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    Quote Originally Posted by r0adkill View Post
    You have to remember, even though ABC made Bentley look like an asshole just like they did with Rego, Roselyn, etc., he is of the LDS religion so I don't think he would be banging any of the girls. I also don't think he would do the show to find a wife since he shouldn't marry a non LDS girl anyway. He would only do the show for the money and the fame. But isn't that what 99% of the people do this show for anyway?
    I didn't know his faith, but regardless of what his religion may be, doesn't mean he practices it. After what he said about having Ashley tickle his pickle, even though he had no physical attraction to her at all, I don't think he'd have any trouble banging any of the girls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babycakee View Post
    Mike Fleiss has hit rock bottom for this (CH is just another puppet master of him, imo) and so has this show. Why waste so much time on a "has been" instead of one the great remaining men? This season stinks of set up to me. I hope I can say that here... if not, my apologies.
    I feel exactly as you do, on all accounts. This season is failing for me in so many ways. There are some seemingly really great, nice guys left...and from what the show is focusing on, Ashley frankly does not deserve them. Bentley is not entertaining to watch or hear about. Whether the show is actively participating in Ashley being played or manipulating everything we've seen to make it seem something it wasn't in real life, I don't know. Either way, I'm not a fan. I'm pretty much done for the season.

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    Re: 6/13 Show Thread Episode 4 *West Coast Spoilers*

    Quote Originally Posted by r0adkill View Post
    You have to remember, even though ABC made Bentley look like an asshole just like they did with Rego, Roselyn, etc., he is of the LDS religion so I don't think he would be banging any of the girls. I also don't think he would do the show to find a wife since he shouldn't marry a non LDS girl anyway. He would only do the show for the money and the fame. But isn't that what 99% of the people do this show for anyway?
    Yeah, it's weird. Some blog pointed out that at the end of the first two episodes, when the other guys were toasting Ashley with champagne, Bentley had water in his glass. And yet he says all these trashy things about her behind her back. What the...? I've had Mormons for friends before, and they were the sweetest, nicest people you could imagine. If Bentley does claim to be LDS, then it's in name only. The LDS Church is probably embarrassed about how he's portraying them.

    And Connorsmom, I couldn't agree more about Ashley not deserving these guys. Couldn't we just pick one to be TB and FF to the next show?
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    ...I've had Mormons for friends before, and they were the sweetest, nicest people you could imagine. If Bentley does claim to be LDS, then it's in name only. The LDS Church is probably embarrassed about how he's portraying them....
    Amen to that! Then again, I'm a woman who's embarrassed by Ashley's [and others'] portrayal of women. Oh well.
    I used to work for a "church" that tried to proselytize LDS members (and others) -- uggghhh! so not proud of that part of my life! -- and, really, I used to get in trouble for telling my bosses to either leave them alone -- or, if they were going to bug them, at least listen and learn.
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    Honestly I turn to this site for other eyes better than mine to sleuth and make pretty interesting guesses along the way. and I like spoilers, rumors....true or not!
    For me, not watching as religiously has little to do with Ashley and everything to do with the callousness of producers who took a beautiful and smart girl, with some insecurities, and they have exploited every fear she must have expressed to them. Bentley is nasty but its worse that she wasn't shown the tape and had the chance to salvage some of her pride by shaming him. They have DONE NOTHING to help her get over it, know the truth and kick him to the curb on her own. And the ROAST was just plain cruel. So I am not watching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunny73 View Post
    Honestly I turn to this site for other eyes better than mine to sleuth and make pretty interesting guesses along the way. and I like spoilers, rumors....true or not!
    For me, not watching as religiously has little to do with Ashley and everything to do with the callousness of producers who took a beautiful and smart girl, with some insecurities, and they have exploited every fear she must have expressed to them. Bentley is nasty but its worse that she wasn't shown the tape and had the chance to salvage some of her pride by shaming him. They have DONE NOTHING to help her get over it, know the truth and kick him to the curb on her own. And the ROAST was just plain cruel. So I am not watching.
    Such good points. Ashley was a goldmine for this franchise: an open book of emotion. When someone can't play their cards close to the chest, they open themselves for exploitation in Bachelor-world.

    But I do pause. For a few reasons. Because mainly the Bentley thing reeks of production. Not only was Ashley "warned" about Bentley, but that warning was that he was only there to promote his business. I don't even know what he does! Either he's a truly maniacal guy who enjoyed fooling everyone, or he was edited into this supreme villain. His comments are often presented as VOs or chopped up PIs that are responding to some producer's question. That production didn't show her the footage of his words especially when she was desperately struggling to let him go makes me wonder if there was nothing to show until they spliced it all together.

    The footage of Bentley with Ashley doesn't show a truly heartless guy, but maybe he really was an outstanding player/master manipulator/sociopath. This scheme is entirely possible since production had the goods on Ed's Chicago lovers, Rego's girlfriend, and Frank's girlfriend, and kept those under the rug until they could create maximum effect. Maybe they knew Bentley was trouble but thought it genius. Or maybe the whole scheme, including Ashley's obsession, was part of the saga to make this season interesting;part of me thinks that both Bentley and Ashley are "in" on this crap.

    Anyway, just as Bentley and Ashley only knew each other for 8 days or so, still being hung up on him 4-5 days later (the time of the 5th epi) isn't entirely unreasonable. If this Bentley thing isn't a ruse, I feel sorry for her F1 esp. as he watches this season.

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    Given how dull this season is, even with the manufactured drama, I'm getting the feeling that this season is simply a set up for Ashley to participate in the next season of Dancing With the Stars.

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    Re: 6/13 Show Thread Episode 4 *West Coast Spoilers*

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    Amen to that! Then again, I'm a woman who's embarrassed by Ashley's [and others'] portrayal of women. Oh well.
    And amen to that!

    I also couldn't agree more with Sunny, however, that TPTB on this show are equally, if not more, to blame. I mean, poor Ashley just saw the side that Bentley chose to present to her. We forget that the people on this show are supposed to be cut off from family and friends. They're not supposed to be having any contact with the outside world, so how in the heck would Ashley know any differently?

    I'm more disgusted with the producers who have probably been laughing their heads off out of all the ratings they're getting. It's disgusting and, as I said earlier, almost pornographic the way they've put Ashley's suffering out there for all of us to see without doing a thing to stop it.

    I also wonder about the men in the house. In his exit interview, Jeff the Mask said he was Bentley's roommate, and that Pinto never made a secret of the fact that he was using Ashley. Did he try to warn Ashley? Did any of the other guys? Or did they think it was hopeless?
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    Re: Jeff and/or the other Bachelors warning Ashley about Bentley: I can recall over the past years, there were many instances where "contestants" who spoke negatively about another contestant to the lead, then found themselves on the outside looking in -- in other words, being sent home. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Columbia,
    You are absolutely correct.
    Whenever a "tattler" tried to tell the Bachelor / Bachelorette in question, she or he was very soon dismissed.
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