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    Quote Originally Posted by lisamill36;3630479;
    You would need to speak with him about that. Just know he doesn't feel humiliated, had moved on and is very happy. Remember the ATFR act was to an extent an act showcasing him as the next bachelor
    Hi, LISA, thanks for the bolded part. I think as a fan, that's the most important thing for me to know. I think it will be a good thing if Reid's the next Bachelor, hopefully it will attract more quality women to apply. Please advise him to get a good lawyer to draw up a good contract for him.

    Quote Originally Posted by jlccaz;3630474;
    I'm actually at a loss to conjure up a single example of a dismissed F2 or F3 who is still sad/licking wounds 3 months after filming wraps, one month after ATFR airs.
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    He'll have middle aged housewives and even grandmothers flagging him down and ooh'ing and ah'ing and following him on twitter and ogling at every personal photo he posts for YEARS to come.

    Just ask Andy Baldwin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by latergator;3630512;
    forgive me... are you implying above in the bolded statement that TPTB sent Ed home without a handler? with the thought that they would bring him back?

    or are you saying he did indeed leave the show on his own, changed his mind and asked to come back?

    in my first question he would still be part of the show, and there is no way in God's green earth they would allow him to be unchaperoned if he was still part of the show.

    and in my second question, he was not part of the show, and was not bound by their rules or regulations? that he may have actually had a change of heart as he said, and fought to come back?
    I was not implying that he did or did not have a handler. I was simply saying that they would not be announcing to all of Chicago that he had a handler if they knew he was coming back. All was made to look like he had officially left the show or else the plot twist wouldn't work. Everything that Ed did and said while at home only helped add to the story and create more drama, thus bringing in viewers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlccaz;3630459;
    There were a number of places where her blogs were publicly posted. Here's an example. PM me if you want to be directed where to find it. She did an extended round of Qs and As with internet fans in addition. I offer this excerpt for historical comparison (since Bach 10, nearly every F4-level contestant negotiates for or gets waiver of strict prohibitions on no outside contact, no computer/internet, etc.) Also, she was smart and a clever writer, and did a great job of "giving it back" to the people who mocked her EDIT. The shy Asian girl who sang the national anthem to the Officer and A Gentleman.

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    The Bachelor Day 5 – Escape

    It's impossible for me to live without my computer. It's really sad actually. I bring my computer to Sub-Saharan Africa. It never leaves my sight for more than a day. That may be the reason why I started twitching after 4 days. We all have limits. I found mine.

    While I shouldn't compare this to prison, I'm going to try. They call it "lock down." Absolutely no contact with the outside world aside from the bosses. I have a "handler" (I'd like to call her, my babysitter) across the hall from me. Before this weekend, I didn't know what a handler was.

    According to the dictionary, the word "handler" means:
    noun
    1. [usu. with adj.] a person who handles or deals with certain articles or commodities
    2. a person who trains or has charge of an animal
    3. a person who trains or manages another person

    Sadly, after this weekend, I think definition number 1 or number 2 is more fitting. I feel more like a commodity or an animal.

    If I need to get ice from down the hall, the handler will get it for me. If I am thirsty, she walks me down the hall to get soda. When I want to work out, she clears the gym and schedules me in so I will be alone. If there is a meeting, she escorts me and stays in the room until the meeting is completed. I asked her if she could to wipe my a** too – she didn't find that too amusing.

    It seemed relaxing for the first 2 hours – no one to bother me, work out privileges, a good book, internal medicine to study, and a nice comfortable bed. That got old after I realized that I was trapped. No wonder kids with nothing to do find trouble. If I were in a prison, I'd probably fight someone just out of sheer boredom. Taped a sign on my door saying "Help me, I'm drowning in boredom." They also didn't find that too amusing.

    It wasn't an extremely difficult escape, although somewhat nerve racking, given what I was risking. I didn't think I was such an adrenaline junkie, but today reaffirmed it.

    After the big production last night, or this morning- however you want to look at it – I went to sleep at around 7:00am. But the Sudafed and caffeine IVs throughout the evening shoot kept me awake throughout the ordeal but also woke up at 10:00am, which was when I planned the get-a-way. The crew and the guards would still be asleep, and even if they weren't, no one would bother to wake me up. Today was our Sunday – our day of rest.

    A couple of days ago, I had already checked out whether or not there were cameras in the halls or if I were being taped, unknowingly. At that time, the idea of being taped in these halls was eliminated but I decided not to break out that day for fear of the immediate consequences.

    Today, however, seemed like the perfect day and time to escape. My peephole for the past few days has been the light at the end of my tunnel, my vision to freedom, a glimmer of hope that there is an outside world.

    As I prepared my escape, my face was makeupless, hair in a bun, scrubby clothing on with bandana and glasses to add to my disguise (or my real self, who they also wouldn't recognize). With backpack in hand, I first peered my head out to make sure the hall was deserted. When one is trying to escape from a hotel, the little noises seem to be amplified by a megaphone. When I used to sneak out as a teenager in high school, as I closed the door behind me, I would turn the knob so the door couldn't slam. With a hotel room door, you can't do that. When door is closed, the entire hall can hear it. I waited for the perfect moment so my handler wouldn't get suspicious when my door slammed shut. While the cleaners' vacuum cleaners were on high to add to the noise in the hall, I made for the staircase furthest from the elevator.

    The 10 flights of stairs down was the easy part. The cobwebs and dust abound reassured me that no Hollywooder was going to find me in this descending hole. Past the lobby level, I slid out through the lower level. As I approached the door, I heard a rattling of keys. The creaking of a door was followed by the beautiful sound of closure.

    This door opened up to another maze, which tested my seriously impaired navigational skills. Each exit door or sign offered me hope to a successful escape, but one after another red signs assured me that not only would I be caught, the fire alarm and department would also arrive shortly.

    Denial after denial, I finally found an opening. With a brisk pace, I walked out a back parking lot to air that tasted like cold water after days of endless thirst. Normally Los Angeles is not a haven for cabs, but in this world, a line of cabs appeared within seconds.

    When the driver sped away, I slouched and ducked my head out of view. I was in the clear, for now.

    Luckily, the show is was filmed in my backyard so the cab ride home took minutes. Scurrying out of the cab and up my stairs, I was constantly paranoid that some sort of alarm would go off or a helicopter would spot me. They made me so paranoid about the outside world I was developing agoraphobia.

    Home sweet home, or should I say, computer sweet computer.

    I grabbed my hat, another book and most importantly, my precious companion Mac. I felt like I was robbing my own room. Within minutes, I packed up again and was out the door. The driver hadn't even turned his engine off when I jumped back inside.

    With only a pit stop by Panda Express, I bought some cheap food before going back to lockdown.

    As I rushed back to the hotel, I had the cabby drop me off in the back of the hotel. Again, I tried every possible door to get in, saving the front entrance as a last resort. There are well over 50 crew members in this hotel and if one saw me outside of my room with out my babysitter, I'd get kicked off.

    Unfortunately, I found no other entrance. And right when I walked in, I tried to find a stairwell. But alas, my navigation skills failed me again. I gave up and decided to risk it by going up the main elevator.

    Right as I pressed the up button, the elevator opened and a crew member walked out. Luckily I had put on my hat, ducked my head, and all of you know that I'm a totally different person with my scrubby look verses evening gown attire.

    The elevator went straight up to the 10th floor without stopping. I again, looked around the corner to make sure there were no spies or enemies in sight and I bolted for my room.

    Insert key card, green light, and safe again in my lockdown unit. A part of me feels insane for needing my computer but my computer makes me feel sane again.

    Since I'm moving to a mansion tomorrow, I'm not sure if I will be able to correspond again for a while. They already took my phone away, I don't know if they are going to take my books and journal away too – let's hope not, for everyone's sake.

    Miss you all.
    Tina
    She is a very good writer and bottomline is you can escape the handlers if you are savvy. And Ed sure seemed to get extended a whole lot of leeway just from what we know for sure. One of my favourite stories is how 2 guys from Rockstar INXS escaped the mansion, they just had to get out and head to a bar or strip club [there was plenty of booze in the mansion however ] but unbeknownst to them the first bar they found was a gay bar and the production staff were right behind them. They did not get into trouble because in fact the band was impressed by the rebellious behaviour which is very rock n roll. And Bachelor parlance they were clearly F1 and F2 in any event.

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    Re: Bachelorette 5 Media Thread - Jillian

    Quote Originally Posted by jlccaz;3630474;
    I'm actually at a loss to conjure up a single example of a dismissed F2 or F3 who is still sad/licking wounds 3 months after filming wraps, one month after ATFR airs. I challenge anyone. I didn't watch "Moana" season, but people sometimes say she was sad. But as I have posted again and again, they ALL go on to a better place, and mostly scratch their heads thinking, WHAT WAS I THINKING?!?!?

    I so agree about the humiliation comment you make. Reid wasn't humiliated at all. Not in front of Jillian and the cameras, not at the ATFR, and not now. He did nothing to be ashamed of, so why would he be humiliated, and it's made him a Cult Figure (as F3/F2 status invariably does). He'll have middle aged housewives and even grandmothers flagging him down and ooh'ing and ah'ing and following him on twitter and ogling at every personal photo he posts for YEARS to come.

    Just ask Andy Baldwin.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky22;3630466;
    This doesn't make much sense to me based on information in this thread that he was manipulated by producers telling him Jillian was sorry she let him go, wanted him back, felt she had made a mistake, etc. If someone comes back believing all that, led to believe she changed her mind and would choose him, only to be told by her that she's in love with someone else whom she will not let go, after flying all the way back there, buying a ring, getting down on one knee, etc., how could he NOT feel at least somewhat humiliated??

    Perhaps the better words to described how he felt was used, angry, betrayed.

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    Isn't there some discrepancy with the statement: "...thought this last season was an abortion" and "ABC is getting a kick out of this...they love the buzz." THe ratings were not bad, so neither NEXT nor ABC would be unhappy about this. Maybe the network has cognitive dissonance. I just think some of the leaks and information doesn't seem to be cohesive, and this is not just the Ed rumors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlsmom;3630455;
    Thanks, I'll check that out. It ONLY took them what 4 days?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lavender1960;3630534;
    Perhaps the better words to described how he felt was used, angry, betrayed.
    Those strong words/emotions describe fans not participants. The participants have the benefit of having the "EUREKA" post show epiphany that everything that was told to them by the Lead or more abundantly by the producers was for the purpose of producing TV Entertainment, not finding a life mate. They are able as a consequence to quickly shed any emotions they felt during filming. The Unreality falls away.

    Reid will either be offered/accept the chance to "sparkle" in the limelight as the Lead himself (if he has Hollywood Bug, as so many of them do), or he'll resume regular programming (a la Brad Womack).

    Reid has a Hollywood/modeling side, no one should be deluded about that for one second. Whether his Regular Self or Limelight Self wins out remains to be seen IMO. I could see him taking either path. Such suspense.

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    Re: Bachelorette 5 Media Thread - Jillian

    If one hops onto the Grassy Knoll, was Ed allowed to hang himself or was he just more devious than his handlers. Does that depend on whether you think he was a ringer from Day 1?

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    Re: Bachelorette 5 Media Thread - Jillian

    Quote Originally Posted by lavender1960;3630534;
    Perhaps the better words to described how he felt was used, angry, betrayed.
    Towards TPTB or Jill or both?

    Will that influence his decision about being the next Bachelor?

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