Michael - Page 13

Mizz Piper · 08-06-2004, 10:35 AM

Hi Leftcoaster, I believe the four horseman and Holly got exactly what they deserved, backstabbing knives and all. While I know all of the house guests were shocked when the twin twist was revealed, for Michael to sit there and continuously state that it was Holly just shows how out of touch he really is with this game. A clever person would have kept quite and looked around at all of the other house guests to read their facial reactions. So much can be gained in this game by watching and carefully listening and also by keeping your tongue in check which seems impossible for some of these house guests. Michael should take some lessons from his sister Nakomis who really seems to be playing this game very well. Oh, and your comment about the soiled cushion was funny.

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Leftcoaster · 08-08-2004, 03:24 AM

Hi, Mizz Piper. I know they deserved it, but with the sudden switch of fate, I'm kinda feeling sorry for the boys, all except Drew.

Michael's section of 8/7's program, where it shows his challenges with the english language just made me wanna hug the guy while wishing I still bothered taping shows like this. His "shoot!" comment when he raised up after hearing about the twin twist had me rethinking the soiled britches scenario.

Now that the Horsemen are history, I don't believe that the gals will stick together long enough to eliminate the guys one after the other. I can see Cowboy hanging around awhile longer.

Krom · 08-08-2004, 03:32 AM

If Michael goes to the end, it will because it's a variation on the "villain" strategy--where people take someone universally hated along with them. Cryboy isn't hated, but everyone (and I mean EVERYONE, especially his Horsey buddies) finds him pathetic. They might feel sorry for him, but he takes it SO over the top that I think it trancends from pity into loathing. They can legitimately feel for him in moments like him seeing his Dad's picture, but his over-emotional reactions are apparently relentless. And in the end, I don't see this year's crop voting for a winner based on that.

Leftcoaster · 08-08-2004, 03:59 AM

I hear what you are saying, Krom, but I'm inclined to disagree. With the end of the Horsemen, I don't believe there is anyone remaining truly unlikeable, even Jase. I believe if it came down to the end with Michael vs any other houseguest, the jurors would hand it to Michael for a combination of reasons, simply having lasted to that point one of the primary ones, considering how challenged Michael appears to be at times.

In addition, with the evil fog of the Horsemen disipated, I believe that the others would see whoever was up against Michael as being in many ways similar to themselves in either the way they played or in capability. Seeing someone that compares to me would have me thinking THEY had MY spot, and I'd give it to Michael again.

He's danger incarnate IMO if someone makes the mistake of taking him into the final two. Last year, toward the end of the game I'd undergone a transformation and was pulling for Robert to get the cash for the same sort of reasons I apply to Cowboy.

decan · 08-08-2004, 04:27 AM

Ah Micheal..... altho the rest of the houseguest do sympathize with his "personality", I don't think he appreciates them as much in return. Except for his horsemen buddies and jennifer, I don't think he likes any of the girls or marvin. So I doubt cowboy will last as long as some of you guys speculate.

Leftcoaster · 08-13-2004, 05:20 PM

I wouldn't have predicted it as being possible, but last night Michael became my favorite HG, partly because of his actions, partly in comparison with how the others behaved.

I still don't expect him to win, he'll probably form an impression of his butt in the eviction seat after mounting it week after week for the forseeable future, but I'll be pulling for him to stick around.

Perhaps Little Lord Drew is a better player (though I don't for a moment believe that), but I believe Michael is a man in a way that Drew may never be.

Repeatedly now, Drew is given an opportunity to simply tell the truth to those that trusted and depended on him. Time and time again, he continues to GO OUT OF HIS WAY to lie, even if it means stalking after people who don't want his company to tell his latest gratuitous whopper.

Michael chose his side and his lot, making peace with the idea of going out with integrity if that was what developed. Michael may seem gullible, but honest people generally expect others to be so as well. Liar apprentice approaching miserable master Drew is conditioning himself to be a first class liar, not just a house liar, but a liar in general. I hope he gets plenty of opportunity fretting about the legions of liars that he will constantly see around him through his scheming life.

Lying without reason isn't an indicator of strategy, its one that points to a character flaw.

Oo Bubbles oO · 08-13-2004, 05:37 PM

I feel sorry for Micheal now. He goning to be playing the game on his own. But even if he is evicted he is in the jury.

Leftcoaster · 08-15-2004, 03:45 AM

Michael rightly believes, after hearing the latest from the weasel, that he is the last surviving Horseman.

He in tone and body language bitch slappedly dismisses Drew. Ouch! Now THAT has got to burn.

When the undisputed champ of cluelessness crowns you as the princess of uselessness, you know you have ridden a broken express elevator down to the very bottom of the subbasement of measurable respect.

edgeover17 · 08-15-2004, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Leftcoaster

Michael chose his side and his lot, making peace with the idea of going out with integrity if that was what developed. Michael may seem gullible, but honest people generally expect others to be so as well.

I really don't see how a truly honest and ethical person could win BB. It's all about deceipt and manipulation. I know I'd be lousy on it, brcause I know that to have any chance at the money, I'd have to do things I wouldn't be proud of later.

Leftcoaster · 08-15-2004, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeover17

I really don't see how a truly honest and ethical person could win BB. It's all about deceipt and manipulation. I know I'd be lousy on it, brcause I know that to have any chance at the money, I'd have to do things I wouldn't be proud of later.

I believe we are at the cusp of one of those "what if" moments in time that open up and provide the only hope of an honest person, lets say Michael, to make it to the top two.

The two factions splintering away from the Girl Power Alliance may get into a weekly tit for tat revenge mode, targeting each other while allowing Michael to progressively move another step closer to the finish line.

Does he DESERVE to win? I don't think so, but I generally don't about the last two remaining. If he makes it because others got distracted by attacking each other, then in one sense he is a true survivor, if not a true player.

08-06-2004, 10:35 AM	#121
Mizz Piper Checking it all out! Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 95	Hi Leftcoaster, I believe the four horseman and Holly got exactly what they deserved, backstabbing knives and all. While I know all of the house guests were shocked when the twin twist was revealed, for Michael to sit there and continuously state that it was Holly just shows how out of touch he really is with this game. A clever person would have kept quite and looked around at all of the other house guests to read their facial reactions. So much can be gained in this game by watching and carefully listening and also by keeping your tongue in check which seems impossible for some of these house guests. Michael should take some lessons from his sister Nakomis who really seems to be playing this game very well. Oh, and your comment about the soiled cushion was funny. __________________ Mizz Piper

08-08-2004, 03:32 AM	#123
Krom Fool... but no pity. Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 18,220	If Michael goes to the end, it will because it's a variation on the "villain" strategy--where people take someone universally hated along with them. Cryboy isn't hated, but everyone (and I mean EVERYONE, especially his Horsey buddies) finds him pathetic. They might feel sorry for him, but he takes it SO over the top that I think it trancends from pity into loathing. They can legitimately feel for him in moments like him seeing his Dad's picture, but his over-emotional reactions are apparently relentless. And in the end, I don't see this year's crop voting for a winner based on that. __________________ "Not to denigrate the TV show, but nobody ever died," Cannell said recently. "We drove cars off cliffs and people got out and walked away. We're not going to do that [in the movie]. In this the tone is more dangerous - you can really die. It's very tense and exciting." Stephen J Cannell, on the new A-Team movie being produced

08-13-2004, 05:37 PM	#127
Oo Bubbles oO FORT Regular Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In Maimi Posts: 108	I feel sorry for Micheal now. He goning to be playing the game on his own. But even if he is evicted he is in the jury. __________________ Bubbles Tea

08-08-2004, 03:24 AM	#122
Leftcoaster FORT Fogey Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,403	Hi, Mizz Piper. I know they deserved it, but with the sudden switch of fate, I'm kinda feeling sorry for the boys, all except Drew. Michael's section of 8/7's program, where it shows his challenges with the english language just made me wanna hug the guy while wishing I still bothered taping shows like this. His "shoot!" comment when he raised up after hearing about the twin twist had me rethinking the soiled britches scenario. Now that the Horsemen are history, I don't believe that the gals will stick together long enough to eliminate the guys one after the other. I can see Cowboy hanging around awhile longer.

08-08-2004, 03:59 AM	#124
Leftcoaster FORT Fogey Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,403	I hear what you are saying, Krom, but I'm inclined to disagree. With the end of the Horsemen, I don't believe there is anyone remaining truly unlikeable, even Jase. I believe if it came down to the end with Michael vs any other houseguest, the jurors would hand it to Michael for a combination of reasons, simply having lasted to that point one of the primary ones, considering how challenged Michael appears to be at times. In addition, with the evil fog of the Horsemen disipated, I believe that the others would see whoever was up against Michael as being in many ways similar to themselves in either the way they played or in capability. Seeing someone that compares to me would have me thinking THEY had MY spot, and I'd give it to Michael again. He's danger incarnate IMO if someone makes the mistake of taking him into the final two. Last year, toward the end of the game I'd undergone a transformation and was pulling for Robert to get the cash for the same sort of reasons I apply to Cowboy.

08-08-2004, 04:27 AM	#125
decan FORT Fan Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: I LIVE HERE Age: 98 Posts: 277	Ah Micheal..... altho the rest of the houseguest do sympathize with his "personality", I don't think he appreciates them as much in return. Except for his horsemen buddies and jennifer, I don't think he likes any of the girls or marvin. So I doubt cowboy will last as long as some of you guys speculate.

08-13-2004, 05:20 PM	#126
Leftcoaster FORT Fogey Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,403	I wouldn't have predicted it as being possible, but last night Michael became my favorite HG, partly because of his actions, partly in comparison with how the others behaved. I still don't expect him to win, he'll probably form an impression of his butt in the eviction seat after mounting it week after week for the forseeable future, but I'll be pulling for him to stick around. Perhaps Little Lord Drew is a better player (though I don't for a moment believe that), but I believe Michael is a man in a way that Drew may never be. Repeatedly now, Drew is given an opportunity to simply tell the truth to those that trusted and depended on him. Time and time again, he continues to GO OUT OF HIS WAY to lie, even if it means stalking after people who don't want his company to tell his latest gratuitous whopper. Michael chose his side and his lot, making peace with the idea of going out with integrity if that was what developed. Michael may seem gullible, but honest people generally expect others to be so as well. Liar apprentice approaching miserable master Drew is conditioning himself to be a first class liar, not just a house liar, but a liar in general. I hope he gets plenty of opportunity fretting about the legions of liars that he will constantly see around him through his scheming life. Lying without reason isn't an indicator of strategy, its one that points to a character flaw.

08-15-2004, 03:45 AM	#128
Leftcoaster FORT Fogey Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,403	Michael rightly believes, after hearing the latest from the weasel, that he is the last surviving Horseman. He in tone and body language bitch slappedly dismisses Drew. Ouch! Now THAT has got to burn. When the undisputed champ of cluelessness crowns you as the princess of uselessness, you know you have ridden a broken express elevator down to the very bottom of the subbasement of measurable respect.