Will - Page 17

Winston Smith · 08-21-2004, 06:19 PM

If anyone else had been nominated in Will's place, they would've given her the same reaction. She had an alliance with the Trio and another alliance with Cowboy and a third alliance with Diane and Drew, so I'm sure they all would've felt betrayed and they all would've been pissed. I'm willing to cut Will some slack. Adria set up a situation that was guaranteed to get this type of reaction.

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Fanatic277 · 08-21-2004, 06:22 PM

Right, because Will didn't have any other secret alliances too. :rolleyes He's jealous because she got there first, he's always wanted to evict Adria except he was too scared to do it himself so he was hoping that Marvin would do it.

mrcorkles · 08-21-2004, 06:28 PM

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I don't think she blamed it on Jesus, I think she voted him off because she realised he wasn't on her side.

When Marvin confronted Adria about her choice of nominations(Will was present)she said that her faith played a role in her decision making. Marvin remarked 'So Jesus told you to put up the gay guy and the black guy?' and she said that she got a vision from Him to nominate them.

I'm just saying it's fine that she nominated them (even though she broke the alliance)just don't blame it on a higher power.

Winston Smith · 08-21-2004, 06:37 PM

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Right, because Will didn't have any other secret alliances too. :rolleyes He's jealous because she got there first, he's always wanted to evict Adria except he was too scared to do it himself so he was hoping that Marvin would do it.

Since the twins have the most solid alliance in the house, they are a threat, and everyone would be better off if only one of them was left in the game. It's also clear that they intend to split the winnings, which gives them an unfair advantage over everyone else.

There's a big difference between hoping someone will do something and doing it yourself. Will would've been staying truer to his word than either of the twins. How much do want bet the twins won't use the cop-out Wi, N, K suspected they would use if they were ever confronted with past agreements?

Fanatic277 · 08-21-2004, 06:44 PM

How is it clear they intend to split the money, just because they're sisters? Adria wouldn't even share a measly Pepsi with Natalie when she won HoH so what makes you think she'll share the cash?

Will never got the chance to do it because he never won HoH, that doesn't mean he was sticking with his alliance. His alliance was with Karen, he didn't care about the others and he's stated on many occasions that he want's them gone, he even had a plan on how to get rid of them so there's no way he would've stuck to his word.

Qboots · 08-21-2004, 07:50 PM

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His alliance was with Karen,

Poor Karen. If only she could have heard the things Will & Lori were saying behind her back in the early days. And remember, Will voted to evict Karen, not Lori. He's as two-faced as the rest of them.

Oceansands · 08-22-2004, 01:44 PM

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Poor Karen. If only she could have heard the things Will & Lori were saying behind her back in the early days. And remember, Will voted to evict Karen, not Lori. He's as two-faced as the rest of them.

Couldn't agree more. Will acted like an idiot. This game is all about who can lie the best (like Survivor) and Will lied better than most. When he was evicted he acted like he never lied about anything and came across like the big baby he is. I just don't get it when some of these HGs act like no one should lie to them, especially when they are liars too. I'm sure Will was told this is a game right from the get go. None of the other evicted HGs acted like a spoiled sport. I liked Will until he was evicted and saw what a poor loser he is. He was given every chance by Adria to make a deal for his safety but stubbornly refused to discuss it and now it's not his fault.......ugh! :phhht

Scarpias · 08-22-2004, 01:54 PM

I missed the first few weeks, so I don't know what Will did or didn't do. But, I think you can play the game in such a way that you don't lie or betray UNTIL someone lies or betrays you.

Leftcoaster · 08-22-2004, 03:19 PM

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Poor Karen. If only she could have heard the things Will & Lori were saying behind her back in the early days. And remember, Will voted to evict Karen, not Lori. He's as two-faced as the rest of them.

Poor Karen? I'm not recalling the details you're thinking about, QBoots, but while I am certain they happened as you state, I'm wondering if they were relevant at the point when Will was evicted.

I know Will voted to evict Karen instead of Lori, but I don't recall that he was pleased to be making that call. He would have preferred neither of them to be leaving.

While I was among the seemingly few that didn't have a major problem with the way he responded to being nominated, the whole 'pinky swear' thingy seemed a little over the top to me. That was then, this is now where a couple of weeks are equivilent to months in hamster time.

So your comment about Lori and Will sniping at Karen early on makes me wonder, if like diamonds, a comment is forever. By the time Will took off, he and Karen appeared to be tight in a way that went beyond a bond of necessity.

Personally, were I a HG, I believe I'd weigh fairly current actions as being far more worthy of note and response than those made early on when the HG's were still filling in blanks about one another.

Leftcoaster · 08-22-2004, 03:31 PM

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How is it clear they intend to split the money, just because they're sisters? Adria wouldn't even share a measly Pepsi with Natalie when she won HoH so what makes you think she'll share the cash?

Ah, thank you kindly, Fanatic277. Hearing that Adria was too tight to share a Pepsi with her sis not only makes me smile (attagirl, Adria), but kinda shatters the all too quick illusion I'd acquired that they'd find a way to share in their potential winnings.

Recent observations and a reminder to myself that these two emphasize competitiveness in the real world tend to suggest that, rather than sharing, one twins winning over the other would be used in the future (far too often, probably) as an illustration that those who try hardest get and deserve the biggest rewards.

I'm sure they'd probably share something, but instead of thinking of cash, I'm now envisioning a pity hug or two.

08-21-2004, 06:19 PM	#161
Winston Smith Serial killer killer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Miami Posts: 246	If anyone else had been nominated in Will's place, they would've given her the same reaction. She had an alliance with the Trio and another alliance with Cowboy and a third alliance with Diane and Drew, so I'm sure they all would've felt betrayed and they all would've been pissed. I'm willing to cut Will some slack. Adria set up a situation that was guaranteed to get this type of reaction.

08-21-2004, 06:22 PM	#162
Fanatic277 What's The 411? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: London Posts: 1,488	Right, because Will didn't have any other secret alliances too. :rolleyes He's jealous because she got there first, he's always wanted to evict Adria except he was too scared to do it himself so he was hoping that Marvin would do it.

08-21-2004, 06:44 PM	#165
Fanatic277 What's The 411? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: London Posts: 1,488	How is it clear they intend to split the money, just because they're sisters? Adria wouldn't even share a measly Pepsi with Natalie when she won HoH so what makes you think she'll share the cash? Will never got the chance to do it because he never won HoH, that doesn't mean he was sticking with his alliance. His alliance was with Karen, he didn't care about the others and he's stated on many occasions that he want's them gone, he even had a plan on how to get rid of them so there's no way he would've stuck to his word.

08-22-2004, 01:54 PM	#168
Scarpias FORT Regular Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 142	I missed the first few weeks, so I don't know what Will did or didn't do. But, I think you can play the game in such a way that you don't lie or betray UNTIL someone lies or betrays you.