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    Kudos to all of the kids. Shawn, Heather, Lexie, Lauren ...... they really had it together after the show. I cried like a baby too.

    Frank looked so good. He has a compassionate soul and could offer the world a lot if he keeps that side of him as the dominant side.

    I missed Nick!!! Is he doing well???

    I love Derek and you can tell his parents really love him. I'm glad/impressed his mom joined a support group that will help her better help him (note to Jada's parents!).

    ***I HOPE ALL OF THE KIDS KEEP IT UP!!!!*************

    Isaah...too bad about the choice he made recently. I was kind of surprised though becuase he seems so smart - like he really gets it. I don't understand why he doesn't grasp hold?!?!?!

    Jada....too bad here too. She won't change until her parents start seeing through her.

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    So it looks like all the kids have improved except Jada and Isaiah. Tsk tsk. Well 7 out of 9 ain't bad. All the blame for Jada can be placed on her parents though. They must be the world's biggest suckers.

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    Jexter, Nick is doing well! They talked about him being really close with his twin brother now.

    Through the entire season I knew Jada would go back to her old ways as soon as she got home. And I thought Isaiah and/or Frank might, too.

    I read articles about Jada and Isaiah so I knew before I watched the episode. I think Jada is just going to keep going down the road she's on, but Isaiah will be okay after this trial. He has a good relationship with his mom going, he was doing well before the spray-painting incident, and graffitti isn't that serious compared to crashing a boat into a family on a raft.

    I'm especially glad Nick and Derek are doing so well. They were my favourites from the beginning. (That's probably my maternal instincts, with them being the youngest.)

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    Parents need to attend "parenting camp"...

    I firmly believe that the best way to help these kids to continue excelling when they graduate and return home, is to have the parents attend their own camp while their kids are at brat camp. Maybe not as long as the kids go, but at long as it takes for them to rethink their parenting skills. I am the parent of a Sagewalk graduate, and really believe in their program, but while my son was learning his new tools for a successful life, I was simply reading books on how I needed to change my way of parenting. It simply wasn't enough... Although I won't tale ALL the blame for my son returning to his old ways after graduating, I feel that, had I changed the way things where at home before he left, he would have had a better chance of success. This is just my opinion... I wish all these kids the best of luck!

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    Thanks for sharing that Tiki.. you and you child are in my prayers!

    I think the thing about Jada is yes her parents let her down but so, unfortunatly, did sagewalk. If they did not feel she was ready to graduate they should not have let her go. She now has had the idea that she can manipulate adults reinforced. Now not only can she manipulate her parents but also professionals! I understand these programs are not set up to go on indefinatly and we have no idea what the professionals told the parents before she graduated but what she did was cry and throw a fit when everyone else got to go and so she was allowed to go too. They have done this girl and society a dis-service. I am Canadian and a socialist and believe that what is best for the individual is what is best for society and visa versa. In this instance I am afraid that we will end up "paying" for the mistakes she inevitably be making in her future.

    Although the incident with the boat and Jada is minor (she was driving the boat and crashed because she was looking back at a boy she was towing who was knee boarding) it makes me wonder what a 15 year old girl is doing with a boat, unsupervised. Especailly a girl who has proven to not be trustworthy and had been caught smoking pot twice in the six weeks since graduating! The show said drugs and alcohol were not involved and that is lucky for her but what does this tell her? You can manipulte people, do all the wrong things, make demands for phones, internet, and get all the rewards!

    I believe all the other kids will do well in life and hope that they are encouraged do strive to be better and better in their lives.
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    I was laughing as they told her all the others were graduating and she wasn't and she started her act. if it was me i would have held her for another month in solitude, this little bitch is going to ge a major headache all her life to someone. til that someone gets tired of her and puts her in a woodchipper.

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    Did any of you read the article on the Brat Campers in this week's TV Guide? I got the impression that Jada's parents are worse than we all thought - the article REALLY made it seem like they only put her in Sagewalk to begin with to get her on TV. The dad kept saying stuff about Jada loving to sing and act and dance and it seemed like something she wanted to do, so they let her do it. I don't think they EVER thought Jada had any problems. Unreal. That kid needs a lesson in the real world, if you ask me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pennifer
    Did any of you read the article on the Brat Campers in this week's TV Guide? I got the impression that Jada's parents are worse than we all thought - the article REALLY made it seem like they only put her in Sagewalk to begin with to get her on TV. The dad kept saying stuff about Jada loving to sing and act and dance and it seemed like something she wanted to do, so they let her do it. I don't think they EVER thought Jada had any problems. Unreal. That kid needs a lesson in the real world, if you ask me.
    Ick. I can only imagine what this kid will do in the future. Maybe her parents will wake up when she empties their bank accounts or steals their credit cards ...OR ends up arrested for drug possession. Also, in what universe does a 15-year old dictate to her parents where she goes to school? Those people created a monster.

    I was happy to see that the other kids (aside from Isaiah) are doing well. Hopefully, that will continue. It was so nice to see them smiling and happy by the end of the show - they looked like completely different kids to me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by joeguy
    I was laughing as they told her all the others were graduating and she wasn't and she started her act. if it was me i would have held her for another month in solitude, this little bitch is going to ge a major headache all her life to someone. til that someone gets tired of her and puts her in a woodchipper.
    ROFLMAO!!
    You said it best, joeguy.

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    My husband had a made an observation that all that kids that had changed looked different. Heather, Lauren and Frank being prime examples. There hair makeup and everything. I'm glad that some good can come from this.

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