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Old 08-15-2004, 08:32 PM   #81
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I was at the gym today and picked up an old issue (June 2002) of Oxygen magazine to read while I was working out. About halfway through I hit an article Seeing Double and who's proudly poised, each with a foot held above their head, but Adria and Natalie!

Just wanted to share my find!

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Thanks for sharing, Ivy. I'd like to see the article, though with the ambivilent way I'm feeling toward them, I'm not sure whether it would make me go gaga over them, or simply gag.

Their ability to avoid detection as twins in the house was (and still is), something I applauded. Less likeable to me for some hard to explain reason is finding out now that they are a cottage industry.

Fitness pros, "wellness" gurus, and the kind of personalities who self appointedly assume they have something magical to motivate the masses with is a turn off to me, though I still like seeing them until I see their jaw draw bridges lowering to allow their latest pearls of wisdom to sally forth.
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Old 08-15-2004, 09:06 PM   #82
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Even if you dislike the girl alliance, even if you're not fond of will, karen or nokomis you don't deliberately go piss them off, right?.... just say nothing or act as if you like them for the time being. You don't go around the house and put seeds of doubt into everyone's head, that's just stupid

The alliance (or friendship) between A and Nat and Diane and her bf is as solid as the alliance between the twins and willnakaren-trio... I don't see the twins giving diane and drew more truthful promises than to karen or will for example... the twins are obviously playing on their own, which they don't need to at this point. For the time being, the whole group should focus only on their original plan to get rid of marvin and cowboy.... the backstabbing and cat-fighting will inevitably happen, no need to worry about that but now is not the time.
I'd gathered that, even though I couldn't understand why, that Adria and Natalie are tight with Diane and Will. Are they "allies?" Not as I define it, though they'll likely vote as a bloc for the time being. The only trusted ally that I consider Adria to have is Natalie, and the same is true in reverse for Natalie.

I believe that survival in the near term means getting Michael and Marvin's vote as long as they are still around. I don't consider seeking their vote the same as wanting them for allies. It'll be a week to week struggle for one crucial vote, and the smart ones in the house will snatch them whereever they lie, even from within the enemies camp. Michael, for the loyalty aspects that others have noticed could STILL be recruited as a "never vote against you" ally, but Marvin needs to be used when possible, then abused by being discarded at the first available opportunity lest he win the game, which I envision him doing if he makes it to the final two.

Someone has to make a move sometime. I agree that it appears that Adria went almost out of her way in alienating Karen, but c'mon, did Karen in their HOH heart to heart make any attempt to meet her half way? I can understand Karen's reluctance at this point to spill all her beans without getting any back in return, but the sidestep dancing they were BOTH showing proficency at was not the sign of allies, and certainly not people still friendly with one another. Adria may have started the realpolitik festivities a week or so too early, but only time will tell.

I don't see pretending to be nice nice to be a positive, not when others believe it is just a ruse. Will, Karen, and Nakomis are already apparently in a mode where they are examining everything that is said and done for the latest confirmation for the backstabbing that they have been anticipating. When you prime yourself to expect it, you tend to see it occurring even if it actually isn't. Paranoia isn't personally enjoyable, but I kinda like the seeing HG's get a heaping healthy dose of it.

Earlier, Nakomis spoke of Diane's bond with Drew when she put her up. Now, I'll grant that Diane wasn't at all meant to leave then, even though I doubt there would have been many tears if she had, but the subject of the dangers of tight bonds had been broached then, and there doesn't need to be dramatics about betrayal that fog over the fact that Will is the same sorta story as Diane earlier. He's a legit target, and NOW is a good time in my opinion to whittle down the couples of the house. It might not be good timing, but it sure is something that needs doing.

I personally believe it is too late to put the genie back in the bottle. Will may not be voted out Thursday, but the Girl Power Treaty Organization disolved on Saturday with Will's nomination. Nothing could please me more.
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Old 08-16-2004, 06:07 AM   #83
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I think Will is a goner. I know people don't like him much anymore,but I like him a helluva lot more that I like Adria or Natalie.

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Old 08-16-2004, 11:58 AM   #84
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Someone has to make a move sometime. I agree that it appears that Adria went almost out of her way in alienating Karen, but c'mon, did Karen in their HOH heart to heart make any attempt to meet her half way? I can understand Karen's reluctance at this point to spill all her beans without getting any back in return, but the sidestep dancing they were BOTH showing proficency at was not the sign of allies, and certainly not people still friendly with one another. Adria may have started the realpolitik festivities a week or so too early, but only time will tell.
I guess I agree with you that only time will tell.

But the fact of the matter is A is not playing the good strategist you seem to portray her to be. At least I believe if Nat was HOH, she wouldn't put Will up. Therefore, A not only hurts herself but her own sis as well. Again the girl alliance should just "stick to the plan", alienate cowboy and/ or marvin instead of themselves. United we stand, divided we fall. It couldn't be more true here. If rampant paranoia is hitting the household like a bad flu then don't be surprised if in the end, when it is all said and done, marvin or cowboy or both come up on top. That's what scary. And that's what I don't want to see happen.
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Old 08-16-2004, 01:45 PM   #85
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I think she is trying to break up the strongest alliance...Will, Nak and Karen...the rest are wishy washy suck ups . If she takes Will off the block.. I think she would put up Karen or Nak!
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Old 08-18-2004, 01:15 PM   #86
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Adria is realy trying to force people to play the game her way this week.
Negotiate to save yourselves, tell me why I should use the veto on you.
There is more than one way to play the game and I think it's great that the two nominees won't cow-tow to her, they won't play ehr game and are basically letting things take their course this week.
They're sending her the clear message that they would rather risk their place in the house than make a deal with her.
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Old 08-18-2004, 04:02 PM   #87
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I agree completely, Fluff. I was so glad to see Marvin and Will both refuse to cave in and try to negotiate with Adria. Their stock continues to rise in my eyes, while Adria's continues to fall rapidly.
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I agree with both Fluff and Lobes, I'm glad neither caved in but it will be sad to see 1 of those 2 leave. They both added lots of humor in the house.
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Old 08-18-2004, 05:46 PM   #89
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I think Adria has just put herself and Natalie in a really dangerous position. The way I see it one of them is gone by next week.
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Old 08-18-2004, 09:45 PM   #90
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Catniptoy posted on 'What order would you evict the remaining HG's' thread

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Adria -Not only did she pull off the twin thing, but she has played it cool. She's not the one who did the most crying--that was Nat. Anyone who can stand there at the veto session and keep their cool with Marvin throwing insults at her deserves the money.
Thanks, Catniptoy. For some reason your comment about Adria keeping her cool has me realizing when I'd seen her cool demenor before.

Louise Fletcher portraying Nurse Ratched in One Flew Over The Cookoo's Nest

Adria had the same sort of patient look with an implied "You'll pay for that tantrum" undertone
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