Jason - Bachelorette 4

[StanleyCupCanes]

Originally Posted by estygal4

Soo.....you are upset that DeAnna "broke" Jason's heart....but you want HIM to "do the best he can" at breaking another person's heart??? IMHO his heart was not all that broken, he seems to be pushing hard for the next Bachelor slot...bet it beats his day job in Seattle. Maybe he should go on the new show that is more realistic but less splashy "Must love Kids" or do a male version of it with other divorced/single dads??

Nah....IMHO Jason is angling for the air time that Fleiss's hoopla will provide.

Actually, it's the fans that are leading the charge, not Jason. He's wildly popular with the viewing audience and they are letting their voice be heard. I believe CH says "they'd be bona fide idiots not to consider him." He's being asked the question in interviews and moves on to the next topic. As Atem pointed out, most of these articles are based on one post-show conf call.

As far as his parenting choices, those are his to make. He appears to be a dedicated father and met with his child's pediatrician and a child psychologist about his participation in the show. I trust them to know the situation better than TV viewers. Based on CH's comments, ABC also appears to be considering working around his parenting situation in order to make it a go.

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[angelic_one2002]

Originally Posted by sunny_peach

I really have mixed feelings about him being the next bach. I think he is a really great guy, and I think he would be a great choice, but I hate to see what Fleiss would do with his edit as well as the Ty factor. Besides, in all honesty I am certian he could find his soulmate right before his eyes in Seattle.

Exactly how I feel, and have said. I like Jason. He'd be a really good catch, but he needs to find MsRight right there in Seattle, not on some reality tv show where he's putting himself out there for more scrutiny.

[estygal4]

I agree with Angelic, surely Jason has gotten enough emails and letters to find Ms Right right there in Seattle, since he claims he does not want to move from there?? Why the need to be back on my tv set LOL??

I still would like a Jason "fan" to explain to me how they would love to see him break someone else's heart (face it, that is a main premise of this show), how they would like to see him "lead someone else on", or watch another Fleiss edit of that premise....when they are soooo upset about the fact DeAnna felt more for Jesse and fell in love with him??

To be honest I was not even a huge DeAnna fan, I did feel sorry for her on the reunion with weirdo Brad, when he could not even answer her decently....however I realize that this show requires them to "lead on" people and "break someone's heart", to choose one and reject one.

I simply fail to see the illogic of some of Jason's fans who cry that his heart was broken yet are eager for him to not only break another woman/s heart but to drag his son around for the hoop de doo along the way??

[StanleyCupCanes]

Originally Posted by estygal4

I agree with Angelic, surely Jason has gotten enough emails and letters to find Ms Right right there in Seattle, since he claims he does not want to move from there?? Why the need to be back on my tv set LOL??

I still would like a Jason "fan" to explain to me how they would love to see him break someone else's heart (face it, that is a main premise of this show), how they would like to see him "lead someone else on", or watch another Fleiss edit of that premise....when they are soooo upset about the fact DeAnna felt more for Jesse and fell in love with him??

To be honest I was not even a huge DeAnna fan, I did feel sorry for her on the reunion with weirdo Brad, when he could not even answer her decently....however I realize that this show requires them to "lead on" people and "break someone's heart", to choose one and reject one.

I simply fail to see the illogic of some of Jason's fans who cry that his heart was broken yet are eager for him to not only break another woman/s heart but to drag his son around for the hoop de doo along the way??

I can't speak for all Jason fans but for me and the ones that I know is that we'd like to see him happy. As far as the outcry over the ending, the crux of the problem is
(1) the manner that she chose to reject him - letting him fully propose on bended knee - she allowed this happen with someone who had only treated her with kindness and respect. All along she said she had a big part in the way the show was produced so she could have stopped it. Yes, Jason would have to reject someone at this point, too, but I don't think he'd disrespect them.
(2) I highly doubt that Jason is going to mislead the women regarding what he is looking for as she did - not only Jason but Jeremy and the others as well. I can't see him shifting his entire mindset midstream. She changed her mind about what she wanted. Listen to her words at the beginning of the first episode. She left a trail of destruction without any consideration that her shift in focus might cause harm to others. Where's the humility and empathy? Some of the guys might have opted out earlier had she originally stated that what she was really looking for is a carefree, Hollywood spotlight, lifestyle.
(3) The editing failed everyone involved. It led the overwhelming majority to anticipate a certain outcome. The feedback is out there for ABC. It was a disservice to all involved. Hopefully, it's a lesson learned for the producers. Sure, there's always going to be ambiguity concerning the outcome but it doesn't have to be total darkness.

I don't think Jason needs The Bachelor as much as they need him after this past trainwreck. It's his life and his choice to make, however.

[bugsme3]

They have a saying the truth is there somewhere between him and her and the editor. No one but Jason has come out and said he fully propose, we did not see that. I have my opinion on that but wont say. I find it ironic that he audition for the show on his way out in the limo, tells me alot, but if he gets the show bring it on I will be here to see him fall off that pedastal he is on when he walk a mile in Deanna shoe

[StanleyCupCanes]

Originally Posted by bugsme3

They have a saying the truth is there somewhere between him and her and the editor. No one but Jason has come out and said he fully propose, we did not see that. I have my opinion on that but wont say. I find it ironic that he audition for the show on his way out in the limo, tells me alot, but if he gets the show bring it on I will be here to see him fall off that pedastal he is on when he walk a mile in Deanna shoe

She admitted her culpablity on ATFR in her infamous "I was caught up in the moment" statement - staying true to her self involved nature that was put on full display throughout the show.

His comments post-FRC weren't any different than any other rejected suitor on this show. He's taken the high road in comparison to some of the others that left before him. She and Jesse are the ones on his myspace site begging for attention. She was on the show twice - she should have been much more wise to Fleiss' game and represented herself better.

It's all good though - I think most everyone who is a fan of the guys is thankful for the outcome now.

[chaslom4]

Originally Posted by StanleyCupCanes

She admitted her culpablity on ATFR in her infamous "I was caught up in the moment" statement - staying true to her self involved nature that was put on full display throughout the show.

His comments post-FRC weren't any different than any other rejected suitor on this show. He's taken the high road in comparison to some of the others that left before him. She and Jesse are the ones on his myspace site begging for attention. She was on the show twice - she should have been much more wise to Fleiss' game and represented herself better.

It's all good though - I think most everyone who is a fan of the guys is thankful for the outcome now.

I also believe that BabyfaceC made a statement in one of his posts that he was also told that she let Jason go through the entire proposal before she stopped him. My guess was he was told that by Jeremy.

[Valentine56780]

Originally Posted by StanleyCupCanes

She admitted her culpablity on ATFR in her infamous "I was caught up in the moment" statement - staying true to her self involved nature that was put on full display throughout the show.

His comments post-FRC weren't any different than any other rejected suitor on this show. He's taken the high road in comparison to some of the others that left before him. She and Jesse are the ones on his myspace site begging for attention. She was on the show twice - she should have been much more wise to Fleiss' game and represented herself better.

It's all good though - I think most everyone who is a fan of the guys is thankful for the outcome now.

I agree with you! Jason and especially Ty are much better off. I personally like DeAnna and Jesse being together. I have rewatched some of the episodes with the view that Jesse is the one in the end, and even though she had strong feelings for Jason, it was Jesse she fell in love with. Jason is a great guy but I hope he doesn't do the next season of the Bachelor because the paparazzi is "ridiculous" and will stop at nothing to get their shot of Jason or Ty. The little one does not deserve to be pushed into that life!!

[estygal4]

The people on this show who truly have a broken heart don't want anything more to do with it IMHO. Matt, in Meredith's season seemed to be much more hurt than Jason. He refused all offers to be the next bachelor in NO uncertain terms.Jeremy was more hurt than Jason. Jason did "audition" for the next show in the limo IMHO.

The "proposal" was NOT of DeAnna's choosing, and again we really don't know if it went all the way through, this also was another Fleiss move.

We might very well find that Jason does change his mind throughout the next show....and what if he does??? Love is not a shopping list IMHO. You can write down your "wants" but when chemistry comes into the equation that list might get shredded. It happened to DeAnna.

IMHO the reality that "hurt" Jason was returning to his J-O-B back in Seattle, he even said that he had used up his leave time and had to get right back to work. Must be a drag. No wonder he is looking for new opportunities instead of searching for Ms Right back there in Seattle where he claims he wants to be.

[StanleyCupCanes]

Originally Posted by estygal4

The people on this show who truly have a broken heart don't want anything more to do with it IMHO. Matt, in Meredith's season seemed to be much more hurt than Jason. He refused all offers to be the next bachelor in NO uncertain terms.Jeremy was more hurt than Jason. Jason did "audition" for the next show in the limo IMHO.

The "proposal" was NOT of DeAnna's choosing, and again we really don't know if it went all the way through, this also was another Fleiss move.

We might very well find that Jason does change his mind throughout the next show....and what if he does??? Love is not a shopping list IMHO. You can write down your "wants" but when chemistry comes into the equation that list might get shredded. It happened to DeAnna.

IMHO the reality that "hurt" Jason was returning to his J-O-B back in Seattle, he even said that he had used up his leave time and had to get right back to work. Must be a drag. No wonder he is looking for new opportunities instead of searching for Ms Right back there in Seattle where he claims he wants to be.

Of course we didn't see the full proposal, it would have made her look like even more of a villain in her own show. Due to the ATFR leak, Fleiss had clued into the negative feedback that was coming his way by the time the show aired. As far as a list goes, she mentions in her conf call that she used one to make her decision. It's certainly her perogative to make the best choice for herself but it can be done with some grace and humility.

As far as Jason leaving Seattle, CH said they're seriously considering filming the show there and making a number of changes to the process to acommodate his situation. It could be a totally different show from what they've beein airing in the past. Considering that the show isn't in the fall line up and is now considered to be a replacement show by the network in the spring, it seems they need to make some changes to keep it around.