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Old 02-04-2008, 10:12 PM   #131
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Is it just me or does anybody else want Piers and Stephen out more than Omarosa or Nely, right now?
That's a tough one. Those are 4 really crappy pseudo-celebs there.

At this point? I gotta restrict my appreciation to Carol, Trace and maybe a bit to Lennox and Marilu.
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Hmmm -- I want to see Nely out next. She annoys me more than any of the others.
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Old 02-05-2008, 01:33 AM   #133
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I would keep Piers and Stephen over Omarossa and Nely...
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Old 02-05-2008, 12:05 PM   #134
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I would keep Piers and Stephen over Omarossa and Nely...
Touché! Piers is flat-out entertaining. Stephen is funny to watch as well because -- intentionally or not -- he's such a Trump-clone as regards his intonation patterns, mouth positioning while speaking, and gesturing mannerisms. Omarosa is a fashion-challenged pain-in-the-ass, but it's funny to see how the others on her team give in, time and time again, to her manipulative behavior. But Nely is just plain annoying with no redeeming qualities: off with her head!
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Old 02-05-2008, 11:58 PM   #135
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Re: 1/31 Show Discussion **spoilers**

It was Trace who first said that 'I just heard 'em talkin' out there. Then Vinnie went to the door to see who was outside. Cut to the camera showing one of the women entering their room. Vinnie then turns back to the room and points to the girl's room to let the boys know it was the girls who were outside the door. Piers didn't make it up out of whole cloth.

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I noticed the same thing, and yes, he was the one who suggested that Carol be the spokesperson. He made some good suggestions, and I think that Vinnie deserved better than he got from the women.
Carol Alt had suggested Miss USA walking a croc on a leash for their campaign. It was Vinnie who pointed out they were again not using their celebrity status, and suggested Carol be the face of the campaign, on the box, on the dispenser, 'go with a full campaign and you'll win one tomorrow'. Also, we saw video of Vinnie talking constantly with the women with a body language clearly suggesting he was offering advice and ideas. Perhaps for the 'full campaign' he had suggested.

Of the two pivotal marketing points, (the Croc box, and using Carol's celebrity, particularly a poster of Carol dropping the Croc into the bin) it was Vinnie who came up with one and Omarosa who came up with the other. I find it unfortunate the women, in what I imagine was their zeal to claim a women only victory, denied all of the good things Vinnie gave to them.
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I agree.
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I thought the most pivotable decision was the giant shoe. If that had been Vinnie's suggestion, I sure Trump would have known that and would have brought it up at the boardroom meeting. At least if it served his agenda. I think he wanted to even up the two teams so we didn't see it enter the discussion (could have been edited out).
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I think you are right Brooks... Trump is briefed on everything that goes on ...
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