Michael

[Miss_Griss]

Michael seems like a sweety...basically nice and very tender (which also makes him quite vulnerable in this situation).

I think he's the type of person who might want acceptance so badly that he'll do just about anything to fit in, and that worries me. I think he has a conscience but not much of a spine, and I hope he doesn't end up doing things before the show is over that will make him feel guilty for a long time to come.

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[decan]

Originally Posted by Muduh

I'm liking him more all the time. I think he's an honest, hard working young man who probably hasn't had a lot of the privileges that the "beautiful" people have. I certainly don't feel that he's out of place in the house. To me, he's sort of the only one who is real. I don't know about everyone else, but in every day life I run in to a lot more Michael's than the frat boys and model types, thank goodness.
Oh, decan? TOTALLY disagree. When Michael and Jennifer are gone I have no more reason to watch. The frat house thing will wear really thin with me.

Ok let me get this straight, I'm not patronizing Micheal at all, in fact I'm speaking of the opposite. I want what's in the best interest of him and by him being at the BB house now or participating in a show like BB, I see it as him being hurting himself more than it would gain. Just like the WB Superstar USA contestants, he doesn't know what he's in for.... it is a FACT that he is in for over his head for SO many reasons..... the thing with long-lost-sister, the father... these are serious issues that he needs to deal with frankly "outside" the house.... BB should be about fun and games, no more no less. And young Micheal just doesn't have the mental or physical capacity to measure up to the others to play this game to his fullest extent for instance..... right from the get-go he got the short-end of the stick. It's not fair to him. It's agonizing to see him try so hard to "fit in" with the crowd. And for what? Just to be all buddy-buddy with a bunch of egomaniacs? To me it's not worth it! It's not good TV and it has been done with these kind of reality shows over and over and over again.... I'm tired of it. Remember Paradise Hotel?

Look, I'm not judging the guy with bad intentions here. I'm judging him based on what's best for him. I like the guy too and I do think he's a good genuine fella, a good citizen even a good role model for others.... but the fact of the matter is BB is just not a good setting for him to be vulnerable like that is stupid and bad-judgement on his part. I don't care how much money he's playing for.... again remember Paradise Hotel (with beau, charla and the others)? Nothing good came out of that show.

Originally Posted by Jewelsy

That's certainly your opinion. However, *I* wouldn't determine how deserving he is to be on this show based on only two episodes. We haven't seen enough of him yet.

So far. Michael's my favorite. He's seems genuine and endearing. Oh, and I happen to love his accent.

Yes I agree he's genuine and endearing. But that doesn't mean anything in a setting where you're basically the ONLY person like that. You're the 'odd man out' right from the start and it's not fair to you or to your fellow contestants (who have to get out of their way for you not to get your FEEEELings hurt) ....it's not fun anymore.

Originally Posted by Candybar

Decan, who would "deserve" to be on the show? It is a term I had never even considered when thinking of Big Brother.

I think this is the one man on the show who will clean up with commercial opportunities after the show. He is the cousin you love to run into at family gatherings, he is the guy who shows up when you move and carries twice his weight in boxes, the boy down the street who helps out his widowed mom, the guy who services your car and remembers your name. He is your husbands buddy from high school who always praises your cooking. The "frat pack" are cloned all over the streets of LA. Michael is unique in LA. Casting did a Great Job in selecting Michael.

Yes he is. He's the average joe no doubt about it but I'll rather watch a show either everyone is the average joe (where everyone is Micheal-like) or everyone is jock-frat-like (where all people are unrealistically beautiful and cloned) .....and when there's half a mil on the line, everyone should start on more or less equal grounds.

[decan]

look, why would it be fair for someone like Micheal to work X-times more harder just to gain some respect or "game advantage" than folks like Jase or Drew who doesn't need to sweat a drop and get all their upper hand they need (generally speaking)?

and..... And..... he doesn't need to put up with people like marvin who obviously have no sense of human emotions at all why does he need to put up with his "crap"?

[mom2]

Originally Posted by decan

look, why would it be fair for someone like Micheal to work X-times more harder just to gain some respect or "game advantage" than folks like Jase or Drew who doesn't need to sweat a drop and get all their upper hand they need (generally speaking)?

and..... And..... he doesn't need to put up with people like marvin who obviously have no sense of human emotions at all why does he need to put up with his "crap"?

Because he wanted to. And because he is a productive "PERSON" over the age of 21 he is allowed to make his own choices. Do you really think he hasn't looked in the mirror ? What I see is a man of quality, what others see is up to them. He has just as much right to try his hand at this game as any of the others, and I say "THANK GOODNESS" for someone of quality character there instead of the fluffs/snobs to which we are usually treated.
Even if he does not win, place or show he has comported himself thus far with respect and I'm proud that he is from my state.

Edited to change "male" to "PERSON".

[Muduh]

I have to assume that no one in this discussion knows Michael personally. If that is truly the case, how on earth can any one of us sit and determine his mental or physical capacity? For all we know he may be as dumb as a stump or a borderline rocket scientist. I'm in no position to determine any of that. I have enough trouble trying to correct my own grammatical errors and spelling.
As far as him needing to be out of the house to get himself straight, I have to agree. I feel that it was totally unfair to ever put him in the position he finds himself. Now that he is in the position, I admire him for hanging in.
I just like him because he is more "my kind of people". I also think he could use the money more than anyone else in the house.

[Qboots]

Originally Posted by decan

Look, I'm not judging the guy with bad intentions here. I'm judging him based on what's best for him.

I'm pretty comfortable with letting Michael judge what's best for Michael. He'll be fine.

[TiminPhoenix]

At least he isn't prancing about like Jase or Scott, whose Sun they revolve around is their own reflected shallow image.

But bullies of the world will always have fans. People often admire sheer power, hey Saddamn had fans, granted it's not always pretty (think Michael Moore in a speedo bad)

Michael is real. If that includes his accent, his hat, his need to visit a good dental pro, so be it......he still seems to me a lot better person than pretty boys Jase or Scott will ever be.

[duplessis3]

Originally Posted by Muduh

I have to assume that no one in this discussion knows Michael personally. If that is truly the case, how on earth can any one of us sit and determine his mental or physical capacity? For all we know he may be as dumb as a stump or a borderline rocket scientist. I'm in no position to determine any of that. I have enough trouble trying to correct my own grammatical errors and spelling.
As far as him needing to be out of the house to get himself straight, I have to agree. I feel that it was totally unfair to ever put him in the position he finds himself. Now that he is in the position, I admire him for hanging in.
I just like him because he is more "my kind of people". I also think he could use the money more than anyone else in the house.

I doubt even the best, smartest player in the world could deal with the fishbowl life after learning the sister he never knew he had was there, AND that his father never even knew about him! (He said "I know Mama's side of the story and now I need to learn his" which indicated to me that his mother had told him that they had been deserted)
I don't remember the name, but there was a young lady in the 2001 season that lost her cousin in the Twin Towers. It was just cruel for her that she was still there, didn't hear right away and wasn't with family.

[Qboots]

Originally Posted by duplessis3

I don't remember the name, but there was a young lady in the 2001 season that lost her cousin in the Twin Towers. It was just cruel for her that she was still there, didn't hear right away and wasn't with family.

Was her name Monica? I thought they did tell her, and gave her the option of leaving. But I could be wrong. I'm old and my memory is going.

[edgeover17]

Originally Posted by Qboots

Was her name Monica? I thought they did tell her, and gave her the option of leaving. But I could be wrong. I'm old and my memory is going.

All I remember them telling her was that there had been a terrorist attack on the WTC and that her cousin's status was not known. They gave her no details.