1/17 Show Discussion **spoilers** - Page 5

ClosetRTWatcher · 01-18-2008, 12:44 AM

Color me surprised. I did not think Trump would be willing to fire Gene OR Omarosa, given that they account for nearly all of the drama on the show. I don't care for Gene, but he made the show at least a tad interesting. I have only been watching half-heartedly, I'm not sure I'll bother watching at all now. I have to agree that Gene must have wanted out - he made it nearly impossible for Trump to fire anyone but him.

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Bonbonlover · 01-18-2008, 12:52 AM

I haven't seen the show yet, but even if Gene's performance dipped tonight, I think he clearly was the one who brought in the monies for the charities in the last two tasks... especially the 1st which was an Apprentice "all time high moneymaker"

ladybug · 01-18-2008, 02:06 AM

Geez, Gene Simmons is annoying.

I'm a bit surprised that Donald Trump didn't just fire Nely on the spot, or even Gene for that matter. I think he has done that on occasion in the past, right?

Though I definitely think it was Gene's fault the women's team lost. Aside from the presentation (which was better than the guys) - they did not grasp the client's (Kodak) vision for the ad. And that was Gene's fault from the get-go, because 1) he didn't bother going to the meeting or let the other women go and 2) he was so intent on the *Kodak world* theme that he didn't care a bit for what Kodak was trying to sell.

And honestly, even if he did go to the meeting, he probably wouldn't have agreed with their vision and would have just gone ahead with his plan.

So yeah, he was totally responsible...

Stump · 01-18-2008, 03:19 AM

The show was horrible but I have to admit I was laughing through most of it. This is the problem with having celebrities. They don't have the drive to really WANT to win. It was too easy for Gene to recognize that he screwed up, wasn't having fun, and wanted out. He has to protect his reputation far more than stay another week on the show.

MsDiva2007 · 01-18-2008, 03:52 AM

I Guess Gene felt he got his money for his charity and now he's outta here!lol. I loved the look on Omarosa's face at his "benevolent dictator" comment. I love Gene he will be missed.

Tinkerbell1130 · 01-18-2008, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MsDiva2007

I love Gene he will be missed.

Ditto.....there was no other choice to be made but if this now becomes the Omarosa show....see ya.....

Justafan1 · 01-18-2008, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Stump

The show was horrible but I have to admit I was laughing through most of it. This is the problem with having celebrities. They don't have the drive to really WANT to win. It was too easy for Gene to recognize that he screwed up, wasn't having fun, and wanted out. He has to protect his reputation far more than stay another week on the show.

BINGO!

bee stung lips · 01-18-2008, 08:47 AM

So, not even Gene Simmons could bring in a win for the horrific women's team...wow

Brooks · 01-18-2008, 09:17 AM

For all the comments about Gene demonstrating such lust for Ivanka, did anyone notice the length of time the cameras focused on Ivanka's legs, like when she got out of the limo? I think maybe Daddy doesn't care that his daughter is treated like a "skirt".

The scenes where Gene was describing his brilliance, against the backdrop of incredulence faces by folks like MadMoney, were hysterical. Possibly also editing, but well done.

I mostly agree with the opinion that Gene just wanted out. He raised $20K for Mark Burnett's favorite charity, and wasn't likely to win any more. I'm more disturbed that O wasn't edited as a complete turnip this episode. I thought Gene would be the one to take her down, but he wasn't her match. Now I have to hope one of the other guys is up to it.

Did you see O comforting Nely at the beginning of the show when she came up from the boardroom in tears? Fits in with their current chumminess, although I still think O is just a user. Perhaps Nely can't see through that.

This season is like a caricature of previous seasons. Not to be taken seriously at all.

dagwood · 01-18-2008, 10:17 AM

Although it was a boneheaded move not to take Nely into the boardroom, I like that Gene stands behind his ideas. There is a time that you have to admit you screwed up. It was his fault that they lost and he stood by it. Saying he knows more than the clients is very egotistical, but did we expect any less from him? He could have saved his bacon by bringing Nely and he knew it.

01-18-2008, 12:44 AM	#41
ClosetRTWatcher Pineapple! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Changing my name to Pistol Tanker Posts: 2,526	Re: 1/17 Show Discussion spoilers Color me surprised. I did not think Trump would be willing to fire Gene OR Omarosa, given that they account for nearly all of the drama on the show. I don't care for Gene, but he made the show at least a tad interesting. I have only been watching half-heartedly, I'm not sure I'll bother watching at all now. I have to agree that Gene must have wanted out - he made it nearly impossible for Trump to fire anyone but him.

01-18-2008, 12:52 AM	#42
Bonbonlover FORT Fogey Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,097	Re: 1/17 Show Discussion spoilers I haven't seen the show yet, but even if Gene's performance dipped tonight, I think he clearly was the one who brought in the monies for the charities in the last two tasks... especially the 1st which was an Apprentice "all time high moneymaker" __________________ Okay I love FORT's casino, but I really am not very good. If anyone wants to donate their FORT $$ I would gladly accept http://www.fansofrealitytv.com/forum....php?do=donate

01-18-2008, 02:06 AM	#43
ladybug FORT Regular Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 78	Re: 1/17 Show Discussion spoilers Geez, Gene Simmons is annoying. I'm a bit surprised that Donald Trump didn't just fire Nely on the spot, or even Gene for that matter. I think he has done that on occasion in the past, right? Though I definitely think it was Gene's fault the women's team lost. Aside from the presentation (which was better than the guys) - they did not grasp the client's (Kodak) vision for the ad. And that was Gene's fault from the get-go, because 1) he didn't bother going to the meeting or let the other women go and 2) he was so intent on the Kodak world theme that he didn't care a bit for what Kodak was trying to sell. And honestly, even if he did go to the meeting, he probably wouldn't have agreed with their vision and would have just gone ahead with his plan. So yeah, he was totally responsible...

01-18-2008, 03:19 AM	#44
Stump FORT Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 558	Re: 1/17 Show Discussion spoilers The show was horrible but I have to admit I was laughing through most of it. This is the problem with having celebrities. They don't have the drive to really WANT to win. It was too easy for Gene to recognize that he screwed up, wasn't having fun, and wanted out. He has to protect his reputation far more than stay another week on the show.

01-18-2008, 03:52 AM	#45
MsDiva2007 FORT Fogey Join Date: May 2007 Location: Del Mar, California Age: 47 Posts: 2,086	Re: 1/17 Show Discussion spoilers I Guess Gene felt he got his money for his charity and now he's outta here!lol. I loved the look on Omarosa's face at his "benevolent dictator" comment. I love Gene he will be missed.

01-18-2008, 08:47 AM	#48
bee stung lips SaTC Movie 2010! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia Age: 39 Posts: 686	Re: 1/17 Show Discussion spoilers So, not even Gene Simmons could bring in a win for the horrific women's team...wow __________________ *Bad spellers of the world, untie!*

01-18-2008, 09:17 AM	#49
Brooks Red Sox Nation Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,857	Re: 1/17 Show Discussion spoilers For all the comments about Gene demonstrating such lust for Ivanka, did anyone notice the length of time the cameras focused on Ivanka's legs, like when she got out of the limo? I think maybe Daddy doesn't care that his daughter is treated like a "skirt". The scenes where Gene was describing his brilliance, against the backdrop of incredulence faces by folks like MadMoney, were hysterical. Possibly also editing, but well done. I mostly agree with the opinion that Gene just wanted out. He raised $20K for Mark Burnett's favorite charity, and wasn't likely to win any more. I'm more disturbed that O wasn't edited as a complete turnip this episode. I thought Gene would be the one to take her down, but he wasn't her match. Now I have to hope one of the other guys is up to it. Did you see O comforting Nely at the beginning of the show when she came up from the boardroom in tears? Fits in with their current chumminess, although I still think O is just a user. Perhaps Nely can't see through that. This season is like a caricature of previous seasons. Not to be taken seriously at all.

01-18-2008, 10:17 AM	#50
dagwood Happy Thanksgiving! Join Date: Feb 2003 Age: 38 Posts: 16,646	Re: 1/17 Show Discussion spoilers Although it was a boneheaded move not to take Nely into the boardroom, I like that Gene stands behind his ideas. There is a time that you have to admit you screwed up. It was his fault that they lost and he stood by it. Saying he knows more than the clients is very egotistical, but did we expect any less from him? He could have saved his bacon by bringing Nely and he knew it. __________________ He who laughs last thinks slowest