Rebecca

[sugarlady]

Originally Posted by Maveno

Too bad that the selfish and classless fired Apprentices had to stoop to the level of immaturity when speaking about her.

Sometimes the obvious truth hurts when it is not what people want to hear. I'm sure all these former The Apprentice candidates were not wrong in their perceptions from actually working with Rebecca. They are in a much better situation to judge her and Randal than the TV viewing public.

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[Maveno]

Originally Posted by sugarlady

Sometimes the obvious truth hurts when it is not what people want to hear. I'm sure all these former The Apprentice candidates were not wrong in their perceptions from actually working with Rebecca. They are in a much better situation to judge her and Randal than the TV viewing public.

If I perceive them as being classless and petty in their actions, that's my opinion. Even if someone is correct in regards to someone else's "lack of worthiness" to be the apprentice, it's all null and void when it's done in a manner in which is classless. I'm not about to watch the finale episode and not have an opinion simply because people don't like hearing what it is.
Also, I don't think it should be a prerequisite for message board posters to have "IMHO" in a sig line.

[howie]

Originally Posted by sugarlady

Sometimes the obvious truth hurts when it is not what people want to hear.

A lot of the time it's not what you say, but how you say it. As much as I like Randal, I did feel that he was harsh in the way he stated his case. This is a lot of the reason that Alla is so unpopular. I think tact goes a long way towards maintaining a professional image. His comment "I run businesses, she writes about them" is technically true, but feels like a cheap shot. I think he could have gotten his point across by saying something like "I have over 10 years more experience in running a business than Rebecca. Writing about businesses doesn't give you the skills you need to run a business." To be fair to Randal though, I think it's hard to find the right thing to say when you're under pressure.

[roddy]

Originally Posted by howie

A lot of the time it's not what you say, but how you say it. As much as I like Randal, I did feel that he was harsh in the way he stated his case. This is a lot of the reason that Alla is so unpopular. I think tact goes a long way towards maintaining a professional image. His comment "I run businesses, she writes about them" is technically true, but feels like a cheap shot. I think he could have gotten his point across by saying something like "I have over 10 years more experience in running a business than Rebecca. Writing about businesses doesn't give you the skills you need to run a business." To be fair to Randal though, I think it's hard to find the right thing to say when you're under pressure.

Again as I've indicated numerous times before. You don't understand the situation. You have barely a grasp on what was going on. Randall was desperate. His case was desperate. He was on the verge of losing, yes LOSING! He was one of yet another minority falling victim to "institutionalized" rejection, he was very likely to become another Kwame or countless other minorities in today's highly competitive employment market. Not only does he has to contend with the pressures of a job interview but also contend with the pressure of his own image based on his skin color. In other words, he got the short end (very short) of the stick right from the get-go, everything else being equal. Rebecca didn't need to do much to make herself favorable to Trump. That's the difference. It's as if Randall needed to "Fight" for his reward, whereas Rebecca needed only to ask (well maybe not that easy but certainly less stressful than Randall)

You have to put yourself into his shoes to fully understand the situation.

It's like this and I'll break it down into simplier terms:

Randall's issues,

He is black.

He is a man.

He is under pressure on a job interview.

He is under pressure on a live television job interview.

He is under pressure on a "curve ball" thrown by Trump on an asinine question.

He is under pressure because his competition is a white attractive young lady (ie short end of the stick).

Besides this "I run businesses, she writes about them" isn't really disrespectful let alone insulting..... it gets RIGHT TO THE POINT and from a business cut-throat perspective, it is necessary to show that you have what it takes. Again think in the context of a black man in a cut-throat take-no-prisoners business world.

I hope you at least have an idea by now.

[Kennedy]

Randall's education and his personality were his best qualifications. He would not have gotten as far as he did in this 'interview' if he were merely a puppet of affirmative action. Racism is not behind every misdeed or bad act perpetrated against persons who are black. Thankfully Randall does not appear to wear this particular chip on his shoulder, he is intelligent enough to realize that it would hinder his success greatly.

[roddy]

Originally Posted by GrumpyGills

Randall's education and his personality were his best qualifications. He would not have gotten as far as he did in this 'interview' if he were merely a puppet of affirmative action. Racism is not behind every misdeed or bad act perpetrated against persons who are black. Thankfully Randall does not appear to wear this particular chip on his shoulder, he is intelligent enough to realize that it would hinder his success greatly.

Okay tell me honestly (and I mean honestly) that Randall did not have the short end of the stick when this competition starts relative to Rebecca and others. Remember this is America we're talking about.

[Kennedy]

On the contrary, I strongly feel that Randall came in with an advantage -- his education. I am sensitive to bigotry, I am subjected to it constantly due to my gender. I do not look for it nor do I see it in every action I disagree with. America is an advantaged country with many opportunities for people of every color -- male and female. Two examples I could offer are Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell.

[roddy]

Originally Posted by GrumpyGills

On the contrary, I strongly feel that Randall came in with an advantage -- his education. I am sensitive to bigotry, I am subjected to it constantly due to my gender. I do not look for it nor do I see it in every action I disagree with. America is an advantaged country with many opportunities for people of every color -- male and female. Two examples I could offer are Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell.

Haha... two out what? Hundreds of positions in the government (Bush administration)? That's right only 2.

If that doesn't wake you up about the realities of America I don't know what does.

"Good" example.

[Kennedy]

Originally Posted by roddy

Haha... two out what? Hundreds of positions in the government (Bush administration)? That's right only 2.

If that doesn't wake you up about the realities of America I don't know what does.

"Good" example.

Well, I don't go in circles well, so I'm stepping out of this.

[AJane]

Roddy, if Randal carried as big a chip on his shoulder about his race and his lack of opportunity as your list would seem to suggest, the sheer weight of it would surely have prevented him from achieving his prestigious education and business successes. I think you actually under-value Randal with your list of his *issues*.

Also, please don't assume a woman, white or otherwise, has some kind of advantage in business. Women, regardless of colour, are still valued less and paid less than men in the corporate world. If what you claim is true - that Trump preferred Rebecca because of her looks - you simply underline the sad fact that a woman needs to be attractive to attain an important position.