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Old 08-01-2004, 02:13 PM   #71
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You know, at the end of Saturday's broadcast they had a nice profile shot of both twins, and it's obvious that whichever of them was wearing the plaid pajamas by that point has a much firmer chin than the other twin.

It kind of goes with the feeling I had a few weeks ago that although they are both in great physical shape, but also both somewhat rounded, that one of them has more weight in the face than the other.
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But you also have to realize that people in the house are not going to examine Adria's chin, and they don't have a TV camera to show it...
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Old 08-01-2004, 02:35 PM   #73
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But you also have to realize that people in the house are not going to examine Adria's chin, and they don't have a TV camera to show it...
Did I say they would? I'm just noting that its true, not implying anything else.
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Old 08-01-2004, 02:43 PM   #74
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Ok, I just assumed there was a point behind you saying that...

sorry... ass... you and me. got it.
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Old 08-01-2004, 10:33 PM   #75
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I have a feeling that CBS is going to make a lame attempt to make us think that Adria/Natalie have been discovered.
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Old 08-15-2004, 03:26 AM   #76
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Well, I don't know that Adria is who I'd have cared to see become HOH this week, but at least it provides an opportunity to get a closer look at her and how she thinks and acts.

When Michael led the pack of this weeks brown nosers, I kind of appreciated the stance she took in response. Didn't she almost exclusively restrict he comments to "uh huh, um hmm, uh huh, um hmm?"

Not playing obvious favorites, she took a similar stance with her little bud Karen, playing a nice game of "show me yours and I'll listen", which pleased Karen to no end.

Talking with her cuddle bunny Natalie, Adria seems to indicate that either she has a minor case of delusion of grandeur, or no one has as of yet indicated to her in a way that has sunk in that HOH changes from week to week.

Speaking of Nakomis in a manner that makes me feel like she believes she is HOH from now on, Adria says something along the lines of "I ain't putting her up YET. Yes, Your royal highness, whatever you deem fit, oh mighty mistress.

Adria isn't just in control of the BB house though, if she isn't in control of Nakomis's alternate universes, she at least is in control of the Jury House as well, and she'll determine who to put in there to serve her majesties wants and desires, thank you very much.

Adria may be queen bee, but she is still led by a "higher power" to make the nominee decision.

(I seem to do more heaving and hurling in regards to the sactimonious crap that flows through the mouths of HOH's at nominee time, and Adria's reign proves to be no exception).

Adria says putting Marvin and Will on the block offer them the gift of being able to 'rise to the occasion'. I hope that Adria is similarly blessed repeatedly in future weeks.
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Old 08-15-2004, 01:28 PM   #77
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Adria says putting Marvin and Will on the block offer them the gift of being able to 'rise to the occasion'. I hope that Adria is similarly blessed repeatedly in future weeks.
See that's the thing. A is being soooo stupid this week. She can criticize others about their business but when it comes to her own she's nothing but a coward. It's nothing but a double standard here.

A was stupid. Stupid Stupid Stupid. If she was to care so much about the "jury" side of the equation, she should NOT have isolated herself from the "girls alliance" in the first place... at the very least she should not have nominated Will the way she had. Instead of Will, Karen, Jen and Diane voting IN HER FAVOR if she made it to the finals.... I think now A has became the "enemy" (in the words of Will- Karen, 'the new Jase') and she has just miscalcuated this crucial step costing her the half-million.

The best thing she should've done is to get rid of marvin then cowboy as originally planned WITHOUT perceiving hidden agendas (ie show your cards to everyone... or at least show them to your supposed allies, don't hide anything from them)

Yet now A has dug herself a hole and I'm afriad she's dragging her twin sis along with her (which I think it's sort of unfair). And consequently the trust between them and their "friends" karen, will and jen deteriorate. And in bb, that is a huge problem.

Look, if she cared so much about playing the game fairly or honoring her motto "rising to the occasion" then she should NOT have played so underhandedly.... she should've kept her word and up front about everything and only until cowboy and marvin are out of the house forever, only then she can start her "back stabbing" .....because by then people would be understanding and they wouldn't have such hard feelings and even if they get eliminated by her hands, it would be easier to swallow, which plays crucially in the jury decision.

What she should've done is to implement the 6-finger plan (or 5-finger?) targetting marvin.... by going to her ally and have everyone on board. Why did jase fall so hard and why he didn't even have a chance is because everyone was solidly behind the "plan" and everybody are more than happy and willing to do the job..... there were no rifts in the alliance, no hard feelings, no worrying about the "twins" whatsoever ....again will- karen they said it best, when A needed the group to oust the 4H (to get her sis in the house for instance), she is solidly behind the team yet when opportunity comes, she selfishly takes advantage of the situation even hurts her teammates.

Somebody should take this woman out the door to make the show much easier to watch.
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A was stupid. Stupid Stupid Stupid. If she was to care so much about the "jury" side of the equation, she should NOT have isolated herself from the "girls alliance" in the first place... at the very least she should not have nominated Will the way she had. Instead of Will, Karen, Jen and Diane voting IN HER FAVOR if she made it to the finals.... I think now A has became the "enemy" (in the words of Will- Karen, 'the new Jase') and she has just miscalcuated this crucial step costing her the half-million.

The best thing she should've done is to get rid of marvin then cowboy as originally planned WITHOUT perceiving hidden agendas (ie show your cards to everyone... or at least show them to your supposed allies, don't hide anything from them)
I don't at all consider it a mistake to target Will, I just think she should have done the job right by simultaneously putting Karen up at the same time instaead of Marvin.

The girl alliance that blossomed into the mighty Girl Power Alliance was born of desperation and has been the same sort of "alliance" that the U.S. and Soviet Union enjoyed as long as Germany (Jase) was still the threat that it (he) was to them both (all).

In the words of the talking heads, the BB intelligence "chatter" has indicated not only the divisions, but the likely assumed targets depending on which sub alliance faction got HOH. There is nothing new abnd dramatic about the idea that Adria and Natalie have a preference for Diane and Drew, though it seems inexplicable to me and says something to me about the way they think (or not).

Cowboy and Marvin were the ones supposedly designated OFFICIALLY, but had one of the three representing the Willnakkaren triad gained HOH instead of Adria, it wouldn't have been any more shocking at this point to have seen Adria and Natalie doing the twin pose on the eviction settee.

I believe the future belongs (at least short term) to whichever side does the most effective job of approaching Marvin and Michael.
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I was at the gym today and picked up an old issue (June 2002) of Oxygen magazine to read while I was working out. About halfway through I hit an article Seeing Double and who's proudly poised, each with a foot held above their head, but Adria and Natalie!

I wish I had a scanner so I could share the entire article, it's about 7 pages long and contains quite a few pics. It begins:

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Natalie Carroll feels especially close to Adria Klein. At 5'9" and 145lb, the strawberry blonde Fitness Twins share the spotlight at virtually every major fitness contestthey enter. Last September both athletes, in pursuit of their muscle mission, entered the 2001 Miss Fitness showdown at the Rio Suite Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas. Before 7,000 fans, Adria captured the Miss Fitness World title. Not to be outdone, Natalie was crowned Miss Fitness USA. It was the first time a set of twins won back-to-back fitness competitions in the same night.

Hollywood was also jolted by Natalie and Adria's double dose of fitness. Several film offers are pending and the 27 year old fitness divas from Birmingham, Alabama signed to star in The Real Challenge. Targeted at young teens, the weekly television fitness fest made its debut last fall on the USA Network.

Although their Vegas victories and TV series elated Natalie and Adria, they weren't surprised. They've done everything together in their three years of fitness competing - combining their goals, workouts and food plans. As a result, they've excelled in record time. Together, Natalie and Adria know how to get in top shape - and staty there. Their exceptional training program has made them renowned fitness competitors.
It then goes on to show "a week in the life of" training schedule, then a sample meal plan. Then about 4 pages of excercises and photos.

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I don't at all consider it a mistake to target Will, I just think she should have done the job right by simultaneously putting Karen up at the same time instaead of Marvin.

The girl alliance that blossomed into the mighty Girl Power Alliance was born of desperation and has been the same sort of "alliance" that the U.S. and Soviet Union enjoyed as long as Germany (Jase) was still the threat that it (he) was to them both (all).

In the words of the talking heads, the BB intelligence "chatter" has indicated not only the divisions, but the likely assumed targets depending on which sub alliance faction got HOH. There is nothing new abnd dramatic about the idea that Adria and Natalie have a preference for Diane and Drew, though it seems inexplicable to me and says something to me about the way they think (or not).

Cowboy and Marvin were the ones supposedly designated OFFICIALLY, but had one of the three representing the Willnakkaren triad gained HOH instead of Adria, it wouldn't have been any more shocking at this point to have seen Adria and Natalie doing the twin pose on the eviction settee.

I believe the future belongs (at least short term) to whichever side does the most effective job of approaching Marvin and Michael.
Then tell me WHO are the twins allies? Marvin? Micheal? Ha are you kidding me? Why would you want to ally yourself with the two most desperate/ hated people in the house instead with those who, as the past shows, you can trust and who hold the "majority" of the power in the house so far? Even if you dislike the girl alliance, even if you're not fond of will, karen or nokomis you don't deliberately go piss them off, right?.... just say nothing or act as if you like them for the time being. You don't go around the house and put seeds of doubt into everyone's head, that's just stupid

Besides, can you honestly tell me you can trust marvin? the fate of the half million in his hands? I can understand micheal's integrity but marvin? That guy has nothing to lose yet the opposite is true for A and her sis! If the twins put all their trust on marvin, they're basically signing their own death warrents.... cowboy would certainly against it, so would will, karen and nakomis and diane and drew would not likely help either, so you're going from a relatively safe and solid ally that will last for at least a couple more weeks to isolating yourself from your ally and putting a HUGE target sign behind your back.... like somebody else eluded to earlier, they are letting other people to come up with more (unnecessary) excuses to get rid of them on top of the twin reason.

The point I'm trying to say is why would you want to paint yourself the "Soviets" when you could be (in fact you were) the "British" to the Americans... right?

The alliance (or friendship) between A and Nat and Diane and her bf is as solid as the alliance between the twins and willnakaren-trio... I don't see the twins giving diane and drew more truthful promises than to karen or will for example... the twins are obviously playing on their own, which they don't need to at this point. For the time being, the whole group should focus only on their original plan to get rid of marvin and cowboy.... the backstabbing and cat-fighting will inevitably happen, no need to worry about that but now is not the time.

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