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08-22-2004, 05:16 PM
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| brown and red and nasty. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Bikini coffee shop or in the ER dying of toxic shock syndrome
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It's not a typical grown up sibling situation, they're twins afterall, and ones that do nearly everything together. They've work/ed together, tour/ed together, make appearances together, share/run a business together, live in the same town; all of their lives and are obviously very close. Even the basis of their business philosophy is based on being twins (OMG Twinological!! :rolleyes ). Being on BB5 makes it no different. It'd be incredibly hard not to share the money and if they didn't I'm sure it would cause enormous friction between them and their families with a lot of, "If it weren't for me.." arguements. But for them, being as close as they are today, I doubt they have ever let it get to that point much in the past, because it's clear they DO share when it counts. The Pepsi arguement is kinda weak. There's a world of difference between being stingy with a can of soda and half a million dollars. PS. I think Winston Smith was correct (at least more correct) in his assertions, the advantage they do have is a little unfair. That, and I hate the Twins-- they suck. | |
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08-22-2004, 05:57 PM
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| FORT Regular Join Date: Aug 2004
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08-24-2004, 07:03 PM
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| Bonafide Hoo-ha Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Suburbs of Hell. (It's actually a really safe neighborhood)
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| Be kind to will's mistake Oh be kind!!! After all, he's going to have to spend a week alone in the house with Natalie, before her other half joins a week later..... Just think about it...1 week with nobody but Natalie....then another whole week with Natalie AND Adria? Give me copious amounts of alcohol, or give me death. |
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08-24-2004, 07:14 PM
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| Where I want to be... Join Date: Apr 2004
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the only way for will's vote not to have been "two-faced" would have been for him not to vote at all since his alliance was with BOTH of the two nominees. he had to pick one. | |
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08-25-2004, 06:04 AM
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| FORT Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004
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| From my recollection, Will voted out Karen because he knew (after talking with the other houseguests) that Lori was the main target and that the majority of the house (led by the 4H) was voting her out. He didn't want the vote to be unanimous and threw a vote the other way. Obviously, he would have liked to have both Lori and Karen remain in the game but that was impossible. As for the whole Adria situation, he may have dissed the twins and talked about their eviction but he himself wasn't the one who was going to do it. To say that if he won HOH instead of Adria, he would've put up the twins is purely speculative. I'm betting that if he did win HOH, he would've put up Cowboy and Marvin and played it safe (which Adria should have done as it is now coming back to bite her in the ass!). All the twin bashing was, in my opinion, strategic on his part - trying to instill a target for once the original alliance was done getting rid of the 4H and Marvin and deflect attention from himself. As for how he handled his nomination, he probably could have worked harder but he didn't want to campaign against Marvin and probably believed that even if it came to a tiebreaker, Adria would side with him considering their joint promise. On top of that, Adria herself said post nomination that she "doesn't play chess and does not put up pawns." After breaking her promise to him FIRST (talking to do something and actually executing and acting on your words are two very different things), she then expected him to guarantee her and her sister's safety in the future. I'd tell them where they could shove it as well! |
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08-25-2004, 01:44 PM
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| where did I leave the car Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Portland, OR
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| first post here, please be kind.... (speaking of kind) Be kind to will's mistake -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oh be kind!!! After all, he's going to have to spend a week alone in the house with Natalie, before her other half joins a week later..... Just think about it...1 week with nobody but Natalie....then another whole week with Natalie AND Adria? Give me copious amounts of alcohol, or give me death. Do not have the live feed, but can someone who does tell me is there a live feed of the jury house ? Would enjoy seeing Will and Natalie alone for a week....
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08-25-2004, 02:19 PM
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| Welcome to the FORT boxxer. There is a BB Live Feed forum that is for nothing but Live Feed transcripts, question, discussion, etc... This forum, on the other hand, is only for what is show on the show itself and no live feed information/spoilers/etc is to be discussed here. I'd post your question in the live feed forum as I'm sure someone will be able to answer that for you.
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08-25-2004, 02:21 PM
| #178 |
| where did I leave the car Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Portland, OR
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| I type corrected.... thanks, Bravo Fan, Will do.
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08-27-2004, 04:23 AM
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| I hope that Will and Natalie can solve their differences this week while they are alone together in sequesterville. I don't think Natalie had anything against Will as a person,but maybe had issues with him in the game.
__________________ Can't take a good day without a bad one Don't feel just to smile until I had one Where did I learn? I make a fuss about a little thing The rhyme is losing to the riddling | |
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09-23-2004, 12:07 PM
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| FORT Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Canada
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| Gaywatch: An interview with Will from "Big Brother" Gaywatch: An interview with Will from "Big Brother" by Christine Champagne September 23, 2004 The day after the September 21 finale of CBS' "Big Brother 5," openly gay cast member Will Wikle shared the scoop with Gaywatch about his experience on the reality show, which places its cast inside a house, prevents them from having contact with the outside world and leaves them to duke it out to be the last man -- or woman -- still remaining. A 26-year-old registered nurse who hails from Tupelo, Mississippi, and now resides in New York City, Wikle was a strong player but got evicted from the "Big Brother" house during week six of the game, becoming the first member of a seven-member jury that ultimately voted Drew the winner of the show. "Big Brother" is such a stressful game to play, but you emerged from it last night looking fantastic, like you had been on a spa vacation. I guess it helped that you had been sequestered in the jury house in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, for a month. I was in [the "Big Brother" house] for two months, and for the two months in there, all you have is these people you can't get away from. There's nowhere to run, there's nowhere to hide. Seriously. You get so sick of the surroundings, and you just want to be alone. So it was nice to be able to go to this amazing mansion in Puerto Vallarta and just totally veg for a week by myself [before other evicted houseguests arrived]. I had my music, a personal chef, a pool and the sun. If I had to be kicked out, it was a blessing in disguise that I was able to enjoy that place by myself for a week. But then your enemies -- twins Adria and Natalie -- showed up in Puerto Vallarta after they were evicted from the house. What was that like? It put a different spin on things. You wanted to see them come down there because you didn't want them to win the money. But at the same time it was so damn bittersweet, because you're like, I don't want to spend three weeks in paradise with Adria and Natalie. I would go back and forth on them. Whenever we would talk about the game, we would butt heads, and there was absolutely no way around it. They are just absolutely crazy. Taken as individuals, I get along much better with Adria than I do Natalie. But together they are so overly aggressive and cutthroat and hypocritical and selfish. You can't even talk to them when they're together because one's always jumping to the other's defense and arguing. It's so obnoxious that you just end up staying away from them altogether. At the end of the day, I don't think they are bad people, but they are so obnoxious when they are together. After Adria nominated you and Marvin for eviction the same week, Marvin made a crack that went something like, 'Yeah, it's funny that Jesus told you to put up the black guy and the gay guy.' Do you think Adria's decision was at all motivated by homophobia? No. When Marvin said that out on the balcony, I knew that I honestly didn't think that Adria was in any way discriminating. I think that if she had thought about it twice, she might not have put both of us up after saying the whole thing about Jesus [guiding her decisions] and other stuff. But I went along with it because I knew that it hurt her. I was so hurt by her betrayal that I was just like, I'm going to go with this because I know this makes her upset. Then when she [got evicted] and came down to Puerto Vallarta, she told me that her husband's brother is gay, and he's one of her best friends. That's the one thing that she was most concerned about -- not coming off in any way as racist or homophobic. So I honestly think that had nothing to do with [her decision]. As you were leaving the house after being evicted, you made a comment to Adria about how if karma is a boomerang it was coming right back at her. And, as we saw on TV, Adria had no clue what karma meant. She actually thought maybe it had something to do with Carmen Electra. Did you know she was so, uh, confused? That was great. We had a little CBS wrap party, and that's what everyone loved. They were like, 'She sat there in the diary room just talking to herself, and she was like, Carmen Electra? She could not figure it out.' Does she now know what karma is, and did you have to explain it to her? When she got down to Puerto Vallarta, Natalie and Adria and I had a sitdown, and we talked about karma and what it had done to her. On the finale, all the "Big Brother 5" castmates were reunited, and Jase made a remark to Marvin about how you weren't really Marvin's friend. What was that all about? You and Marvin seemed tight. We -- the jury -- weren't able to see any back episodes until we voted, and so Jase got evicted and was able to go home, see the episodes and just sit there and stew about what everyone had said about him because he was such an easy target. I think Jase thought I was one of his friends, and I think that when he got out and heard all the stuff we had said about his pit stains and his 45-year-old wrinkles and this and that and the other, he was so offended and upset about it that he came [to the reunion] with a huge chip on his shoulder and was rude to me. Then he started saying that to Marvin, and I think Marvin thought, "Oh no, Will's just been talking shit about me the entire time." So he was upset. But after they removed Jase from the studio, I was like, "Look, I have no idea what he was talking about." Marvin is definitely one person I've never said a cross word about on the show. Why did you vote for Drew to win the $500,000 grand prize over Cowboy? I was so not passionate about either one. Once Nakomis came down [to Puerto Vallarta after being evicted], I threw my hands up, then Diane came down. Diane made a lot of shady deals, and I know in a lot of ways she even sold me out. But at least she played a game, and she manipulated well. I thought that Drew pretty much rode her back fifty percent of the time. So it's one of those things where even though she had done some shady stuff, I still wanted her to win, and she needed the money so bad. And when you get down to it, Cowboy did absolutely nothing to get to where he was besides needing the money. Then Drew, while he did have some sort of game, (a) didn't need the money and (b) I think him riding Diane the entire time and using the fact that he knew she was desperately in love with him and [evicted her] right there at the end was just so slimy. I didn't know where to go [with my vote]. But I sat there and thought about it, and I knew from our jury discussions in Puerto Vallarta that I was going to be the tiebreaker vote, and I was telling [the producers] I have no idea what I am going to do. So that's why the producers put me last. They came in [to the green room] right before we went on and they said, "Do you know who you are voting for?" And I told them, "I absolutely have no idea, and I know that I'll be the tiebreaker vote. I haven't made up my mind yet." When I got down to the studio [to vote], I thought back on everything that [Drew and Cowboy] had told us during the question and answer session [with the jury], and I just thought, you know what, it's about playing a game, and no matter what someone's financial situation, what I've got to do is judge on game play, and that's why I did what I did. During the final Head of Household competition, Drew and Cowboy had to guess what answers the jury members had given to specific questions. You had been asked who in the house you would want to marry: Drew or Scott. We found out that your answer was Scott, which was a surprise. Why did you choose him? Honestly, I'm telling you the truth, no guy in that house was in any way sexually attractive to me. I mean, Drew is a very, very handsome guy. But you talk about dumb as a brick. In the entire two months I was there, he was sweet as hell, but I never heard him initiate a conversation once. He's a frat boy. One day, we sat on the balcony and talked about love for two hours, and it was me talking the entire time and him going, 'Yeah.' And once you get to know him, Scott is like an adopted pet from the pound. He has so many fucked-up things going on in that head, but you can't help but love him. Are you currently single? Absolutely. What kind of guys do you like? Someone who is passionate about life and what they do, who has goals and is a good conversationalist with a good sense of humor. Attractive is definitely in there, but it's not my top priority. Are you ready to be a gay sex symbol and a star in the gay community? [Laughs.] I've been out a few times, and it is very weird to be recognized. But people have been 100 percent supportive. I remember growing up in Mississippi, and the only gay person that was tangible to me was Norman on "The Real World." Gay representation on reality television became so important to me as a child because I was able to see what people were doing, what people thought. Norman was such an inspiration to me, so I wanted to be that for somebody else. As cheesy as it sounds, it is so, so true. So in this whole experience I wanted to represent myself very well, and what made me feel so good was after I got out, the executive producer of the show said that as far as popularity and ratings on the Web site and fan mail, I was the most popular player that they had ever had on the show. As I mentioned in a previous Gaywatch column that was basically an ode to you, my girlfriend wants the Fab Five on "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" to be expanded to the Fab Six so you can join the show. Do you have any plans to pursue television work? Several people already approached me [after the show wrapped]. Some CBS people and Julie Chen [the show's host]. A lot of people are interested in doing some on-camera personality type stuff with me. So today I have to do more press, then they gave me an agent to call, then I have another meeting for tomorrow, then I have the wrap party on Thursday night. So I will talk to people there. We'll just see what happens. The thing about it is, I am a nurse by trade and love health care. I would love to do something entertainment-related like hosting "Queer Eye" kind of stuff. The other thing is, now I am part of the CBS and Viacom family, and Viacom is launching LOGO, the gay network, in February. There are rumors on the street that they are going to be going to reality-TV personalities to help get their original programming off the ground. We'll see what happens. Right now, I'm open to anything. But if it doesn't work out and I go back to nursing, I would be 100 percent satisfied. I cannot wait to get back to New York. Who are you going to remain friends with from the show? Nakomis is one of my dear friends, and I can never imagine losing touch with her. There will be several people that I will keep in contact with. But probably my best friends after the show will be Lori, Nakomis, even Diane. Most of the girls, I'd say. We all became so close. After spending so much time with them, I don't think there is any way we could ever lose touch. All of the reality-show veterans I have interviewed over the years insist that being on one of these shows is a life-altering experience. Is that true for you? Well, I'm telling you this: The biggest gift that this whole experience gave me was [an appreciation of] the fact that until your life and your family and your friends are taken away from you, it's almost like we never really know how lucky we all are. That was the one thing that kept me going the entire time. I would get up and go sit out in the hammock and I would just imagine I was back with my family or my friends, that I was in New York. I would just sit there for probably two or three hours at a time and try to spiritually commune with them. It was so difficult to be separated from my support system. It just taught me so much. |
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