After The Final Rose *SPOILERS*

[anders332]

So now folks think the AFRC did tape on Saturday because of the twit.....Oops, I mean tweet.

[BlondieGal]

So would that mean that it was planned from the beginning for the cameras and she has been seeing F1 or that it was planned from the beginning and both F2 are in the dark until ATFR?

From the way I read it, that the producers choose for Ali to turn both down at the FRC then pick someone for the ATFR show. I highly suspect that Ali has been in contact with her F1 all along, if this is true.

No wonder Fleiss loves Ali, if true.

Yes, all speculation but something that may make sense of this wacky season.

[Alanna]

From the way I read it, that the producers choose for Ali to turn both down at the FRC then pick someone for the ATFR show. I highly suspect that Ali has been in contact with her F1 all along, if this is true.

No wonder Fleiss loves Ali, if true.

This would make sense to me too. If MF told Ali to do it, it was obviously with the understanding that she and the F1 would still be able to meet and hang out. The F2 probably doesn't care either way he wasn't going to be with her in the end anyway.

But if this happened, oy vey, Ali is crazy to agree.

[cheryl74]

From the way I read it, that the producers choose for Ali to turn both down at the FRC then pick someone for the ATFR show. I highly suspect that Ali has been in contact with her F1 all along, if this is true.

No wonder Fleiss loves Ali, if true.

Yes, all speculation but something that may make sense of this wacky season.

Last night, after comandeering my son's laptop all evening (to check for spoilers), he asked me why I was sitting on the (his) computer all night. I told him that I was looking to see if there was a leak from the ATFR taping. He asked what was that about b/c she was going to "pick live". I started to explain all the spoiler contradictions/theories when he politely interjected and said, 'well it came from TMZ mom, they're pretty reliable'. I didn't really pay any attention to what he was saying (nice mom I am!) but now that I'm reading all these speculations today, I wonder? Have any of you heard about a live pick as reported by TMZ? He likely watched it on TV though, so I would imagine if he's remembering it correctly, it would've been posted here?! Oh and he said something about Costa Rica (again bad mom for not listening to dear son). IDK, just throwing stuff against the wall and see what sticks...

[Luvstruck]

From the way I read it, that the producers choose for Ali to turn both down at the FRC then pick someone for the ATFR show. I highly suspect that Ali has been in contact with her F1 all along, if this is true.

No wonder Fleiss loves Ali, if true.

Yes, all speculation but something that may make sense of this wacky season.

This could have happened, remember Chris L supposedly told someone about the ending they would not be sad, but would understand (makes sense she decides to wait, it goes along with Ali's comments last season after she left for her job if it was meant to be since Jake was a pilot he could get in a plane to come to her after the show.)

[Newbie@this]

This would make sense to me too. If MF told Ali to do it, it was obviously with the understanding that she and the F1 would still be able to meet and hang out. The F2 probably doesn't care either way he wasn't going to be with her in the end anyway.

But if this happened, oy vey, Ali is crazy to agree.

And...could this be why she has since apologized?? Because she agreed to this final decision making? Hmmm....

[emusha]

Hopefully at least CH knows how to handle a camara - gosh we need proof don't we

see that's the whole point right if this speculation by Blondie's source is true (is this the more reliable one Blondie who earlier said it was Ali is single?? or the less reliable one who said she's engaged to roberto?)

what melinda havea said could make sense -

At FRC we see a no pick (that's all that's taped)
Preplanned because Ali picks her F1 in Tahiti in a scenario where only CH, Ali and F1 know who she picks... (according to melinda this is roberto)
This is all revealed at the ATFR

[nd4reality]

RS got it wrong. RS is saying she picks no one at the FRC, she is still single, and will remain single. She will not be picking anyone at the ATFR.

Fleiss will have outfoxed the spoilers, especially if we find out that she has been with someone most or all of the time in between the FRC and the ATFR.

Very likely.

RS is right - she did leave the FRC single but IMO Ali and her F1 got together very soon after. They probably have been together or in touch all this while.

The purpose of this new taping (AFTR 2) would be to interview Frank and get Ali and her F2 some closure for the season.
But it will all be shown as a single segment, the "reunion" of the lovers after BoraBora, F3 and F2 interviews.

Makes sense to me.

[BlondieGal]

see that's the whole point right if this speculation by Blondie's source is true (is this the more reliable one Blondie who earlier said it was Ali is single?? or the less reliable one who said she's engaged to roberto?)

what melinda havea said could make sense -

At FRC we see a no pick (that's all that's taped)
Preplanned because Ali picks her F1 in Tahiti in a scenario where only CH, Ali and F1 know who she picks... (according to melinda this is roberto)
This is all revealed at the ATFR

Both sources were valid but the first one could not confirm it (A&R engaged) but the second source was always told of an engagement and was not told of one so felt confident of a no pick. Both could be right then if happened at the ATFR show but planned ahead of time.

[Newbie@this]

Has anyone seen the preview where CH's vo says "Ali is surprised by a visitor" (paraphrasing) at the ATFR. Who could that be?