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    I said what I did about the prize that Amy's team offered because I'm casting around for some explanation as to why they shot so low. The whole team failed to run with any other ideas or try to beef up their prize at all to make it more appealing . . .I was just conjecturing that there may have been constraints on them that the audience knew nothing about. It sure doesn't seem like Amy, who usually shoots so high, successfully so, with her ideas to settle for such a lame offering. I wondered if her hands were tied in some way and we just weren't shown . . .

    We didn't even see them visiting any other car dealerships. I'm thinking the time constraints were such that it really made it impossible to broker a better giveaway elsewhere--had they had more time, they might have been successful in finding someone to give them a car, but the teams had like, what? half a day to formulate an idea? If they actually had $2000 to offer in prize value, then Versacorp certainly should have used it all. Why they didn't is a mystery. Wasn't Protege even giving away bottled water to the people standing in their line? Amy dropped the ball 'UUUGE' as DT would say.

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    I just finished reading the Apprentice article in the current issue of People magazine, where someone stated that none of the contestants (except perhaps Kwame) got more than 3 hours' sleep a night. To us, the viewing public, it looks at times like they have a day off in between their tasks, but I think in actuality, they were going straight from one task to the next. Not surprising then, that they were exhausted enough to sleep on the bus.

    I have a feeling that Amy may be the 'star candidate' that falls from grace, as alluded to for this week's episode. I can't think of anyone else who has been an unqualified 'star' to date.

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    Maybe one reason Kwame got some decent sleep time was he didn't choose to go out "dirty dancing" at a nightclub, LOL! Although admittedly, just working on tasks, and then staying cooped up in that suite could get to be draining and boring,

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    Quote Originally Posted by justvisiting
    In the task dossier on the NBC site it clearly states that each team was given $2,000 seed money AND the services of a carpenter.
    It would also have helped if they'd have actually come up with a game of skill or chance that was, well, more interesting than "enter our raffle because we're cute".... At least the other team had a wheel going that let you actively do something at the booth, leading up to the $1K at the end of the day. There was nothing fun to do for swiping your card near the car.

    Although really, I think NEITHER team capitalized on the game of skill or chance idea. I think something that would have encouraged people to gamble would have been much better (enter and you get a button which you wear on the casino floor and if our secret prize patrol sees you gambling, you get an award; if you hit a slot jackpot while playing our game you get an extra $100; find and play at each of our "prize stations", etc). Signing up for a drawing was pretty lame on both counts.

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    Originally quoted by jsciv
    Although really, I think NEITHER team capitalized on the game of skill or chance idea. I think something that would have encouraged people to gamble would have been much better (enter and you get a button which you wear on the casino floor and if our secret prize patrol sees you gambling, you get an award; if you hit a slot jackpot while playing our game you get an extra $100; find and play at each of our "prize stations", etc). Signing up for a drawing was pretty lame on both counts.
    I wholeheartedly agree, Joe. I thought the purpose was to come up with a game that would increase gambling revenue. My interpretation of that is that they were to find a way to attract new (and hopefully high-rolling) gamblers to the casino or a way to get the existing gamblers to spend even more. I didn't really see either team doing this, unless they did some outside advertising on their promotions that we never saw. It looked to me like they were simply "tagging" and tracking the spending of the gamblers who were already inside the casino. And, even at this, Versacorp failed in getting the existing gamblers to spend more by not requiring their drawing winner to be present at the drawing! At least Protege's gamblers hung around (and hopefully continued to gamble) until time for the drawing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omarosa
    .... I would never say that the reason they lost was because of their nap.

    It was because they failed to secure the high rollers. If they had that, they would have won. They had the volume, they did not have the gamblers.
    I agree! The problem wasn't the nap per se, it was the TIMING of the nap. Locking up proprietary rights by being the first mover. Bill was the first to ask for proprietary access to the VIPs and therefore he got it. Later on, when Katrina/Amy saw they missed an opportunity with the VIPs and tried sending the "models" to poach VIPs, the other team could sucessfully tell them to go away since they had locked up the proprietary rights.

    That is what biz is all about - locking up a proprietary advantage over the competition! Whether it is a proprietary vendor deal (distributors for trump ice), location (lemonade stand), proprietary advertising rights (rickshaw), etc., something the compeition can't match because you called first and got the rights.

    Hmmm... That old adage "you snooze you loose" comes to mind here.

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    Secret Prize Patrol would have been a good idea. They could have used the "models" for that and avoided clashing with Bill and Troy.

    For the life of me, thought, I can't fathom what Katrina's belly-dancer idea was all about.

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    Not only was the car rental a crappy prize compared to the thousand bucks give-away, at least the thousand dollar prize had the chance of making it back into the casino's pockets, as well as bump up the final total for that team by a thousand dollars, because the cash was given away before the deadline. Plenty of time for that winner to drop the money at one of the tables, as well as keep the gambler in the building and generate more revenue from them. The car rental would have taken the gambler out of the casino for the weekend, and no money would be generated from that winner. The D was right about it being a stupid idea.

    As a side note, I wonder what happened to the seed money given to Amy's team? The car rental was a freebie, their stage area was probably built by the carpenter, so what happened to the rest of the money? Did those models/showgirls cost two grand? I bet someone lost the seed money at the blackjack table.

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    Amy couldn't remember who came up with the car rental idea (hey Amy here is a hint - Amy!). And she said she has been PM four times. Amy has serious memory problems. She should get fired

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    Quote Originally Posted by TivoFan
    Amy couldn't remember who came up with the car rental idea (hey Amy here is a hint - Amy!). And she said she has been PM four times. Amy has serious memory problems. She should get fired
    Amy did NOT say she had been PM 4 times. She said she had lead a team to success 4 times and that she had been switched back and forth (chosen to come to the opposing team) several times. That happens to be true, which is one reason she remains in the competition.

    And it's debatable as to who actually came up with the car idea, and why (if it was Amy) Katrina didn't jump right in and dispute it. So it would also seem that Katrina's memory wasn't working all that well.
    Last edited by justvisiting; 03-31-2004 at 11:57 AM.

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    Well when I wathed the show for the second time it was clear that the idea came from Amy and both of them were well aware of it. How could someone forget such thing?

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