1/10 Show Discussion **spoilers** - Page 6

Bearcata · 01-11-2008, 10:32 AM

Tonight's episode was a prime example of doing everything right, by the book and still loosing. Poor ladies. It was also very obvious that Nadia was getting the loser's edit from the beginning. You didn't even know she was there ep 1 and all of a sudden we see a lot of her in this episode. She just does not have the personality to lead a team. But this is the very first time I have ever seen Dumptruck, gush and be genuinely nice to someone as he fired Nadia.

Still while Hydra won, the way Gene Simmons and Stephen Baldwin worked as director and project manager will cause problems later on. You cannot dismiss the entire team they way they did on every task. They got away with it for this specific task, but you can not be as abrasive as Gene Simmons and be successfull all the time. Still he uses his celebrity to be rude. Wonder when it will bite him.

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bee stung lips · 01-11-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bbnbama

Well, once again, I am in the minority....I still love and adore Gene

....though I didn't like the fact that him and Stephen blocked out their team while getting the ad together.

Ditto.

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I must have a thing for smartass guys...Gene, Piers, Simon Cowell, Dick Donato

Ditto. I've always been attracted to the smartass, sarcastic type.

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Trace's voice.......

Mmmm Mmmmm Mmmm....

Ditto.

Brooks · 01-11-2008, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcata

the way Gene Simmons and Stephen Baldwin worked as director and project manager will cause problems later on. You cannot dismiss the entire team they way they did on every task. They got away with it for this specific task, but you can not be as abrasive as Gene Simmons and be successfull all the time.

As of this task the PM knows that if s/he wins there will be a contribution to his/her charity. I doubt there will be many, if any, repeat PMs because of what is at stake - the other participants wouldn't stand for it because it is potentially money out of their charity's pocket. So, I expect scrambling to be PM and more control by the PMs than we are used to. O stupidly grabbed PM the first task, before she knew the rules, and the turnip lost. I hope she is never allowed to be PM again.

dagwood · 01-11-2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcata

Still while Hydra won, the way Gene Simmons and Stephen Baldwin worked as director and project manager will cause problems later on. You cannot dismiss the entire team they way they did on every task. They got away with it for this specific task, but you can not be as abrasive as Gene Simmons and be successfull all the time. Still he uses his celebrity to be rude. Wonder when it will bite him.

I don't have a problem with the two of them doing the editing alone, they were on a short deadline and the distraction of everyone in the room would have hurt them. They should have let the guys see the commercial before the presentation, though.

They also should have met with the client. I hope that they don't do it this way again reasoning that not meeting with the client worked once.

Uncle David · 01-11-2008, 11:47 AM

Directing and editing are not team sports. However, normally the group would have been brought to view and offer their criticisms after the rough cut was complete. Obviously there was no time for that luxury. Stephen has shown some ability to be diplomatic so far so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming they edited him to be rude for dramatic value. Not that they needed any. Simmons was enough of an ass for all of them.

MsDiva2007 · 01-11-2008, 12:15 PM

I had to agree with Omarosa about the Womans team morning stretch. I used to work for a company in a management position and our Boss did this same silliness in the morning. If your team is worth their salt they don't need all that nonsense to get them reared up. I was always ready to roll every morning to deal with my assigned Projects.

Brooks · 01-11-2008, 12:18 PM

I figured out my dilemma.

I despise O - she is a cheat and a fraud, an overall nasty person, and a legend in her own mind.

I rather admire Simmons - he appears to have great business savvy, a lot to show for it, and fortunately for entertainment purposes, also has very little in the way of interpersonal skills (although perhaps that is an act?).

So, I'm ok that Simmons is an utter pig, LOL. Go, Gene, Go!!

As far as O the turnip, I hope she lasts long enough to be REALLY humiliated on her way out.

autumnsessence · 01-11-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Brooks

I despise O - she is a cheat and a fraud, an overall nasty person, and a legend in her own mind.

which is exactly why she is on the show. trump's no dummy.

the one thing i really love about "family jewels" is how his family always makes fun of gene's gigantic ego. his behavior on this show is no surprise to me and part of the reason i watch it. you can say what you want to about gene, but he has been been bringing in the wins so far.

howie · 01-11-2008, 01:43 PM

Is it just me, or are the teams totally mismatched in terms of level of fame? It seems like the women's team is filled with celebrities whose peaks were decades ago (Marilu, Carol, Nadia), or just aren't that recognizable (Nely, Blonde Woman, Playboy Playmate).

Contrast that to the men's team where their peaks were maybe a couple of years ago, or they're perennial stars like Simmons, or they might even appear on TV quite currently outside of Celebrity Apprentice.

I realize that fame isn't everything in the challenges, but lots of them are about marketing, and it seems that the women are at a big disadvantage since they don't have as much convenient star wattage. I would mix up the teams completely.

I wonder if they had trouble finding more famous women. Maybe it's just that the ones who might be good businesswomen had the good sense not to join the cast.

buglover · 01-11-2008, 01:45 PM

I thought the same thing about the fame situation. I also feel like he's firing the least famous and keeping the others for show.

01-11-2008, 10:32 AM	#51
Bearcata what a strong finger Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: the edge of the beltway Posts: 8,054	Re: 1/10 Show Discussion spoilers Tonight's episode was a prime example of doing everything right, by the book and still loosing. Poor ladies. It was also very obvious that Nadia was getting the loser's edit from the beginning. You didn't even know she was there ep 1 and all of a sudden we see a lot of her in this episode. She just does not have the personality to lead a team. But this is the very first time I have ever seen Dumptruck, gush and be genuinely nice to someone as he fired Nadia. Still while Hydra won, the way Gene Simmons and Stephen Baldwin worked as director and project manager will cause problems later on. You cannot dismiss the entire team they way they did on every task. They got away with it for this specific task, but you can not be as abrasive as Gene Simmons and be successfull all the time. Still he uses his celebrity to be rude. Wonder when it will bite him. __________________ "When life gives you lemons, squirt lemon juice in your enemy's eyes."

01-11-2008, 11:47 AM	#55
Uncle David I bwoke by doze! Join Date: May 2005 Location: On the edge Posts: 3,712	Re: 1/10 Show Discussion spoilers Directing and editing are not team sports. However, normally the group would have been brought to view and offer their criticisms after the rough cut was complete. Obviously there was no time for that luxury. Stephen has shown some ability to be diplomatic so far so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming they edited him to be rude for dramatic value. Not that they needed any. Simmons was enough of an ass for all of them.

01-11-2008, 12:15 PM	#56
MsDiva2007 FORT Fogey Join Date: May 2007 Location: Del Mar, California Age: 47 Posts: 2,086	Re: 1/10 Show Discussion spoilers I had to agree with Omarosa about the Womans team morning stretch. I used to work for a company in a management position and our Boss did this same silliness in the morning. If your team is worth their salt they don't need all that nonsense to get them reared up. I was always ready to roll every morning to deal with my assigned Projects.

01-11-2008, 12:18 PM	#57
Brooks Red Sox Nation Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,857	Re: 1/10 Show Discussion spoilers I figured out my dilemma. I despise O - she is a cheat and a fraud, an overall nasty person, and a legend in her own mind. I rather admire Simmons - he appears to have great business savvy, a lot to show for it, and fortunately for entertainment purposes, also has very little in the way of interpersonal skills (although perhaps that is an act?). So, I'm ok that Simmons is an utter pig, LOL. Go, Gene, Go!! As far as O the turnip, I hope she lasts long enough to be REALLY humiliated on her way out.

01-11-2008, 01:43 PM	#59
howie FORT Newbie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 42	Re: 1/10 Show Discussion spoilers Is it just me, or are the teams totally mismatched in terms of level of fame? It seems like the women's team is filled with celebrities whose peaks were decades ago (Marilu, Carol, Nadia), or just aren't that recognizable (Nely, Blonde Woman, Playboy Playmate). Contrast that to the men's team where their peaks were maybe a couple of years ago, or they're perennial stars like Simmons, or they might even appear on TV quite currently outside of Celebrity Apprentice. I realize that fame isn't everything in the challenges, but lots of them are about marketing, and it seems that the women are at a big disadvantage since they don't have as much convenient star wattage. I would mix up the teams completely. I wonder if they had trouble finding more famous women. Maybe it's just that the ones who might be good businesswomen had the good sense not to join the cast.

01-11-2008, 01:45 PM	#60
buglover Searching for inner peace Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: CA Age: 35 Posts: 11,709	Re: 1/10 Show Discussion spoilers I thought the same thing about the fame situation. I also feel like he's firing the least famous and keeping the others for show. __________________ In my own little world.