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Old 07-23-2008, 11:09 AM   #721
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Actually, I think many Jason fans at FORT, including myself, do not want him, or have mixed feelings about him being the next bachelor. We want to see him happy, finding the woman who will love him (and Ty) unconditionally, and we don't want him to be manipulated by Fleiss on TV.
About him being on the limelight...I think most of it is local stuff. Let's face it, last I checked, he has almost 6,000 friends on his myspace page, and I don't think any of them will mind seeing/hearing about him daily . Hey, I never get tired of looking at his pictures! (Don't tell DH )
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Old 07-23-2008, 11:50 AM   #722
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Jason is currently employed. That's a plus. "What do you want to be when you grow up?" is such an awkward topic for ice-breaking at televised cocktail party.
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Old 07-23-2008, 11:55 AM   #723
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First time posting on a Jason thread. I am a Jeremy supporter and know the family so yes, I have a legitimate bias and I should not have to apologize for that. I haven't read all the posts here so if this type of question has been answered, I apologize for re-hashing. I think that Jeremy and Jason ARE wonderful Bachelors (the real life kind) and will make someone real happy one day. I know Jeremy could handle the rigors (?) of the actual show. The dating multiple girls at one time component in order to ultimately find the right one. He has that ability and analytical skill to breakdown each woman and make a good decision for eliminations. I did not see anything in Jason's edit that leads me to believe he has this characteristic. Its very similar to a 'player' mentality w/ a twist. Maybe Jason is or was but he seems like the hopeless romantic type now. Where he will fall for one and only one and would struggle with creating a 'story' for several other women on the show. And I think in real life that is ideal but does that work for a show? Does fabricating a relationship work for Jason and for Ty? I guess I see Jason having a more difficult time personally as well as with his son being involved - creating romances where they may not exist. The dude wants one girl for sure. Secondly, what are his hobbies? What will all his group dates and special outings be like? Will they all be about Ty? Will America like that week after week? Again, I obviously have a bias towards Jeremy and I mean absolutely no disrespect. The posters on Jeremy's thread can confirm that about me. I just see the Jason show being heavily focused on a child and on a father looking for one and who probably is good at picking out 'one'....but possibly not FOUR! I won't go into the Jeremy pros/cons since this thread is about Jason but if you want me too, go to his thread and I'd be happy too. It would just have to be a post that I actually read! If Jason doing the show is about money on the other hand, then ABC should just pay him for creating so much hype, regardless of whether or not he does the Bachelor! Ty deserves a big college fund!!! Blessings,
Do you really see Jason as a hopeless romantic and Jeremy isn't? I thought Jason and Deanna had more of a real interaction then Jeremy and Deanna did. I thought Jason and Jeremy both had a romantic idealistic approach. However, while Jeremy and Deanna shared a bond about their Mother's passings, Jeremy shared with Deanna, more then back she seemed to share back.

When she decided to share with someone it was Jason. I guess I felt I agreed with the comment, that Jeremy approached Deanna like "white on rice" from day one, without really even considering if they were compatible or not. Which I really didn't think they were. To me I kept wondering, is Jeremy approaching this like he approaches everything in life, like a goal, and he is an achiever so I think somewhere the goal of winning Deanna, got blurred with feelings of love. I don't doubt he fell in love with her, but I think he was so caught up in the process of winning her, he never really stopped to think if it would have been a good relationship or not. I didn't think Deanna and Jeremy were fun. Jason and Deanna, one sided feelings or not, were a fun couple. She glowed when they were together, and laughed, and they both had a tremendous spirit towards life.

When they had Jeremy's HTD, it was like he was living this somber, life of solitude in his perfect bachelor apartment and I thought this guy has been through so much, but at the same time he seemed emotionally stuck. You are his friend and know him. Maybe this isn't an accurate depiction of his lifestyle, but when he said that Deanna and his brothers / sister in law were the first people he ever had over for dinner. I felt like this guy hasn't begun living yet, esp. socially.

Also even with the other guys Jeremy didn't seem to bond as much, like in the group setting. So maybe he'd have a difficult time in a group setting with a bunch of women since he's the one on one type, to have to deal socially with a bunch of women (sometimes catty and competitive) vying for him. I can see Jason, who is the type of person that gets along with everyone, (men, women, parents, Grandparents children) kind of dealing with that on a more experienced level.

I'm still for Jason, to be the next Bachelor if it could be done right, without dragging Ty into it too much.

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Old 07-23-2008, 12:02 PM   #724
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Jason said "I wish they showed more of that moment." Which is why I used the word "moment'

Au contraire...I am NOT a huge DeAnna fan. I am a "fan" of NEW people on reality shows...I don't like retreads, repeats, rehashs and "all star editions" of any show.

My point here is to point out the manipulation by Fleiss and the way people fall for it

The idea that somehow he would decide to edit Jason's potential season "favorably" has NO merit and nothing to back it up at all....IF Fleiss was going to do that, why not edit De's season favorably??? Broken hearted De, rejected 2x by Brad....yet he did not..

That new interview with De and Jesse, where she clearly states that they had edited it to hide the romance between her and Jesse, and his statements too really prove my point.

This show wants to show a heartbroken loser as well as a love story....Jason seemed more preturbed than heart broken. IF you remember Matt and Meredith, I think HE was truly heartbroken...he refused to do more promo/appearences/interviews after the intital atfr show....he stated he was done with it, hurt, would never be the bachelor....I have read where he moved on and saw pics of him with his fiancee a year or so later....he refused the limelight

Jason on the other hand is NOT refusing the limelight...his choice...but let me state that I will be the first to snark on his season ....I can only imagine the stuff Fleiss will play with his tricks and illusions LOL
Okay first of all we all need to remember what DeAnna said in the DTA about the editing. She herself said that the edits were correct. She was happy with the edit. IMO if there was a real deep love story here then it would have been shown.

As for Jason his heart was broken, I don't know how it couldn't of been more obvious that he was stunned with what happened. Jason said that he thought he was the one. Now there is a reason that he felt that way for sure. As far as him enjoying the limelight I am not seeing it, but whatever. He is overwhelmed by the responses he is getting from fans. I hardly see that as loving the limelight.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:13 PM   #725
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Do you really see Jason as a hopeless romantic and Jeremy isn't? I thought Jason and Deanna had more of a real interaction then Jeremy and Deanna did. I thought Jason and Jeremy both had a romantic idealistic approach. However, while Jeremy and Deanna shared a bond about their Mother's passings, Jeremy shared with Deanna, more then back she seemed to share back.

When she decided to share with someone it was Jason. I guess I felt I agreed with the comment, that Jeremy approached Deanna like "white on rice" from day one, without really even considering if they were compatible or not. Which I really didn't think they were. To me I kept wondering, is Jeremy approaching this like he approaches everything in life, like a goal, and he is an achiever so I think somewhere the goal of winning Deanna, got blurred with feelings of love. I don't doubt he fell in love with her, but I think he was so caught up in the process of winning her, he never really stopped to think if it would have been a good relationship or not. I didn't think Deanna and Jeremy were fun. Jason and Deanna, one sided feelings or not, were a fun couple. She glowed when they were together, and laughed, and they both had a tremendous spirit towards life.

When they had Jeremy's HTD, it was like he was living this somber, life of solitude in his perfect bachelor apartment and I thought this guy has been through so much, but at the same time he seemed emotionally stuck. You are his friend and know him. Maybe this isn't an accurate depiction of his lifestyle, but when he said that Deanna and his brothers / sister in law were the first people he ever had over for dinner. I felt like this guy hasn't begun living yet, esp. socially.

Also even with the other guys Jeremy didn't seem to bond as much, like in the group setting. So maybe he'd have a difficult time in a group setting with a bunch of women since he's the one on one type, to have to deal socially with a bunch of women (sometimes catty and competitive) vying for him. I can see Jason, who is the type of person that gets along with everyone, (men, women, parents, Grandparents children) kind of dealing with that on a more experienced level.

I'm still for Jason, to be the next Bachelor if it could be done right, without dragging Ty into it too much.
i would love to see jason back on my tv,jason is such a amazing man,why
not but i sure hope if they do.they absolutely give us a love story this time.
from start to finish,instead pulling the rug from under us so to speak.and
they will have to find a woman that is adventurous as jason is,show all
the adventures, like this time, going scuba diving that should have been
romantic but with the sharks it was just scary. you could tell deanna even
got scared and jason had to calm her down.
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i would love to see jason back on my tv,jason is such a amazing man,why
not but i sure hope if they do.they absolutely give us a love story this time.
from start to finish,instead pulling the rug from under us so to speak.and
they will have to find a woman that is adventurous as jason is,show all
the adventures, like this time, going scuba diving that should have been
romantic but with the sharks it was just scary. you could tell deanna even
got scared and jason had to calm her down.

yeah... dolphins would have been a wise and better choice!
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Okay first of all we all need to remember what DeAnna said in the DTA about the editing. She herself said that the edits were correct. She was happy with the edit. IMO if there was a real deep love story here then it would have been shown.
As for Jason his heart was broken, I don't know how it couldn't of been more obvious that he was stunned with what happened. Jason said that he thought he was the one. Now there is a reason that he felt that way for sure. As far as him enjoying the limelight I am not seeing it, but whatever. He is overwhelmed by the responses he is getting from fans. I hardly see that as loving the limelight.
She sure did say that and this was after she picked Jesse too. She sure can't keep up with her fabrications, maybe she needs to stop talking.
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I know Jeremy could handle the rigors (?) of the actual show. The dating multiple girls at one time component in order to ultimately find the right one. He has that ability and analytical skill to breakdown each woman and make a good decision for eliminations.

Didn't Jeremy himself imply that he was vastly mistaken about DeAnna -- that he "saw things in her that weren't there" or some such thing? Seems to me that he was mistaken not only about what she is like but about the relationship that existed between the two of them and about the depth of his own feelings for her. And there he only had *one* woman to analyze!

I'm not saying that he doesn't have great analytical skills. I'm sure that he does.

But it seems to me that the crazy situation of this very very fast-moving show where you're constantly being run about by producers and getting no real opportunity to encounter anyone in a normal way, combined with the crazy feelings and misperceptions and buried feelings that occur in all of us when love and sex are involved, means that no matter how good your analytical skills are, you're in danger of getting led down the garden path and utterly confused by a situation like the Bachelor.

There is literally no one I would bet on as being able to navigate this show with great success.

And I, for one, don't want to see any of the guys I liked from this season back on the show as The Bachelor (much as I enjoyed watching Jeremy, Jason, Graham, and others). The situation is just too nuts, too fast, and too unrealistic and too filled with neurotic whackos and fameseekers to be sure that any of them could navigate it successfully and happily. And since I like them, I don't want to see them go through that. (Plus, I think their chances of finding really high-quality great women is bigger in real life; why go on this show where at least half the people will be crazy?) Obviously, many others hvae a different view!
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She sure did say that and this was after she picked Jesse too. She sure can't keep up with her fabrications, maybe she needs to stop talking.
Geeze now there's a thought.
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And I, for one, don't want to see any of the guys I liked from this season back on the show as The Bachelor (much as I enjoyed watching Jeremy, Jason, Graham, and others). The situation is just too nuts, too fast, and too unrealistic and too filled with neurotic whackos and fameseekers to be sure that any of them could navigate it successfully and happily. And since I like them, I don't want to see them go through that. (Plus, I think their chances of finding really high-quality great women is bigger in real life; why go on this show where at least half the people will be crazy?) Obviously, many others hvae a different view!
That's exactly how I feel about another retread Bachelor. I liked all the guys this season, and don't want to see any of them receive any more backlash.
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