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    After rewinding, I noticed that Katrina did mention a car first (after mentioning a boat, and dancing girls, etc) and Amy mentioned car rental afterwards. So maybe she thought the idea was half hers and half Katrina's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by getreal
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    But maybe that's why Tiger kept his mouh shut, heh, heh!

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    I am really surprised that Amy and Katrina though of the car rental instead of say a "night" with one of the show girls they hired to steal customers, or maybe a "night" with Amy or Katrina. That would have been within their character and their creative ability.

    They can shake their asses to sell lemondaide, drinks at the Planet Hollywood and discounts on gold coins; but they hired other T&A to steal customers. When did Amy and Katrina promote themselves to madams?

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    Originally quoted by Polymer
    After rewinding, I noticed that Katrina did mention a car first (after mentioning a boat, and dancing girls, etc) and Amy mentioned car rental afterwards. So maybe she thought the idea was half hers and half Katrina's.
    Katrina's initial idea was to give away a car -- Amy obviously thought that was beyond their capabilities and decided on a car rental instead. However, I don't think Amy sincerely believed that the idea was half Katrina's -- Amy knew full well that she herself was responsible for a bad idea, but tried to act like she couldn't really remember whose idea it was in a desperate attempt to make herself look better. Funny, Amy's credit-taking is awfully selective -- a few minutes later she was proudly proclaiming how she had led her team to victory four times, despite the fact that this was only her second turn as PM.


    Originally quoted by Citizen Kaos
    Exactly! It was Amy's idea, so why didn't Katrina defend herself? Why did she say it was her idea when it was really Amy's? What, did she want to be fired?
    Katrina didn't say the car rental was her idea -- she said she came up with the idea to give away a car. When Trump asked whose idea it was to give away a rental, Katrina repeatedly shot her eyes at Amy. If she ever vocalized that it was Amy's idea, it was never shown to us. However, we need to remember this is all highly edited -- it's entirely possible that Katrina did call Amy out on it to Trump when Amy tried to play dumb, but it was possibly edited out for drama (maybe to make it appear to the viewers that Amy got away with something).

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    When Donald was lambasting Amy's team for the 'stupid' idea, he probably conveniently forgot to mention that there was no way they could have persuaded anyone to donate an 'actual' car for the prize. If giving away a car had been a possibility, sure thing both teams would have jumped all over that.

    There was probably a $1000 cap on the prize. I knew from the reception Amy and Katrina got from the car guy that he wouldn't go any higher than he did. Given that the other team gave away $1000, I'm very surprised that Amy wouldn't have wanted to offer a prize of equal value . . .say combine the car rental with an evening of dinner & guided tour of Atlantic City. Or a comp suite with dinner & champagne in the room,. followed by free tickets to the kid's tiger & magic show.

    In the world of high rollers, $300 is nothing--they spend that on booze in one day. Even $1000 wouldn't make a high-roller bat an eye--that's one spin of the roulette wheel to them. The puny amount of these 'prizes' makes me think something's fishy in Jersey. I think that each team was given a different value cap for their promotion by the show's producers, and that Amy's was deliberately set low to guarantee a win for Protege. Why? Because Amy has never lost and it was time to bring her down. I can think of no other explanation for why she would've settled for such a cheap & non-appealing prize.



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    [QUOTE=hikari]
    There was probably a $1000 cap on the prize. I knew from the reception Amy and Katrina got from the car guy that he wouldn't go any higher than he did. Given that the other team gave away $1000, I'm very surprised that Amy wouldn't have wanted to offer a prize of equal value . . .say combine the car rental with an evening of dinner & guided tour of Atlantic City. Or a comp suite with dinner & champagne in the room,. followed by free tickets to the kid's tiger & magic show.

    In the world of high rollers, $300 is nothing--they spend that on booze in one day. Even $1000 wouldn't make a high-roller bat an eye--that's one spin of the roulette wheel to them. The puny amount of these 'prizes' makes me think something's fishy in Jersey. I think that each team was given a different value cap for their promotion by the show's producers, and that Amy's was deliberately set low to guarantee a win for Protege. Why? Because Amy has never lost and it was time to bring her down. I can think of no other explanation for why she would've settled for such a cheap & non-appealing prize.





    Amy and her teammates didn't think of that because they were too busy resting on the bus ride down. If they would have put some thought and planning into it like the other team did, they might have been able to pull off another win
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    I don't believe for a second that Versacorp's prize cap was set lower because they wanted to set Amy up to lose. Come ON.

    In the task dossier on the NBC site it clearly states that each team was given $2,000 seed money AND the services of a carpenter.

    The blunder was bringing the car to the casino and showing it. Anyone would assume that the car itself was the prize, not a weekend rental.

    We don't know how long they were sleeping, and as far as we know maybe Protege' also took a nap. I don't the napping as a factor at all, and I don;t understand why such a big deal was made of this. It would seem that the best time to plan would be after arrivng at the casino and taking the tour with Mark Brown - not on a "bus" before even setting foot in the Taj Mahal.
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    I agree with combatcutie and justvisiting that Amy and her team are the ones to blame for their loss. I think it's ridiculous to suggest that Amy's team was "set-up" to lose. They lost because of poor planning, lack of creativity and failure to use available resources.

    However, I do believe that the bus ride nap was indeed a contributing factor to Versacorp's loss. No, we don't know for certain if Versacorp slept the entire trip, but we were shown Troy commenting to that effect in a confessional, so it seems pretty likely that they did sleep for most of the time. (And yes, it's also possible that Protege slept for part of the trip. I tend to doubt that, based on what they achieved and based on Troy's shock that the other team was basically "sleeping through a job interview." But, even if Protege had, it certainly looks like they had their priorities straight, and put business first.)

    Even if the trip was only 93 miles, that's a couple of hours of free planning time and Kwame's team appeared to have taken full advantage of it. They used the time to brainstorm ideas, work out a plan of attack, and make phone calls to arrange contacts and appointments. (At one point, all three team members were shown to be on the phone. This was an excellent time to arrange that "exclusive" contract to work the VIP check-in!) It's not necessary to wait and see the actual casino before starting on a strategy. Most casinos have VIP areas for the high-rollers, costumed employees, a show of some kind, etc. You should at least try to plan strategy in advance -- you work out the logistics and make any needed modifications once you've scoped out the location. Besides, who's to say none of the team members had never been to the Taj Mahal, anyway? I know Troy said he'd never been there, but Kwame's from New York (I'm uncertain as to where Bill lives currently).

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    Oh, come on. Driving at 60 miles per hour, it would take them an hour and a half to get down there. Heidi previously commented on how physically draining the challenges were. Big 'fricking deal if they slept for 90 MINUTES, it allowed them to energize and think clearly. A lot of people don't function well on little energy. I would never say that the reason they lost was because of their nap.

    It was because they failed to secure the high rollers. If they had that, they would have won. They had the volume, they did not have the gamblers.

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    Just to clarify, I didn't say Versacorp lost because they took a nap. I said that I believed that the bus ride nap was a contributing factor to Versacorp's loss. I said they lost because of poor planning, lack of creativity and failure to use available resources. My personal opinion is that the 1-1/2 to 2 hours would have been better spent brainstorming and planning, not napping.


    Originally quoted by Omarosa
    Heidi previously commented on how physically draining the challenges were.
    Which is precisely why I would think they would try to get sufficient sleep the night before. Presumably, they don't know in advance what the task will be and, therefore, would not have known that they would have a 93-mile bus ride for catching up on their zzzzz's.


    Originally quoted by Omarosa
    Big 'fricking deal if they slept for 90 MINUTES, it allowed them to energize and think clearly. A lot of people don't function well on little energy.
    I agree, alot of people don't function well on little energy. But, is there some reason that Amy, Nick and Katrina failed to get any sleep the previous night? Kwame, Troy and Bill seemed rested enough to do some preliminary work after they were assigned their task. I guess it's a good thing Amy, Nick and Katrina were able to take that little catnap -- I'd hate to imagine how much more poorly they would have functioned on little or no energy!
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