Graham - Bachelorette 4

[dream fan]

Originally Posted by Cailg

Do you remember the first one on one conversation during that first episode? I remember De biting her lip when Graham said he was an investor in bars. My first reaction was that De was thinking, wow, I am falling for another guy who invests in bars..what are the odds of that.

I also loved his natural and very sweet expression on his face when he stepped out of the limo. I think De fell for him right away.

I absolutely agree. It just had that kind of feel.

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[dream fan]

Originally Posted by lookinout

I just watched this scene for the 1st time Monday and when I saw it I thought "oh that's a great 1st meeting to playback when they're going over D&G's relationship @ the end of the show" Unfortunately it doen't look like he'll get that far but I shall live in denial a little bit longer.

But I luv that De told him that it was ok w/out the button. They had "it" from the 1st moment. And I luv that Graham got 2 kisses.

Another moment I luv is when they get back from their 1on1, after Graham says "thank u for a wonderful date, it was amazing" and they cut to Twilley...u can hear Graham say "u fixin me there" and De says "I don't want u to lose it" I just thought that was a adorable exchange between them. D&G

hey, i caught that too. i though i was the only one who heard that. Do you think Graham will be at the MTA?

[albean99]

Originally Posted by dream fan

hey, i caught that too. i though i was the only one who heard that. Do you think Graham will be at the MTA?

I missed what they said. I have a feeling that Graham won't be there but hope I'm wrong. If they want him there I think he has to go so it just depends.

I also love his expression when he got out of the limo. So adorable.

[lookinout]

I was also wondering if he'll be @ the MTA. I'm hoping no and that he's still in the running so-to-speak. But if he is @ MTA, it'll be very interesting to see what he has to say.

[pbmax]

Originally Posted by dream fan

That's a really good assessment, but I have to respectfully disagree where DeAnna's concerned.

I think that although she was hurt as a child in the various ways you mentioned, she is also seasoned and experienced enough to know what love is and what that feeling feels like. She has said that she knows what she wants.

That "may slip away any second, scary, dangerous" feeling that you spoke of is a part of love IMO. And I guess this is where our life experiences separate how we view things, but that feeling is natural in love or in the beginning of falling in love I should say. It has to be experienced in order to get to that next level. It's a gamble, and in a new relationship there are going to be feelings of fear, especially when you feel something so strongly. You are afraid it can be gone.

I just don't think it's fair to say that her feelings for Graham are somehow connected to her childhood pain. I think D&G have genuine feelings for each other, and to me their relationship represents the real feelings you experience when you begin to fall in love, but that's just my take.

I think that when you have a connection like I see with D&G, then you are cheating yourself not to explore it, no matter how it ends-good or bad. She feels like a giddy, school girl with him. She gets butterflies, and I think he feels the same way.

I think G is catching flack because he is not as vocal about his feelings, as he has said. He is a shy guy, but like he has also said, "I'm trying to be more of what you need." I believe he is. He seeks her out to talk. They seem to be able to have a healthy disagreement and talk about it and make up The whole eye contact bit I don't really get. Every conversation I've seen them have, and I've watched over and over, he is looking into her eyes with the exception of the hammock scene. And, a lot of people have attested to it being extremely difficult to make eye contact in the hammock. He's been caught checking her out. He's been seen practically in despair while she's with other guys. He can't stand the sight of anyone touching her so much that he turns away. To add, Jason has mentioned the connection on two occasions.

G is the guy for D in my book.

There is a VO of Graham saying, he never felt this way about anyone before, the way he feel about Dee. This might be the first time he has truely been in love and I think this is why this process is so hard for him. I hope they don't let this love slip away. I have faith they will reunite. Getting me a bottle of wine and a box of tissue for monday's show.

[Gilmoregirl]

Originally Posted by lookinout

wouldn't you? that man is YUMMY!!!

Yummy, sweet, sensitive, smart, charming southern gentleman....

My heart is gonna break for these two Monday. So sad that neither could take the risk...

[nuthinsayzluvin]

Originally Posted by fireflyer

I have never understood the whole Graham vibe... to me he just seems so awkward and highschoolish. His mom talks about 4-week girlfriends, but why assume he's got commitment issues? Maybe he just keeps getting dumped over and over. I don't know anybody who would date a guy for longer than a month if he never looked at her. Most girls like to feel they are dating a human.

What surprises me is that Deanna doesn't seem to notice the lack of eye contact. And also surprising is that even though his demands about not sharing upset her (and are soooo revealing about his true character), she keeps forgiving and forgetting. The things about him that seem like big red warning flags to me aren't registering with Deanna.

Is it a possibility that he was celibate?

would that change how we see his behavior...

[runnergirl2008]

I just found you all in the last couple of weeks - this group AMAZES me!

I am so embarrassed to admit that I am obsessed with Graham! Probably because I have a Graham of my own in my life, every time he's onscreen he reminds me of my hot-but-shy, unable-to-make-up-his-mind boy.

Anyway, a couple of my thoughts - forgive me if I don't quite get the hang of this site yet -

Is it a possibility that he was celibate? I am going to say, UM, NO! My guess is Graham has had plenty of "the sex" in his life, starting in high school. . And I doubt he's been dumped over and over - he just has that aura of a guy who makes girls crazy because they don't know how to read him. It's addictive, believe me, and I'm almost 10 years older than Deanna and have a ton more life experience.

There is a VO of Graham saying, he never felt this way about anyone before, the way he feel about Dee. Can I ask where this is? I don't remember seeing it. My personal interpretation is that he has feelings for her but is quite torn on a number of levels, including not being entirely over his last G/F, discomfort with the "process" and worrying whether he's ready to give De what she so clearly wants. He's not a bad guy and he wants to do the right thing, but he's not so sure what that is. That scene at the racetrack struck me as a continuation of a conversation that we didn't see - as someone else has stated, there are hundreds of hours of tape on the cutting room floor - a lot more happened with everyone than what we're permitted to view.

He would be under contract to do the MTA - the only way he won't be there will be if he is F2 or TPTB do not want him there. Wouldn't that be interesting??

A family member of mine won Big Brother a couple of years ago - he was also a young hottie (quite a bit younger than Graham) and it was so strange to watch how he was edited and how people reacted to him. There weren't a lot of similarities between how he was portrayed and how he really is. His mother in particular was seriously appalled .

[ilovemick]

Runnergirl2008

Welcome to the Graham obsession club!

[Auntie Lyn]

Originally Posted by fireflyer

I have never understood the whole Graham vibe... to me he just seems so awkward and highschoolish. His mom talks about 4-week girlfriends, but why assume he's got commitment issues? Maybe he just keeps getting dumped over and over. I don't know anybody who would date a guy for longer than a month if he never looked at her. Most girls like to feel they are dating a human.

What surprises me is that Deanna doesn't seem to notice the lack of eye contact. And also surprising is that even though his demands about not sharing upset her (and are soooo revealing about his true character), she keeps forgiving and forgetting. The things about him that seem like big red warning flags to me aren't registering with Deanna.

Perhaps the reason that DeAnna didn't seem to notice the lack of eye contact is because there was no lack at all on his part, and only in the edited version this is this brought to our attention to create his role in this story.

Graham appears to me to be someone who knows that words spoken carry much weight and he thinks before speaking. And as DeAnna and Jenni both said in the first episode that not only is he easy to look at, he is very well spoken. Also that first night on their 1/1 time getting to know you, can you point my direction to the "lack of eye contact." He looks right at her, speaks very articulately about himself and answers her questions without hesitation. He does not come across as confused, egotistical or having some hidden agenda. I got the impression from that first conversation, he wanted to get to know her, explore the possibilities of a relationship.