Will - Page 15

Super Goten · 08-20-2004, 01:28 PM

How would you like it if the person that was supposed to be your allie got rid of you? Would you be happy? Will had a right to be mad at them!
I hate it when after the eviction everyone's all sad like "Oh I'm sooo sorry to see you go!!!

" Morons, you voted him out!

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candor · 08-20-2004, 01:45 PM

I could buy the "It's only a game, get over it" argument if we were talking about someone wigging out over losing at Monopoly.

But in Big Brother, the game pieces are the housemates themselves. It's entertaining precisely because it involves emotions, psychology, social interaction and, yes, betrayal.

Frankly, I would be surprised if they didn't take it personally. How could you live with people so closely and not bond with them? It's inevitable that you'd feel bad, mad or sad when they reject you.

Winston Smith · 08-20-2004, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by oneTVslave

He was so pissy that he didn't get to backstab them first. And I don't think Adria ever meant to vote for him until he started acting like such a b*tch. He deserves what he got.

Adria was planning to evict a member of her own team from the beginning. She made this abundantly clear in her conversation with Natalie before the nominations. She told her she didn't want Marvin as the first juror because she was afraid he would turn the other jurors against her. So she wanted to keep Marvin in the game and put a friend in the jury house. She even suggested evicting Natalie this week so that Natalie could campaign for her. Marvin was the pawn this week. Will was the target.

101ethan · 08-20-2004, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Goten

How would you like it if the person that was supposed to be your allie got rid of you? Would you be happy? Will had a right to be mad at them!

Don't forget that Will was suppose to be part of the girl alliance but throughout he was plotting with Karen to get rid of the twins, and then Drew and Diane. Will in a way did betray his own alliance, and if you read the live feed, you will know that before Adria was HOH, he wants Marvin to win and do the dirty work for him (vote one of the twins out). He just did not get the chance to do it. Diane and Adria seemed to have noticed a sub-alliance between Will, Karen, and Jennifer and tried to break it. Nothing wrong with that.

I think Will deserves what he got.

Tanyabean · 08-20-2004, 02:38 PM

I, like Marcellas, am mourning the loss of Will this morning with my black mandana.

Before I'm pummeled with random objects;
I wish Will had taken the noms better and hadn't been acting like such a spaz on the feeds and on the shows. Alot of people lost respect because of this and I completely understand. Yes, his eviction yesterday ALSO wasn't pretty...

Yet he was still my favourite, so I'm sad to see him go.

ChgoBurbs · 08-20-2004, 03:10 PM

''Big Brother'': Will gets the boot -- and the spotlight. Was homophobia a factor in his eviction? by Lynette Rice

ILL WILL Is karma on Will's side?

Whoo boy, did Will just call Adria a Bible-thumping homophobe on national TV? That was a pretty volatile exit interview with the ousted NYC nurse when he said how curious it was that Adria got a divine message from Jesus in the HOH room (who knew the big guy was such a huge fan?) and next thing you know, the only gay guy gets the boot. In fact, a lot was made this week about how ''BB''’s minorities got put up for eviction. I’m not so inclined to believe Marvin got targeted for his race, but I’m willing to think homophobia played a role in Adria’s surprising decision to oust Will.

What else could it be? Just a few weeks ago, Ms. Bootylicious pinky-swore that she’d stay close to Will (loved the moment, btw, when he gyrated in his G-string last week. Looks as if he did too). This should have been a slam-dunk week to get rid of the final horseman. But then Adria does an about face and targets the most beloved member -- not to mention least offensive -- member of the house. Why not Karen? She talks to herself! Why not Cowboy? He embarrasses himself! Why not Drew? He friggin’ shaves himself? Everywhere! I didn’t think I could hate twins so much (I have two young fraternals of my own), but I sure loathe these two. And spare me the martyr routine, Adria, and how it would be your ''honor'' to cast the deciding vote for eviction so your houseguests won’t have to. I haven’t heard such a load of crap from the ''Big Brother'' house since ''BB4''’s Scott was supposedly ''evicted'' for throwing chairs when, in reality, he scared the bejesus out everybody for having herpes.

''If karma is a boomerang, I’ll see you sooner rather than later,'' Will mumbled on his way out of the house (thank god for TiVo because it it took me three tries to figure that one out). Is that boy psychic or what? You'd think he just got a divine message from Jesus saying that Nakomis was about to win HOH! Man, that was a sweet competition (Natalie was out in the first round, even!), giving Nik her second win. Somewhere, Jase is clapping and flippin ol' Adria the bird. Or maybe he's just flappin' his arms and doing that Zoolander thing with his lips. I can't be sure.

If Nakomis is smart (and can I just take a moment to say how amazing it is that I've completely forgotten her original name?), she’ll put the twins up and hope Adria takes the fall. Most encouraging development: Diane defying her so-called alliance with twins by voting to evict Marvin rather than Will. This could be read two ways; Adria insisted that'd she'd break a tie so Diane, being the lapdog that she can be, follows Adria's direction and makes it a split vote. Or Diane is finally realizing that Nakomis is the stronger player and is actually steering clear of the twins. Game on! Just somebody takes the razor away from Drew, already. That whole obsession with smooth skin is just too creepy for words.

Muduh · 08-20-2004, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mrcorkles

I hate the fake goodbyes as well. They are the top of the worst. Will stopped playing the game the moment he was evicted,the others(Jase,Scott,Holly)are all interested in show biz and still haven't stopped playing the game. (if you caught Jase on Regis and Kelly,you know what I mean) They played the game all the way through their interviews,and will continue to play it until the reunion. How exhausting for them.

No Cork, I missed the R&K show, been "missing" it ever since Kathie Lee left, but I would like to have seen that one. I'm actually not sure what Will's reason was for being on this show. Does he want to be an actor? I know he has a great profession so why would he? I'm not sure about the others. Does anyone have a decent job? Well except for the "Fitness Professionals".

sukee · 08-20-2004, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChgoBurbs

''Big Brother'': Will gets the boot -- and the spotlight. Was homophobia a factor in his eviction? by Lynette Rice

ILL WILL Is karma on Will's side?

Whoo boy, did Will just call Adria a Bible-thumping homophobe on national TV? That was a pretty volatile exit interview with the ousted NYC nurse when he said how curious it was that Adria got a divine message from Jesus in the HOH room (who knew the big guy was such a huge fan?) and next thing you know, the only gay guy gets the boot. In fact, a lot was made this week about how ''BB''’s minorities got put up for eviction. I’m not so inclined to believe Marvin got targeted for his race, but I’m willing to think homophobia played a role in Adria’s surprising decision to oust Will.

Give me a break. That is so ridiculous an argument.

Leftcoaster · 08-20-2004, 03:50 PM

I'm with the crowd that prefers genuine emotion over nicey nice even when it ugly.

My initial feeling was that after being (with his allies) in a seeming world of trouble only a couple of weeks earlier, then to have his bloc almost miraculously taken control of the top dog position, and THEN find himself revisiting a world of trouble so quickly and unexpectedly, it was somewhat easy to understand why he might be doing a bit of moaning. Unlike Marvin the perpetual nominee, Will hadn't had the time to embrace his new station.

Sure, and O.K. Will acted out. Too many of the posts though (IMO) that I see detailing Will's transgressions lack an acknowledging round of applause for the supporting cast that apparently drove Will too crazed to shave. I don't believe Will would necessarily have alienated so many in such a short period of time if he hadn't been coached and prompted whenever he might otherwise have backed away from his cry me a river behavior.

esmattynd · 08-20-2004, 03:58 PM

Will acted like he was 3 years old last night. Jase and Scott both handled their eliminations with much more class, even though Jase's elimination, at the hands of his 4H "buddy" struck me as more cruel than Will's elimination. Jase basically had the whole house plotting against him and yet he took it like a man.

Will playing the "gay" card against Adria? Give me a break. That's the lowest you can go, right down there with Marvin playing the race card. I despise that.

Will was pretty funny throughout the show, and he had a lot of memorable lines and moments, but under adversity, he crumbled and showed his true nature. After all, its easy to be nice and funny when you're breezing through the game. Its how you react under adversity that reveals your character.

Eric

08-20-2004, 01:28 PM	#141
Super Goten FORT Fogey Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ohio Age: 18 Posts: 1,051	How would you like it if the person that was supposed to be your allie got rid of you? Would you be happy? Will had a right to be mad at them! I hate it when after the eviction everyone's all sad like "Oh I'm sooo sorry to see you go!!! " Morons, you voted him out! __________________ Favorite Reality Tv Quote Ever: "You have to do it. You have to accomplish your dreams." - Charla, The Amazing Race 5

08-20-2004, 03:10 PM	#146
ChgoBurbs FORT Fan Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 350	Entertainment Weekly Article ''Big Brother'': Will gets the boot -- and the spotlight. Was homophobia a factor in his eviction? by Lynette Rice ILL WILL Is karma on Will's side? Whoo boy, did Will just call Adria a Bible-thumping homophobe on national TV? That was a pretty volatile exit interview with the ousted NYC nurse when he said how curious it was that Adria got a divine message from Jesus in the HOH room (who knew the big guy was such a huge fan?) and next thing you know, the only gay guy gets the boot. In fact, a lot was made this week about how ''BB''’s minorities got put up for eviction. I’m not so inclined to believe Marvin got targeted for his race, but I’m willing to think homophobia played a role in Adria’s surprising decision to oust Will. What else could it be? Just a few weeks ago, Ms. Bootylicious pinky-swore that she’d stay close to Will (loved the moment, btw, when he gyrated in his G-string last week. Looks as if he did too). This should have been a slam-dunk week to get rid of the final horseman. But then Adria does an about face and targets the most beloved member -- not to mention least offensive -- member of the house. Why not Karen? She talks to herself! Why not Cowboy? He embarrasses himself! Why not Drew? He friggin’ shaves himself? Everywhere! I didn’t think I could hate twins so much (I have two young fraternals of my own), but I sure loathe these two. And spare me the martyr routine, Adria, and how it would be your ''honor'' to cast the deciding vote for eviction so your houseguests won’t have to. I haven’t heard such a load of crap from the ''Big Brother'' house since ''BB4''’s Scott was supposedly ''evicted'' for throwing chairs when, in reality, he scared the bejesus out everybody for having herpes. ''If karma is a boomerang, I’ll see you sooner rather than later,'' Will mumbled on his way out of the house (thank god for TiVo because it it took me three tries to figure that one out). Is that boy psychic or what? You'd think he just got a divine message from Jesus saying that Nakomis was about to win HOH! Man, that was a sweet competition (Natalie was out in the first round, even!), giving Nik her second win. Somewhere, Jase is clapping and flippin ol' Adria the bird. Or maybe he's just flappin' his arms and doing that Zoolander thing with his lips. I can't be sure. If Nakomis is smart (and can I just take a moment to say how amazing it is that I've completely forgotten her original name?), she’ll put the twins up and hope Adria takes the fall. Most encouraging development: Diane defying her so-called alliance with twins by voting to evict Marvin rather than Will. This could be read two ways; Adria insisted that'd she'd break a tie so Diane, being the lapdog that she can be, follows Adria's direction and makes it a split vote. Or Diane is finally realizing that Nakomis is the stronger player and is actually steering clear of the twins. Game on! Just somebody takes the razor away from Drew, already. That whole obsession with smooth skin is just too creepy for words.

08-20-2004, 03:58 PM	#150
esmattynd I love Julie Chen! Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 667	Will needs to grow up and compose himself... Will acted like he was 3 years old last night. Jase and Scott both handled their eliminations with much more class, even though Jase's elimination, at the hands of his 4H "buddy" struck me as more cruel than Will's elimination. Jase basically had the whole house plotting against him and yet he took it like a man. Will playing the "gay" card against Adria? Give me a break. That's the lowest you can go, right down there with Marvin playing the race card. I despise that. Will was pretty funny throughout the show, and he had a lot of memorable lines and moments, but under adversity, he crumbled and showed his true nature. After all, its easy to be nice and funny when you're breezing through the game. Its how you react under adversity that reveals your character. Eric

08-20-2004, 01:45 PM	#142
candor FORT Fogey Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The other Vancouver Posts: 1,763	I could buy the "It's only a game, get over it" argument if we were talking about someone wigging out over losing at Monopoly. But in Big Brother, the game pieces are the housemates themselves. It's entertaining precisely because it involves emotions, psychology, social interaction and, yes, betrayal. Frankly, I would be surprised if they didn't take it personally. How could you live with people so closely and not bond with them? It's inevitable that you'd feel bad, mad or sad when they reject you.

08-20-2004, 02:38 PM	#145
Tanyabean You're okay, Georgie. Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 72	I, like Marcellas, am mourning the loss of Will this morning with my black mandana. Before I'm pummeled with random objects; I wish Will had taken the noms better and hadn't been acting like such a spaz on the feeds and on the shows. Alot of people lost respect because of this and I completely understand. Yes, his eviction yesterday ALSO wasn't pretty... Yet he was still my favourite, so I'm sad to see him go.

08-20-2004, 03:50 PM	#149
Leftcoaster FORT Fogey Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,397	I'm with the crowd that prefers genuine emotion over nicey nice even when it ugly. My initial feeling was that after being (with his allies) in a seeming world of trouble only a couple of weeks earlier, then to have his bloc almost miraculously taken control of the top dog position, and THEN find himself revisiting a world of trouble so quickly and unexpectedly, it was somewhat easy to understand why he might be doing a bit of moaning. Unlike Marvin the perpetual nominee, Will hadn't had the time to embrace his new station. Sure, and O.K. Will acted out. Too many of the posts though (IMO) that I see detailing Will's transgressions lack an acknowledging round of applause for the supporting cast that apparently drove Will too crazed to shave. I don't believe Will would necessarily have alienated so many in such a short period of time if he hadn't been coached and prompted whenever he might otherwise have backed away from his cry me a river behavior.