1/24 Show Discussion **spoilers**

[dagwood]

I loved it when O attacked Piers for being a 'clown' and dressing like King Arthur and Vinny shut her down. It was classic. It was a bitchy comment and she needed to be put in her place.

[Brooks]

IMO Omarosa is the reason the women have gone 0 for 4. Carol was absolutely right that it is the divisiveness of Omarosa who has kept the women from working like a team.

Trump is responsive to the idea that someone is not a team player. It would be a valid reason to bring her to the boardroom, and at least Trump would be on record hearing it from the group even if he wasn't ready to toss the turnip yet.

I thought Jennie was working her butt off, but forced into more mundane tasks. And afterall, the ladies are missing a few people now, so that also gave the guys an edge. I don't recall that was mentioned as a reason they lost. They produced more per person than Hydra did.

[Tribal Speak]

I'll still watch, but I'm suddenly much less interested with Jennie gone. Kudos to her for not being dragged into the muck when prompted to do so by The Donald. She leaves with integrity intact.

[tango7]

I loved it when O attacked Piers for being a 'clown' and dressing like King Arthur and Vinny shut her down. It was classic. It was a bitchy comment and she needed to be put in her place.

Yesh, I loved it too. O is known for (among other things) making snarky, bitchy jabs at people trying to push their buttons then feigning innocence. That "clown" brought in $10k.

[dagwood]

Yesh, I loved it too. O is known for (among other things) making snarky, bitchy jabs at people trying to push their buttons then feigning innocence. That "clown" brought in $10k.

Plus she ended up looking like an ass. The innocence act didn't work last night.

[AJane]

I don't like O but she's in no way responsible for Empresario's poor record. The women, particularly Marilu, did a fabulous job on the Broadway tickets task. O's aggressiveness during the choosing of the shows may have left a bad taste in the mouth, but I think the women need someone like her to do that kind of dirty work.

Anyway, they didn't lose because of poor salesmanship, they lost only because Nely's friends didn't make it back in time with the cheque. (I also am at a loss as to why they needed a cashier's cheque.) The tickets were sold, the money just hadn't exchanged hands. Too bad they had to lose because of a technicality, but I don't really think Jennie is that big of a loss. I hate to say it, but I think O is far more valuable to the team than Jennie ever could be.

[Brooks]

Remember the pissiness in Hydra's war room when Vincent wanted someone to read "The Rules"? We never heard them. I wonder if The Rules had something to do with needing a cashier's check from that contributor.

[Uncle David]

I don't like O but she's in no way responsible for Empresario's poor record.

You have every right to your 'opinion', but, IMO, Omarosa is directly responsible for the first of the women's four losses. More importantly, I feel her actions in the first challenge set the stage for the subsequent losses.

When Omarosa not only discarded Tiffany's suggestion that the women use their celebrity but also denigrated her for even suggesting it, she started the ball rolling. After that, the women with lesser leadership skills fell silent and dropped into the background. As Carol said in the boardroom, rather than raising the lesser players up by focusing on and utilizing their strong points the lesser players were cowered and ended up contributing nothing to the team.

I think Carol pointed out that there are three 'leaders' and then the rest. Well, a true leader doesn't discount the possible contributions that can be made by the other team members. A true leader brings the group together as a team. Again, I think it was Carol who believed that the women had not yet won a challenge because they didn't act as a team. I share that opinion.

[cntmfan]

Her big piece of dumbassery though is her continuing targeting of Carol when she's already seen that Trump isn't likely to fire Carol anytime soon. The flip side of Oma's perseverance is that sometimes she doesn't give up when she SHOULD.

She didn't lose either of the last two tasks for the PMs, but still... I'm not sure how much she's added other than drama (and ratings).

She's likely going next if they lose again, I think it's very obvious that he was ready to fire either one of those two good for nothing girls.

Omarosa is on here for drama, which if you haven't noticed in the past nearly 8 years of reality tv, that's what makes the shows go around.

[buglover]

Sounds like it was a pretty good episode. I missed it because I watch watching Celebrity Rehab. I am going to go see if they have it up online.