Bachelorette 5 Thoughts and Comments

[Capegal]

We saw Jillian say "ED IS AN OPEN BOOK" (to CH or as a VO, not sure).
Really? If f3 were books ...............for Jillian's summer reading

Ed is the book that has an interesting picture on the cover that gets her attention. She thinks it's a great book, starts to read it and thinks she is enjoying it. Doubts come up as she reads but she is so caught up in the character she didn't pay attention to it. She misplaced the book for a while, so she began reading the other books. When she finally found the book and continued she noticed the book wasn't what she thought it was when she first starting reading it. There were parts that were crude, the character was arrogant and different now. When she got to the end of the book, she realized that the book was not what she thought it was at all. The character and story line were flawed, tacky and misleading.She realizes she never really understood the book, she was misled by the cover and read the wrong book. She feels let down.

Kip is the best seller book she took from the library, she likes the title and storyline but as she began to read she realized parts of the book was just too intellectual for her to comprehend even though she loved the subject matter of the book. She put the book aside.

Reid is the book she saw at the store, bought it, wanted to read it but put it away on the bookshelf when she got distracted reading the other books first. When she finally got to the book she enjoyed reading it, thoroughly, even if some of the key words were missing. She laughed a lot as she read the book and it was effortless and she got the gist of it. She loved the book, the characters, the storylines, it was her kind of book. But she refused to acknowledge it bec' she felt some key words would have given her a better understanding of the book adding to her enjoyment. She didn't understand that by "reading" the book to the very end she would finally understand the parts that were difficult to comprehend at first and it would all make sense. She has the book she loves but she puts it aside for now.

Any thoughts?

Anyone else think Ed was really an open book? He's probably the least open of the f3 guys, IMO.

UUmmm - open the book and you will find it is hollowed out - to hide something in mayba?!?

[cheekychook]

I'm sorry, but there is only one girlfriend that I have seen with Ed and that is Jillian...

and she has said that he was the open book. she said he has listened to her and what she wants, and paid attention to what makes her happy and has delivered it so far. her words from the catamaran date...

as far as the other girlfriends... they have yet to be seen and questioned... lots of speculation and rumors, but no interviews to date. perhaps I missed their interviews?

No, you haven't missed any interviews. The girlfriends are choosing to stay quiet at this time. Doesn't mean they didn't exist. For people who know that these women exist the statement that "Ed is an open book" was simply overflowing with irony. JMO

[halfpintdynamit]

what this all boils down to is that the entire season was thrown under the bus and it's the viewers that have put 10 weeks into this story to have a manipulated ending (again) is insulting.

Flo, if you want to get the quote, go ahead - I find her interviews have been inconsistent to the point that it's laughable.

she said she knew what she needed to do a week before (and on that day as you say). Said she knew who her F1 was one week and the next week it was changed. If this is correct (which I doubt) we heard her on the ABC website say that Wes was going to be her F1, so after he left she had to pick her default F1 - if Ed was to be her F1 after letting Reid, then Kip leave, then in the end chooses to accept Reid's proposal, that's just more inconsistency.....

If this is another case of she knew Reid was going to be her F1, but the producers thought it would be a better story to let him go at F3 and have him return that is the height of ignorance and manipulaton that makes me want to

Hey, Anders. Maybe it was Jillian herself who thought she would try to shock Reid into realizing how much he loved her so he would say it in words (i.e., in limo, in shock, realizing he could not be without her). Or am I being naive about the machinations of TPTB!

[wmweeza]

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Yes, and it is good.
Bigger than Ed's swimwear but smaller than Fleiss' ego, which still makes it huge......but please don't ask now or PM me bc I can't blow it until I've got it for sure.
And even then I may report it through someone else.
I've already said too much. And there are no guarantees.

But...I have a short attention span and if it comes through someone else I won't recognize the info

[GuardianAngel]

A quick and dirty recaps of ed and the girlfriends. According to sdl and cheeky the following are known as facts:

Ed was dating 2 (maybe more?) girls before coming on the show, and during the beginning of the show. He left (assumed to be related to gfs). When he got home he might have been picked up by his gf Lindey @ the airport. He spent time with both while home for 2 weeks. He came back to the show, went to spain. He told the gfs upon leaving he was going to Texas and had enjoyed a rodeo. Now when he went to spain the gfs found out about each other. So they started texting him in spain and saying what's going on? One asked are we seeing other people. He said no i just have to finish the show. He then told them where he was and that he slept with Jill, but so had the others, while in Spain.

The Laurel was the rumored present gf of Wes, but really ex-gf who he still might have a thing for.

Hope that was close to right, and answered some of your q's.

Just a couple of items I would like to add to the dirty recap.

When Ed supposedly was picked up at the airport by Lindsey, she knew he was gone for several weeks to be on a reality tv show, which is a show that you try to win someone's heart, and it is expected that you fall in love and propose. However, Ed was able to convince her for whatever reason that it was Ok for him to go on this show.

While Ed was apparently home for 2 weeks, his friends made fun of him for being cut so soon, he is also known to have said that he really wasn't into Jillian, leading everyone to believe that he didn't mind being cut.
This apparently took place at his favorite bar, where it appears neither one of his one two or three or more g/friends were in attendance. Even if either one of them were there, they would still consider themselves to be g/friends at this point after the laughing and joking of being cut too soon.

Apparently when Ed left to go back to the show, during an email text or phone call, we don't exactly know how or when this took place, we only know at some point, he told Lindsey that he just had to finish doing the show before he could come back.

In the meantime, while Ed is in Spain, these girls find out about eachother. One of the girls emails/texts/calls, and states to Ed that she guesses they are seeing other people now, to me it appears, that going on a realtiy tv show to fall in love and propose, is not as important as it is to see another woman or three. She asked him if he slept with Jill, and he said yes, but so did the other guys, apparently sleeping with Jill was more important than sleeping with one two or three or more other women at this point. This is when they broke up with Ed. In Spain, over the phone, email, or text because he said he slept with Jillian, even though Jillian states in her blog they stayed up till 7am talking all night about everything under the sun.

[Arizona Sunset]

Random afternoon thoughts ...

1) Want to be the first to say... "Is it Monday yet"?? But at the same time, tomorrow will be the not-so-fun Monday... Don't ya just hate that Monday of the MTA, especially since we probably won't get much new info in the previews.. Bummer!

2) In that new preview of the FRC, that voice is awfully weird... sounds like James Bond to me! Was he on the show, but very well hidden?

3) For those who say every season "I wish my favorite guy would be brought back"... We will probably get that this season... but it won't necessarily be what we were wishing for after all. Lesson to be learned from this - Be careful what you wish for!

Please excuse this interruption in the normal Sunday conversation...Have a great Sunday everyone!

[halfpintdynamit]

Yes, if they were actually sunBURNed they would be cringing and yelping "ooo, ahhhh, owwwwwwww" just like normal people do when someone insists they put lotion on their sunburn---it hurts like heck and the last thing you want is for someone to touch it, let alone rub it. Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeek! Were they out in the sun that day? Yes. Did they get a bit of color? Yes. But I am thinking that was the kind of day-in-the-sun tan where you feel all warm and baked but not the kind where you have a case of the owies. And from personal experience I'd have to say the warm and baked feeling makes you more amorous, not less. JMO

Yes, you're right, Cheeky. The chance that Ed and Jillian would get a sun BURN is highly unlikely considering his already tanned olive skin and her tanned look. JMO

[Kacey253]

Thanks to Parasolpink and Clsmum for keeping us informed on the wildfires near Jillian's parent's home.

Having spent many anxious hours watching a wildfire on the hills above me when I lived in San Diego, my heart goes out to all in the affected area. I can still picture the flames burning down the hillside in my mind. I was lucky it was contained before it reached my neighborhood. Its something you don't forget.

As others have said, it could have a great affect on Jillian and the filming of the AFTR depending on what happens with the fires. The weather here in the Seattle area is supposed to be hot and dry all week. (Yuck!) Hopefully BC will get more of a break than us and they'll be able to contain the fires soon.

[jch2273]

Random afternoon thoughts ...

1) Want to be the first to say... "Is it Monday yet"?? But at the same time, tomorrow will be the not-so-fun Monday... Don't ya just hate that Monday of the MTA, especially since we probably won't get much new info in the previews.. Bummer!

2) In that new preview of the FRC, that voice is awfully weird... sounds like James Bond to me! Was he on the show, but very well hidden?

3) For those who say every season "I wish my favorite guy would be brought back"... We will probably get that this season... but it won't necessarily be what we were wishing for after all. Lesson to be learned from this - Be careful what you wish for!

Please excuse this interruption in the normal Sunday conversation...Have a great Sunday everyone!

MR. INVISIBLE

[seeker]

not sure about the library where you are checking those books out of, but we could put anyone of the f3's names on any one of the covers... you are talking fiction, not biographies...

based on what Jillian said... that "Ed is an open book" I took it to mean what it normally means in any conversation... he is what you see, no pretense... no filter. much like our leading lady.

Ed has been forward and upfront with her every time he has been with her. he has not shied away from any conversations about job, security, kids, living arrangements or falling in love. he has let her know in no uncertain terms that when he came back, he came back to pursue her and be transparent in that endeavor. she has not had to ask him what his plans are... he told her without questioning if you were to come live with me in Chicago... and went on to talk about what they would do, how they would move thru a relationship... but he could see them being long term. he has openly started the discussion of kids and when he sees them in his life.

she has had to ask the other 2 guys, on not one, but at least 2 occasions these questions and still would get vague answers.
Ed's own father said, Ed is a best friend... what you see is what you will get. I took that... if you don't like what you see, then don't pick him... but he is an open book.

I beg to differ. Everyone is entitled to what they will believe about any of these participants. I'm sure there are many people looking to get info. on all the participants. We have heard next to nothing about Kip and Reid. There are several sources who have no contacts with each other coming out with the same info. Ed had not one but 2 gfs back in Chicago during filming and was back hanging out with them during his hiatus on the show, had contact with them during filming in Spain as well. I've read several posts of people who liked him earlier on in the show now questioning his new persona since his return to the show.

I choose to believe the sources giving us the info. bec' they have been consistent and proved to be factual in the end in past seasons. Someone with things to hide is IMO not an open book. I did not classify the "books" as fiction or biographies. I left the interpretation/inference of the genre up to the reader of this post. JMO!