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    Quote Originally Posted by SueEllenMishke
    I just picked up a book by Erin McCarthy, and I guess I didn't read the blurb on the back closely enough, or I may have been more prepared for what was inside. The book consists of three short stories that are... how can I word this... extremely explicit. So explicit that I actually blush as I'm reading. And, I frequently have to put the book down so that I can shake my head, and/or laugh at the behavior of the characters and their cheesy, dirty, dialogue. I'm on the second story and don't know if I'm going to make it to the third!
    You could just box up the book and send it to me. I love dirty stories!

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    and you could feel free to share the name of this explicit novel ... for book burning purposes.. of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by erin_dye
    You could just box up the book and send it to me. I love dirty stories!
    I already promised (threatened actually) to lend it to Yardgnome, but after she's done, it's yours!

    Oh, and Duxxy, just so you know what to stay away from, the book is called "Bad Boys Online." I'm embarrassed even typing the title!

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    I don't know, sounds wholesome enough to me. Maybe they'll make it into a movie. Sort of like Debbie Does Dallas or Lust in the Dust. We could all go see it and then meet here and critique it.

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    Might I also recommend a marvelous book along the same lines as SueEllen's, it's called I heart Bad Boys! Excellent read if you really like the trashy ones. SueEllen can vouch for this one as well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yardgnome77
    Might I also recommend a marvelous book along the same lines as SueEllen's, it's called I heart Bad Boys! Excellent read if you really like the trashy ones. SueEllen can vouch for this one as well!
    I certainly can. I can also suggest a literary work of art called "Big Guns Out of Uniform," which is worth it just for the cover alone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dberk
    This is too funny. My mom's been trying to get all the stinkin books cluttering up her basement out of there. She sold a lot of them at yard sales and gleefully burned even more (must be her German heritage).

    My son calls my novels, porn. He should know. I'm surprised he doesn't borrow them.

    I forgot to say this before...One of my big requirements in a romance novel is that there be ROMANCE. I've read some where the relationships just depressed me.
    I don't read romance, but as a youngster I read what I considered a male equivalent Mack Bolan's Executioner series. I believe to a degree your son is correct, but probably not the way he would describe it. The worst romance (akin to Mack Bolan type fiction as well as true porn novels) is that they are so formula based that you don't need a person to write them. Just switch names, locations, and mix up the timing for the same themes that show up in every book and viola!, another masterpiece.

    I opened a used bookstore back when, and decided trashy romance had no place on the shelves I'd worked so hard building. It was a bit of a comeuppance and a lesson about attempting to inflict my preferences and bias on my prospective customers when the most asked question I heard after opening the doors was "Where is the romance section?" I swiftly got over at least part of my hoity toity attitude, bringing in romance. Some of the authors I've seen mentioned here I wouldn't put down. There are those writers in any genre that can tell a compelling story, and if you can do that you aren't trashy, IMO.

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    I'm not just a reader, I'm a writer!

    Yep, MalibuPam is a card-carrying member of the Romance Writers of America. I can't tell you how much the RWA hates the terms "trashy" and "bodice ripper."

    Romance is the largest selling genre of all paperback fiction--more than 50% of all genres combined (sci-fi, western, etc) is Romance. There is no need to be embarassed for reading it. Romance readers are in the majority, and even those who say they "never read that trash" will devour a Nora Roberts book on the airplane and never ever realize that was romance too. So, the trash term is a put down to all of us who enjoy reading an love story. Part of the embarassment comes from the covers of the books, the "clinch" covers, as they are called. But guess what? Publishers have extensively market tested their covers and have found that the EXACT same book, packaged with a clinch and a normal scene (a locket, a house on a hill, etc), will sell far more copies in clinch form.

    Now for "bodice ripper", those haven't been written since the early 1980's. There is no bodice ripping allowed anymore. Try it, and it won't get published. I guarantee.

    As for "porn", yes, some romances are quite hot. But in romance, there is always an emotional connecton between the parties. Porn is about body parts, there is no love or developing relationship there. If you want something really hot, try e-publisher Ellora's Cave. They sell what is termed Romatica, a blend of romance and erotica (note--still NOT porn, there is an emotional relationship in it.)

    I've been reading romance myself since I was 13, and writing for the last few years. I now have 3 completed manuscripts (one of which is good, the other two were learning experiences.) I'm working on my 4th now. My good one has been sitting on a desk at Dorchester for 16 months.

    Back in July I went to the RWA National Conference in Dallas. That is so much fun, because hundreds of authors are there, and all of the major publishers host booksignings. That means that you just walk around the tables and they sign and hand you the books. Free. I came home with 50 paperbacks in my suitcase--I had to pay an overweight bag charge at the airport!

    My favorite authors are Robin Schone (VERY HOT historicals, wow!), Christine Feehan (oh those Carpathian men give me chills), and Rachel Gibson (down-homey and fun). I got to meet Christine in Dallas, that was cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalibuPam
    Now for "bodice ripper", those haven't been written since the early 1980's. There is no bodice ripping allowed anymore. Try it, and it won't get published. I guarantee.
    I agree theres no reason no feel any 'shame' over being entertained by a book, either from this genre or any other.

    I can't say that I care for the censorship implied in your statement about "bodice ripper" books being guaranteed no possibility of being printed. I believe that the market ought to determine what is printed more so than the marketers. If there is still demand for a subgenre of bodice ripper romance there ought to be someone willing to cater to it. Attempting to 'elevate' the genre through denying credibility to its earlier models seems rather dismissive of those who paid the bucks to read them then, allowing the genre to evolve into what it has become.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leftcoaster
    I can't say that I care for the censorship implied in your statement about "bodice ripper" books being guaranteed no possibility of being printed. I believe that the market ought to determine what is printed more so than the marketers. If there is still demand for a subgenre of bodice ripper romance there ought to be someone willing to cater to it.
    Actually, this applies only to the mainstream Romance publishers. They tend to have the same set of "rules": no sexual violence (tearing bodices off, for instance) and there must be "an emotionally satisfying ending" (ie happily ever after, no heros or heroines die.)

    Now if someone wants some good old fashion bodice ripping, classic The Flame and the Flower will probably never go out of print. For some new style bodice ripping, romantica publisher Ellora's Cave has a whole line of S&M/Bondage romance which they say is their most popular sub-genre. Some of it is a little harsh, but they too have a rule--all sex must be consensual by . . . eh-hem . . . the joining, if I may put it like that. In other words, clothes can be torn off as long as she's happy before the act is done.

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