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Old 08-12-2008, 01:15 PM   #1171
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Never have I seen a more genuine man pour his heart out on National TV. Not just on the Bachelor...but where else have you seen this? My sense of reality is fully in check, I can assure you of that. Jeremy moved and touched this Hospice worker to join this site and still be posting on this thread...even today.

He has raised the bar of sincerity and honesty so high...that it will be extremely difficult for ABC to ever find someone like him again. Just on this site alone...I have heard privately from so many members who have shared their personal loss in life and telling me how Jeremy has helped them move on and open their hearts up once again.

If you have never introduced someone you loved, through a photo album, to someone else, then you will never understand the significance of it. Or the courage it took to do it. As this is "sacred ground" that he was sharing with all of us. So very sacred!!!

He shared with us a "universal" message of redemption and hope and love. There is no doubt, many, many people, (most of whom he will never hear from) who were inspired by his courage and humanity.

Price tag on "inspiration" please...

Indeed, he is a rare man in this world and should be applauded!!!!

My applause has never stopped...
I still get goose bumps thinking of when Jeremy was showing DeAnna the photo album.

It reminded me of when DeAnna showed Brad the album. (I remember all the negative comments about why she did that.

I felt DeAnna had time to heal so looking at the album, had more pleasant thouhts then sad ones. With Jeremy, I felt the pain was still very fresh. I felt that he had not yet gotten to the place that he could enjoy the happy memories without pain taking over. (I hope others understand what I mean.)

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I think D really appreciated the person Jeremy is she just didn't fall in love with him, I am sure he will find the one
I totally agree with you bizbachfan.

I know that way back when, I posted that I felt that DeAnna had a kinderedspirt like relationship with Jeremy. I think it may have taken DeAnna time to realize that this was not a lover type relationship but something else, even though she had feelings for Jeremy. I saw something special between them, but it did not feel like a love thing.

I do honestly believe they had a special bond because they had a connection of lost of their parents/mother. I am not saying that was the only connection or that was the only side to DeAnna or Jeremy, just that they clicked on that and were able to discuss and share some deep feelings that the other understood where they were coming from.
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Old 08-12-2008, 01:40 PM   #1172
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I know that way back when, I posted that I felt that DeAnna had a kinderedspirt like relationship with Jeremy. I think it may have taken DeAnna time to realize that this was not a lover type relationship but something else, even though she had feelings for Jeremy. I saw something special between them, but it did not feel like a love thing.

I do honestly believe they had a special bond because they had a connection of lost of their parents/mother. I am not saying that was the only connection or that was the only side to DeAnna or Jeremy, just that they clicked on that and were able to discuss and share some deep feelings that the other understood where they were coming from.
I agree, its obvious she cared for him a lot dare I say more than Jason...or maybe it was just different type connection, different intensity. But there was a reason she spared him and didn't take him to the f2, she said as much when he went to go back to talk to her, "i have enough respect for you to not drag you on..". I mean she very well could have taken Jeremy instead of Jason to the f2 and spared herself the horrible PR that she inevitably received for taking the single dad all the way and not selecting him.

I saw genuine emotion from her when she was explaining why they couldn't continue, you could tell she wanted there to be something more there.
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Old 08-12-2008, 02:05 PM   #1173
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I agree she felt Jeremy needed to go as he was too invested. As for Jason, she knew he had just seen his son recently, he chose to do the show etc. She had to have an f2 and I think she spared Jeremy on purpose
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Old 08-12-2008, 04:16 PM   #1174
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I did not say Jeremy was bitter. I was responding to cheekychook post at what I bolded below which why Jeremy should be more bitter, and my question in my post was why should Jeremy be bitter at the show.



I wonder why bitter feelings should be directed towards DeAnna and not TPTB.
Oops, sorry, in my haste, I misread your post!

Though I do think she led him on, and I do wish she would have shared the bar results with him, I don't have any bitter feelings towards DeAnna. She is human, and did and will make mistakes in life (as we all do), so I don't see the big deal. De, Jesse, and Jeremy have all moved on ~ sometimes I think it's just us fans that have a hard time moving forward.
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Old 08-12-2008, 04:42 PM   #1175
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Kresge,

I did not say Jeremy was bitter. I was responding to cheekychook post at what I bolded below which why Jeremy should be more bitter, and my question in my post was why should Jeremy be bitter at the show.



I wonder why bitter feelings should be directed towards DeAnna and not TPTB.
Just to clarify, I did not say Jeremy is bitter either---I said that IMO he has cause to be bitter, but he is not, because he is a bigger person than that. I said in the same position I think I would be bitter---that was me speaking for myself, not for him. The primary reason the word bitter even came up is in response to posts here that keep referring to Jeremy as a "sore loser" or his actions as "sour grapes"---and I do not see that behavior coming from him at all. There are contestants who have said very unflattering things about DeAnna since the show ended----Jeremy is not one of those contestants.
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Old 08-12-2008, 09:03 PM   #1176
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Just to clarify, I did not say Jeremy is bitter either---I said that IMO he has cause to be bitter, but he is not, because he is a bigger person than that. I said in the same position I think I would be bitter---that was me speaking for myself, not for him. The primary reason the word bitter even came up is in response to posts here that keep referring to Jeremy as a "sore loser" or his actions as "sour grapes"---and I do not see that behavior coming from him at all. There are contestants who have said very unflattering things about DeAnna since the show ended----Jeremy is not one of those contestants.
I agree. I never saw that behavior in Jeremy...ever. In fact, I saw a very hurt crushed man when he was sent home.
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Old 08-12-2008, 10:07 PM   #1177
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I agree. I never saw that behavior in Jeremy...ever. In fact, I saw a very hurt crushed man when he was sent home.
There is no doubt that Jeremy hurt upon her rejection but I'm still not certain whether it was his heart or his ego!
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Old 08-12-2008, 11:27 PM   #1178
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Personally I think Jeremy got very very caught up in the whole thing, the romance and the competition both. So it was probably both his heart and his ego that was crushed. I don't claim to know a lot about his background with relationships but I wonder if he's never really been rejected before? That could explain his bewilderment at Deanna cutting him. Maybe one of Jeremy's fans who knows could tell me if he's had his heart broken before (not sure how anyone could know this for sure though). I think he was probably confused and hurt, how much of each I don't know.
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Old 08-12-2008, 11:39 PM   #1179
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Just to clarify, I did not say Jeremy is bitter either---I said that IMO he has cause to be bitter, but he is not, because he is a bigger person than that. I said in the same position I think I would be bitter---that was me speaking for myself, not for him. The primary reason the word bitter even came up is in response to posts here that keep referring to Jeremy as a "sore loser" or his actions as "sour grapes"---and I do not see that behavior coming from him at all. There are contestants who have said very unflattering things about DeAnna since the show ended----Jeremy is not one of those contestants.
I understood you cheekychook.

I did not say you said he was bitter. I said why should he be bitter. Even in my quote that I quoted you I said that you said he should have been bitter.
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Old 08-13-2008, 12:42 AM   #1180
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This thread is now closed. There has been more than enough time for everyone to discuss their thoughts and settle all the debates in the nearly 6 weeks since the show ended. We will leave a Media thread where you are welcome to post new articles about the show participants, but that thread will be for media updates only. Thanks, everyone.
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