Men Tell All (or at least we hope they do)

[Taddy77]

I am with you, Sanlee.
I used to be mad at Jason and sad for Melissa, but not any more. Life's been good to all F3: Jillian got her own show and is very happy now; Mel got 3rd place in DTWS, and is happily engaged; Jason and Molly are "exclusively dating". I don't think Molly just wants to "win"; she must have felt something special to take him back; why is there still animosity toward Jason & Molly? (ducking from any tomatoes thrown this way)

Hey no way!!! not from me. That was a great post, and you could have gotten that out of my head!
After it was announced that Melissa was doing DWTS & JIllian was the next B'ette; I thought to my myself, "well that actually ended really well for all 4 people that supposedly got totally heart broken and banged up and thrown under buses this gong show of a season" (1st Jillian , a fan fave, broken hearted - but now Next B'ette, 2nd Melissa the F1 - has her engagement broken off on TV and then sees her very fresh EX fiance profess his love for the F2, but then bounces back by doing DWTS - well I might add! - and is now engaged again, except now this time for keep (I hope for both their sake!), 3rd Jason a single Dad - the biggest Pawn in Bachelor history, (see Melissa's story), then is left by TPTB to be vilified by a Nation who once loved him all because he was played the fool of by MF and co - who then finds TRUE LOVE in the girl he wanted all along, his F2 Molly. And 4th MOlly oh Molly - the F2 who also got toyed with and played by TPTB,was dumped by a man she "actually" fell in love with on this show, only for him to ask for her to take him back! but in the end is now happy with Jason.

So while MF got his HUGE ratings, the 4 main players came out ok (well with Jillian only time will tell if she can take 2 rides on aging vehicle that is the Fleiss-mobile without falling right under, up until now I think she's just been dragged out on he road a few times but has her seat belt - as in - her wits about her intact, but even those are wearing thin! and can' say I blame her with MF & co throwing everything from soup to nuts at her!), much to MF's happiness with Melisa for sure as it gives The Bach/B'ette show more free press. And Jason & MOlly staying together is ALWAYS good for MF. THe more couple that actually stay together are better in the long run for this franchise and I can't understand why he can't see that!!!

Even though I like him very much, I don't want Kip to be the next Bachelor. Other than the reason you listed, for my own selfish reason, I don't want his "perfect"-ness to be tarnished!

I don't want Kip to be the next Bachelor either. And I too like Kip a lot. I just think he isn't Bachelor material, I think I posted that awhile back, I'd have to go back and find it. It was a long post!!! If he isn't used to pursuing then it MIGHT be up his alley because all he would have to do is sit back and let them come to him... but that HAS to get boring for a guy like Kip after the first 2 weeks. Then you'd actually like to meet and weed out the quality women. And I have trouble seeing him do that. He'd have to be very up front that this will be a NO proposal ending bachelor and see if MF still will want him. THe girls will, 'cause some will think they can change him and some will not care as long as they get that final rose and HIM.

[Taddy77]

sorry will now love to discuss the MTA

1st part will be the David/Juan show!

I'll think more later, baby is calling and it's 4am!

[chopstickchick]

has anyone here been invited to MTA yet??

[longhornalum]

Not only do I think Wes will show up to the MTA, TPTB may plan to invite him to attend a little early and have a stocked bar ready for him. They will probably do whatever they can to insure he is at least somewhat liquored up and loose-lipped........ hasn't been too hard in the recent past. Won't that give the editors and censors some work to do this weekend?!! LOL

I suspect he'll show up also. Wes beware! It has probably gotten through his thick skull by now how duplicitous and manipulative Fleiss can be. However, as a result of Wes' little Bobby Bones interview, Wes may still be blind to Fleiss' vindictive side.

[anders332]

has anyone here been invited to MTA yet??

yeah - there's been no mention of tickets and it's taping Saturday - hmmmm....maybe a closed set or hired seat fillers with bogus questions?

[Brendaavon]

It will be very telling for who they all could see Jill with seeing as they have spent more time together. I bet our luck it will be 50/50. Reid/Kip. Are we in Hawaii yet???

[atem]

Maybe they will do what they did for that 2nd ATFR for Jason?

[TLynnMartin]

agree. it is still a puzzle as to why he came on the show in the first place. he never looks eager to participate at all (he knows too well that this isn't 100% 'real'), even though he shows genuine interest in Jillian. perhaps it has to do with the biased editing, or he simply came on as a favor to a producer he knows.

According to all the spoilers, Kip is not chosen in the end, however, to me, Jillian and Kip's chemistry is so undeniable. It is also obviously clear to the guys how into Kip she is. Whenever she went off with Kip they alll always agreed Kip would be back - to me - that says something.

I think they try to keep the scenes away from Kip as much as possible - why? There is a reason and to me it would be because their connection and love story is so obvious. I am hoping all spoilers all wrong because to me this is the only one I can see that she is truly into.

Not Reid, Not Ed....Just Kip.

[I'msotired]

As tight as they've been with SCs, previews and leaks this season, I won't be surprised if the audience is the families of crew members who know their livelihoods depend on keeping their mouths shut. I also bet they won't show the FRC to them. I always wondered why they took that chance. All they have to do is bring on the rejected guys, dish with them, and show clips/outtakes of the F3.


ETA: Bummer.

[ubidiah]

Maybe Wes will go and only say yes or no.

How it really happens:

CH: So, Wes, do you think you were treated fairly?

Wes: No

How it appears on-screen:

CH: (Shot of the back of his head only so you can't see his lips move) So, Wes, do you believe the holocaust really happened?


Wes: No