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    These "celebs" and pros do not need any more golf clubs... but that is what is generally given out at these events. As having grown up in a golfing family we have garages filled with putters, drivers, bags -- all won at golf tournaments.
    Okay I love FORT's casino, but I really am not very good. If anyone wants to donate their FORT $$ I would gladly accept http://www.fansofrealitytv.com/forum....php?do=donate

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    Quote Originally Posted by MHcarrollton;4119183;
    I do not know if it is because she is single with no children to motivate her, but she seems rather passive.
    It doesn't matter if you are single or not or whether you have kids or don't have kids. Personalities are established in life and it isn't necessary to get married and/or have children to establish such personalities. Take Sean Yazbeck (Season 5 winner) for instance. He's single with no kids and yet he managed to dominate Season 5. Bill Rancic was single back on Season 1 and he still won. Brandy is just passive simply because that's her personality. You don't need a spouse/family to be a winner. It is only a matter of choice.

    Having said that, I can't believe that Liza was dismissed over Brandy. Liza may have had a record of 1-1 as PM, but at least she was PM twice. Brandy was only PM once and has been coasting through since. Brandy is similar to Jen Massey (Season 2) with one difference being that Jen M. had a backbone and Brandy doesn't. This is definitely Clint's to win/lose.

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    Liza going against her PM and choosing cheap gifts insead of a gift card?! What is wrong with this woman? Call your PM and discuss your idea to change the plan.

    Did Trump set Brandy up? Taking away one of her valued staff is interesting. Was he thinking that it would have been wise for Brandy to say she needed her and enter some negotiation with him? I think so.

    Editing. I agree that it looks like Clint is the winner based on the negative "press." Misspelling Liza's name and the critique that he said ya'll too much (preview). This tac has been used on every reality show from the get go. So Clint wins. Brandy will get a job, just you watch. He has a shine for her.

    Trump. What pig. Interesting pig. Entertaining pig. But still a pig. Love this show and love me some pig. Entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabid Dingo;4119568;
    It doesn't matter if you are single or not or whether you have kids or don't have kids. Personalities are established in life and it isn't necessary to get married and/or have children to establish such personalities. Take Sean Yazbeck (Season 5 winner) for instance. He's single with no kids and yet he managed to dominate Season 5. Bill Rancic was single back on Season 1 and he still won. Brandy is just passive simply because that's her personality. You don't need a spouse/family to be a winner. It is only a matter of choice. Having said that, I can't believe that Liza was dismissed over Brandy. Liza may have had a record of 1-1 as PM, but at least she was PM twice. Brandy was only PM once and has been coasting through since. Brandy is similar to Jen Massey (Season 2) with one difference being that Jen M. had a backbone and Brandy doesn't. This is definitely Clint's to win/lose.
    Brandy looks bored. Clint seems driven and fearlessly volunteered to be PM. Most contestants avoid being PM or timidly volunteer. Liza won the task, but Trump didn't want to fire his favorite, Brandy. I think even if Brandy wins the final task, Trump will declare that Clint is the new apprentice. I think Trump knows that Clint would be a better apprentice than Brandy. But, since Brandy is Trump's favorite, I think Brandy will get a position in the Trump organization.

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    Re: 12/2 show discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by shoepie;4119657;
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    Did Trump set Brandy up? Taking away one of her valued staff is interesting. Was he thinking that it would have been wise for Brandy to say she needed her and enter some negotiation with him? I think so.

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    I wondered about that too. I told my husband that Brandy probably should have said, "Mr. Trump, you're my boss and you told me my mission is to give tournament attendees a flawless experience. If I lose 25% of my team, the rest of us will do our best to compensate for that loss, but it risks negatively impacting guests' experiences. It's your call."

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    You could tell Brandy wasn't too thrilled to get the golf tournament instead of the dinner because she knows so little about golf. She made a fatal error when Trump gave her the option of picking her team first or picking the task first. She chose the team she wanted because she said she wanted to make sure she didn't get Mahsa. If she had stopped and given it another 2 seconds of thought she would have realized there was no way in heck that Clint wouldn't chose Steuart's team no matter who was on it. If Brandy had said she wanted to pick the task, she could have chosen the dinner and then Clint would have had first pick of the team and he would have chosen Steuart's team without doubt and he would have gotten the golf task. Brandy didn't reason that one out before she spoke.

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    Brandy is a doormat. She's been passive all season, and she didn't even stand up to Trump when he asked to golf with the Kenyan girl. Hey, speaking of her, did you notice how they edited the shots of her golfing and then Trump getting a little too up close and personal with her? Trump has a thing for female golfers.

    The most interesting finale would have been Alpha Female v. Alpha Male (Stephanie v. Clint). They are both miniature versions of Trump, extremely driven over-achievers. Attorney, CPA, real estate developer...

    I think we might be in for a shock ending. Trump will get cold feet about Clint the Redneck and choose the girl with poise and polish who won't embarrass him.

    Brandy has done well for a girl from Anchorage, Alaska.

    Trump Jr's cheap shot at Anand was bad. His job is to make sure no golfers cheat.

    Kudos to Trump letting contestants redeem themselves.

    Kathy Griffin is a low-budget celebrity who isn't any funnier now than when she was on Seinfeld in 1992, and no less annoying. She scratches the chalkboard trying to be funny.

    She's kind of a "mature" version of Kim Kardashian, who replaced Paris Hilton as the tape ho turned media ho. Trump shouldn't have stooped to her gutter level and put her on his show.

    Hey, did you guys hear Mahsa is gunning for a new job as a TV reporter? Yeah, this from the girl who is an assistant DA. What a waste of a law degree.

    She swears too much. Didn't she think her Mom would watch the show?!

    Thanks to the folks above who posted long reviews of the latest episode. The few remaining viewers here.
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    I still love the show but find it cringe worthy and depressing to watch. Why? Because of seeing people so disrespectful to each other. Seeing Trump diminish values such as being humble and honorable and escalate bullying others or throwing others under the bus to make oneself look better. The endless swearing both by men and women, the women sometimes worse than the men. What is really depressing is to see women elevated at the expense of men, being equal means equal not ascending one gender above the other for revenge of past wrongs real or imagined. I don't really like man hater type women. It's exhausting to be around them. Seeing men made fools of is not comforting as the women laugh and gloat and Trump himself promotes this and also thinks it's funny, why? Because he is enjoying manipulating the women and is entertained by the little pretties. He is secure that he is the only real alpha male and doesn't need other men except to serve him and make him look good. Seeing people put under impossible pressure in a time frame that does not reflect the real world and then tripping them up just for fun, editing it in a way to make it entertaining but not necessarily true reminds me of torturing small animals and then laughing about it just because you are bigger and you can. Making fun of people because they are from the South and not the ~only in your mind superior North. These same people who cram multiculturalism down your throat can't accept that we also have our own culture in our this country, including mannerisms, colloquialisms, accent, values. So cavalier, so hypocritical, so arrogant. But I still like Trump. That's the weird part....
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    Re: 12/2 show discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Maybaybie;4119790;
    You could tell Brandy wasn't too thrilled to get the golf tournament instead of the dinner because she knows so little about golf. She made a fatal error when Trump gave her the option of picking her team first or picking the task first. She chose the team she wanted because she said she wanted to make sure she didn't get Mahsa. If she had stopped and given it another 2 seconds of thought she would have realized there was no way in heck that Clint wouldn't chose Steuart's team no matter who was on it. If Brandy had said she wanted to pick the task, she could have chosen the dinner and then Clint would have had first pick of the team and he would have chosen Steuart's team without doubt and he would have gotten the golf task. Brandy didn't reason that one out before she spoke.
    I didn't think of that, but you're quite right - it was a given that Clint would choose the Steuart's team. (I'm surprised that the show didn't put David on one of the teams.)

    CharmOffensive - I cringed at Don Jr's remark to Anand. Either bring Anand back and give him a chance to redeem himself or forget about him. Don't bring him back and then rub his face in it. It showed a real cruel streak in Don, Jr., IMO. Tobi, I totally agree with you about the hypocrisy of making fun of Southern accents, etc. - well stated. I also agree about his elevating women like Brandi - Trump would have been all over a man for only having stepped up as PM once.

    Tobi, I find the show entertaining, but I no longer like Trump. I have to watch the show with the mindset that Trump does not always get rid of the weakest contestant and that whomever he wants to win, will - no matter how they do on the tasks. Trump is so very inconsistent in his reasons for firing people. You can get fired for not standing up for yourself in the boardroom, or for coming on too strong. You can get fired for taking risks or for not taking risks. In the Annie Duke - Joan Rivers showdown (and I didn't like either of them), many people thought Joan Rivers winning was a given as Trump had kept her on when there were reasons for firing her earlier. Up until that finale, the ultimate decider had been who raised the most money. Annie raised the most money, but Trump can come up with any reason to throw the decision the other way. That's fine, it's his show, it's his company, he can do what he wants. I just no longer get invested in the outcome, because I know that his decision won't necessarily be about who deserves to be fired, but about who he likes best or who should stick around longer because they create drama on the show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BerryCrazy;4119139;
    Don Trump seems to really like Liza, even though he fired her. He admits he's always defending her and says the person she gets along with the most is him. Then, he picks her to play golf with him. And didn't he say America loves her? Interesting...
    He's talking out of his @ss. Since this is taped months in advance, he's got no way to know who America loves.

    In fact, I'd say there's a better chance "America" (well, the tiny portion who watch this show) loathes her. Massive incompetence and passive-aggressiveness don't go over well with most folks.

    Quote Originally Posted by CharmOffensive;4119791;
    Kudos to Trump letting contestants redeem themselves.
    Except I'm not sure they deserved it. These aren't folks who made bad strategic decisions or something--these are people who did immoral things.

    Hey, did you guys hear Mahsa is gunning for a new job as a TV reporter? Yeah, this from the girl who is an assistant DA. What a waste of a law degree.
    Reporter? I think she's far likelier to get a job on another reality show. One of the scummier ones.
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