Bachelorette 4 Media thread

[bugsme3]

Originally Posted by BaseballMomof4

I too am a female and that comment was not meant to insult you or any other poster. I'm sorry you have taken it personally, it was not meant to be taken personally by any poster on this board. With that being said, you have two men implying in a not very cryptic way that they were intimate with Deanna, you have Deanna not only not correcting these comments, but even making a "test drive" comment rather publicly, so to me, if it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it's a duck - and it's probably named Ted.

Well when those 2 men lost and fine out that the little guy, with the pink shoe laces out class them all and got the girl, then bitterness sets in afterall and that is when they loses common touch and chose not to be the gentleman they chose to showcase when they were on the show. Personally I have already said what I thought about Jeremy = love him although I am disappointed by his comments regarding this matter, Jason = cant stand a phony.

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[BaseballMomof4]

Originally Posted by bugsme3

Well when those 2 men lost and fine out that the little guy, with the pink shoe laces out class them all and got the girl, then bitterness sets in afterall and that is when they loses common touch and chose not to be the gentleman they chose to showcase when they were on the show. Personally I have already said what I thought about Jeremy = love him although I am disappointed by his comments regarding this matter, Jason = cant stand a phony.

There are a lot of things that can be said, however, Jesse did not "outclass" anyone . He was the crudest and most lacking in manners of any of the guys - well maybe not coyote yell guy, but he didn't even get past the first episode. Jesse has no manners, which in turn is evidence of a lack of class.

[bugsme3]

Originally Posted by BaseballMomof4

There are a lot of things that can be said, however, Jesse did not "outclass" anyone . He was the crudest and most lacking in manners of any of the guys - well maybe not coyote yell guy, but he didn't even get past the first episode. Jesse has no manners, which in turn is evidence of a lack of class.

Jesse has manners. I saw him show respect to Deannas grand parents and her father. In was dealing with people who might not have been acting like them selves and I sure saw some who were fake, so why should he not talk about farting, we all do it, it is a way of life, saying rad is no big deal it is his slang. They may say what goes behind the scene but we did not see him been anything but sweet, kind and gentle to Deanna and she is the most important person that counted, it was good to see him bringing real to reality.

[BaseballMomof4]

Originally Posted by bugsme3

Jesse has manners. I saw him show respect to Deannas grand parents and her father. In was dealing with people who might not have been acting like them selves and I sure saw some who were fake, so why should he not talk about farting, we all do it, it is a way of life, saying rad is no big deal it is his slang. They may say what goes behind the scene but we did not see him been anything but sweet, kind and gentle to Deanna and she is the most important person that counted, it was good to see him bringing real to reality.

He was also, according to at least Jeremy, maybe others, lacking manners at the dinner table with the other guys. Manners aren't something you pull out for the grandparents like the fine china. It is a way of leading your life and showing respect for others, not just certain people.

[bizbachfan]

Originally Posted by BaseballMomof4

He was also, according to at least Jeremy, maybe others, lacking manners at the dinner table with the other guys. Manners aren't something you pull out for the grandparents like the fine china. It is a way of leading your life and showing respect for others, not just certain people.

and to me Jesse may not be the best at holding his fork properly and may say a few slang words, but he was kind and considerate to all the guys and to deanna and her family. discussing farting is no big deal in my book, glad as we have said to each his own, you throw in she might want a test drive with Graham and that offends some, Jesse saying farting and pooping offends you, again we are all different thank goodness

[BaseballMomof4]

Originally Posted by bizbachfan

and to me Jesse may not be the best at holding his fork properly and may say a few slang words, but he was kind and considerate to all the guys and to deanna and her family. discussing farting is no big deal in my book, glad as we have said to each his own, you throw in she might want a test drive with Graham and that offends some, Jesse saying farting and pooping offends you, again we are all different thank goodness

I used Deanna's words, not my own, and did so in humor. My point was, that manners are not turned on and off like a light switch, you either respect others and therefore do not "break wind" at the dinner table (as the guys have said Jesse did regularly), or you do not. You can put on an act for "special people", but that does not mean you have manners or class.

[marstokyo]

Originally Posted by bizbachfan

I agree, I don't think she "slept" with any of them, but who knows and its not really for us to know.

She does not strike me as the kind of woman who would have sex before saying "I love you." I think she wanted to be sure she only shared that level of intimacy with one, and she waited until after the FRC. (Maybe because of her bad experience with Brad, that could be one reason why she felt so broken hearted, and she didn't want to put the men through that.)

She might have made a test drive comment, but that can mean a lot of things. I think they did more than just talking, but I think she asked the men to respect her boundaries.

[stilettos]

Originally Posted by bizbachfan

I don't think any guy directly implied she slept with them,intimate yes. sex no

Being intimate IS sex!!! Since when is ANY sexual content with someone NOT considered sex. OH YEAH, since Bill Clinton SAID it wasn't. This is why High School girls think that oral sex is not sex. God help us all!!

[bizbachfan]

umm I consider heavy kissing intimate, laying close to someone and holding them intimate, there are many interpretations of intimate

[BaseballMomof4]

Originally Posted by bizbachfan

umm I consider heavy kissing intimate, laying close to someone and holding them intimate, there are many interpretations of intimate

Uh, I don't think that is what Jeremy or Jason were implying.............