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Old 08-02-2008, 01:41 PM   #411
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Wow ~ what a beautiful picture!

The background is breath taking and they look adorable in their coordinating outfits. Love that Jesse's snowboard has pink on it!
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Old 08-02-2008, 02:44 PM   #412
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Of course in B12 we got to see a "love story" unfold from the get-go, and its up to you to believe whether it was a "true love story" or not; no-one was happy with that scenario. So I guess he's darned if he does, and darned if he doesn't.
Well, there is some middle ground between the 2 scenarios of Bachelor 12 and Bachelorette 4. Fleiss could choose to go that route. He could still show us the love story, but create enough suspense to keep us guessing till the end.
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Old 08-02-2008, 05:46 PM   #413
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Well, there is some middle ground between the 2 scenarios of Bachelor 12 and Bachelorette 4. Fleiss could choose to go that route. He could still show us the love story, but create enough suspense to keep us guessing till the end.
That would be my preference as well!
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Maybe I shouldn't post before catching up on the thread...but...

If you look at De's facial expression when Jesse got out of the limo that first night, you can see the beginning of the magic. :
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Old 08-03-2008, 02:46 AM   #415
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Wow ~ what a beautiful picture!

The background is breath taking and they look adorable in their coordinating outfits. Love that Jesse's snowboard has pink on it!
Besides Jesse & De - the Oregon Cascades are beautiful. I lived up near there for quite some time. Still ski in the cascades yearly.
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Well, there is some middle ground between the 2 scenarios of Bachelor 12 and Bachelorette 4. Fleiss could choose to go that route. He could still show us the love story, but create enough suspense to keep us guessing till the end.
I agree! Instead many of us felt like this
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I agree! Instead many of us felt like this
and the rest of us felt like this

PS..but do wish we could have seen more hot scenes of these two !
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Sorry if this has been posted already -- I didn't see it, so I'm putting it here. It looks to me to be a pretty solid 2005 article describing the (lack of!) money in snowboarding and how that spurred creation of Jesse's organization.


http://www.westword.com/content/printVersion/226305

'Being a professional snowboarder is far more about attitude than it is about cash. At January's Winter X Games, the internationally televised pinnacle of the sport, winners -- most of whom paid their own way to Glitter Gulch -- walked away with legitimate prizes, up to $20,000 for a top spot. But Pat Bridges, editor of Snowboarding magazine, estimates that on average, pros earn between $18,000 and $30,000 per year -- more Le Peep than LeBron.

Drop down the list, from superstar to mere touring pro, and the rewards are even more paltry. Lesser competitions pay prizes calculated in the hundreds, not thousands, of dollars....

....Sponsorship deals, too, are usually more about visibility than liquidity. Got a deal with gear behemoth Burton? Awesome! But in all likelihood, what that really means is that you get a free deck once a year, maybe a pair of new boots thrown in.....Add in the high costs of the sport -- lift tickets, competition entry fees -- and "you see a lot of incredibly good riders who live off their couches," says Jesse Csincsak, a mid-level pro who lives in Breckenridge. ....

....Rather than wait for sponsors to find them, a handful of riders have flipped the tables and become sponsors themselves. Danny Kass, winner of last month's Vans Superpipe competition in Lake Tahoe, is one of the few riders who actually make a living at the sport. But he also sponsors his own team through his apparel company, Grenade Gloves.

...."I got sick of trying to promote myself," Csincsak says. "I got real tired of being the guy sending out riding photos, saying, 'Hey, look at what I can do.'" So he tried something even more radical: He started a non-profit foundation to give money away to aspiring competitive snowboarders struggling to pay for their snow jones.....

....Aside from the mountains, the first thing Csincsak noticed after moving west was the social stratum. "There's two classes here -- your rich and your not-rich," he says. "There's really no in-between." He started giving away some of his ski days to more down-and-out friends. It felt good. So in 2001 he started J-SAK Snowboarding, a 501(c)(3) corporation dedicated to giving handouts to deserving riders.

....Dinners and other fundraisers -- sales of snowboarding calendars, mostly -- have provided J-SAK with an operating budget of about $10,000 per year................

Baker-Haight, who is 25, applied after she happened to notice Csincsak's truck parked in Lake George.....Csincsak called her a few days later and invited her for an interview. "We went riding through Peak 8's pipe," Baker-Haight recalls. ....Four runs later, she had a new sponsor.....

The amount was typically small -- a $300 season pass, about $500 in professional-organization membership dues and the promise to pay a handful of competition entry fees...."But every bit helps," she says, pointing out that the most she's ever won at a competition was $100. "I wouldn't be here now if it weren't for Jesse."'
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Sorry if this has been posted already -- I didn't see it, so I'm putting it here. It looks to me to be a pretty solid 2005 article describing the (lack of!) money in snowboarding and how that spurred creation of Jesse's organization.


http://www.westword.com/content/printVersion/226305

'Being a professional snowboarder is far more about attitude than it is about cash. At January's Winter X Games, the internationally televised pinnacle of the sport, winners -- most of whom paid their own way to Glitter Gulch -- walked away with legitimate prizes, up to $20,000 for a top spot. But Pat Bridges, editor of Snowboarding magazine, estimates that on average, pros earn between $18,000 and $30,000 per year -- more Le Peep than LeBron.

Drop down the list, from superstar to mere touring pro, and the rewards are even more paltry. Lesser competitions pay prizes calculated in the hundreds, not thousands, of dollars....

....Sponsorship deals, too, are usually more about visibility than liquidity. Got a deal with gear behemoth Burton? Awesome! But in all likelihood, what that really means is that you get a free deck once a year, maybe a pair of new boots thrown in.....Add in the high costs of the sport -- lift tickets, competition entry fees -- and "you see a lot of incredibly good riders who live off their couches," says Jesse Csincsak, a mid-level pro who lives in Breckenridge. ....

....Rather than wait for sponsors to find them, a handful of riders have flipped the tables and become sponsors themselves. Danny Kass, winner of last month's Vans Superpipe competition in Lake Tahoe, is one of the few riders who actually make a living at the sport. But he also sponsors his own team through his apparel company, Grenade Gloves.

...."I got sick of trying to promote myself," Csincsak says. "I got real tired of being the guy sending out riding photos, saying, 'Hey, look at what I can do.'" So he tried something even more radical: He started a non-profit foundation to give money away to aspiring competitive snowboarders struggling to pay for their snow jones.....

....Aside from the mountains, the first thing Csincsak noticed after moving west was the social stratum. "There's two classes here -- your rich and your not-rich," he says. "There's really no in-between." He started giving away some of his ski days to more down-and-out friends. It felt good. So in 2001 he started J-SAK Snowboarding, a 501(c)(3) corporation dedicated to giving handouts to deserving riders.

....Dinners and other fundraisers -- sales of snowboarding calendars, mostly -- have provided J-SAK with an operating budget of about $10,000 per year................

Baker-Haight, who is 25, applied after she happened to notice Csincsak's truck parked in Lake George.....Csincsak called her a few days later and invited her for an interview. "We went riding through Peak 8's pipe," Baker-Haight recalls. ....Four runs later, she had a new sponsor.....

The amount was typically small -- a $300 season pass, about $500 in professional-organization membership dues and the promise to pay a handful of competition entry fees...."But every bit helps," she says, pointing out that the most she's ever won at a competition was $100. "I wouldn't be here now if it weren't for Jesse."'
Way to go Jesse
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Old 08-04-2008, 03:48 PM   #420
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Excellent article! I noticed this part:

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"Jesse is a very unusual athlete, in my book," says Patti Campana of Amherst, Ohio, Csincsak's home town. "His mind thinks different than other kids his age." When Csincsak asked Campana to be on the board of his new nonprofit, she agreed immediately.
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DeAnna and Jesse held their catered party at Patti Campana's home in Amherst a couple weeks ago. The local newspaper put a slideshow of photographs from that party on youtube and Campana is beaming with joy in several of the photos as she looks at Jesse and DeAnna, you can tell she is SO happy for the couple. It's sweet.
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