Bachelorette 5**** Spoilers, episode 8 with screencaps

[seeker]

Originally Posted by GuardianAngel

IA, I think it will be F3 Kip F2 Reid F1 Ed because of that statement. She will realize next week what I've been saying all along, she is not getting the lust back from Kip as much as she wants it. She's the one that always goes in for the kiss, she's the one touching him. As adorable as he is, he's not into her, as she is into him.

Reid stepped it up, as much as we were shown, I think Jillian feels she needs to pry out of him what he's thinking. Some think she's insecure, I think she's trying to find out how everyone feels about her. It appears Reid finds it difficult to voice his opinions, although he has a smart Alec nature about him which is hillarious. They had a great date, he finally opened up somewhat, but we weren't shown the lovey dovey stuff between them. IMO

Ed seems to be the most romantic, always touching her, and they make a point in showing that. He is showing her, physically, how he feels.

She woke up and expected to be engaged by the end of the day, someone that was so hard to let go came back, this IMO is Kip, F3 because he now comes back and says, yes, I didn't think about it until today. The day of the FRC.

Reid was the most honest when he said he had a hard time opening up bec' she may believe something one of the other guys told her even if they were not honest and choose them over him. How can a guy be any more candid. On the one side she said she is not someone who needs her man to tell her how he feels all the time and yet that's all she is asking the guys to do. She is way too insecure and we have to see if she really learned anything at all after her date with Wes. That should have been an eye opener in many ways.

She knows that she has had the most honest and real convos. with Reid. If she lets him walk away then as some posters pointed out it will be her loss. If she picks Ed she will regret it sooner than later. Given some of her PIs I am beginning to question if Jillian really knows what she wants in life or even know what real happiness is about. We will have a better idea of how tight her head is screwed on or if she's got a few screws missing when the FRC comes around.

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[ironcat]

Originally Posted by coastalbc

Okay, found their VO's at the end of her date with Reid.
Jill:
"I feel like I am falling in love with Reid, and I love who I am when I am with Reid and that is something that is so special to me. I didn't think I would be this crazy about somebody and still feel so much like myself. I know that I made the decision for us to not spend the night together, but I am so comfortable with him and I have such a good time.......I just hope I made the right decision.

Reid:
It is always hard saying good bye to Jillian E' at tien mi corezone.........she has my heart. As neurotic as I am and as much as I second guess things, I am confident about my relationship with Jillian, and if I didn't have that, I'd have nothing.

Re: the highlighted statement, if she really feels this way, she should absolutely choose Reid. Last week, Jill stated that her conundrum with men was that the ones who she falls for are unattainable, and she has to turn into someone else in order to pursue them, while the ones that like her and she can be herself with she doesn't fall for. She basically just said that Reid is the first guy who has broken the mold. However, I am losing confidence that Jill's judgement is as good as she thinks it is.

[SaffronSunrise]

I just read "Jillian's" blog on People.com & she talks a little about the dates. Most of the blog is about Wes (of course) but she talks a little about each date.
Kip: "Kiptyn crashed that scooter about 6 times that night, and although he was mortified, it made me like him even more … I laughed for days about that. I could just see us traveling through Europe doing the same thing and having a blast!"

Reid:" Reid and I were starving by the time we went to dinner that night because our attempt at purchasing a romantic little picnic was a complete FLOP and our lunch was dry, tasteless and rubbery — again, another clue as to how much fun we would have traveling together."

She also mentions that Spain taught her that she wasn't s much of a foodie as she thought she was. She said that she starved the whole time because she couldn't find anything to eat other than white bread, cured ham & escargot.

Ed: "I was nervous to accept the overnight date with Ed because of the “insinuations” that go with that, but I feared that we didn’t have enough time to catch up during the day. I knew that if Ed were to have a shot at this, he needed A LOT of time to get caught up with the others. I’m not sure if this is appropriate to say or not … but I have to tell you … We really did stay up ALL night till 7 a.m. talking about everything under the sun — every guy’s dream of the “fantasy date” … not. But it did make me realize how serious he was about coming back showing me he cared."

Wes: "The thing is, for the last 10 years of my life, I have been surrounded with everything “urban,” my adult life has been all about my work and being in the city and I had this fantasy of being with someone that reminds me of where I came from, you know, camping, driving down the old dirt road, my guy working on the truck out in the driveway, listening to country music, cracking a beer on a Sunday evening on the old front porch … Scrreeeechhhh! What? Jilly! You have been listening to too many honky-tonk songs! Ha! Wes defined that fantasy to a tee, though. And the others were such city boys, I had such a hard time letting that long-time fantasy go."

Jillian's statement about Wes makes me think this is the guy who was right for her on paper & after the ordeal with him, she threw the paper away.

[sjpmama]

After an 11 day hiatus, Reid has again appeared on twitter. He posted last night around 11 pm something to the effect of "What a night. Way to go Wes." First time he has been so direct about the show. He then posted 2 real estate things this am. Well at least we know he's still alive and he appears to be watching the show himself.

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Originally Posted by sjpmama

After an 11 day hiatus, Reid has again appeared on twitter. He posted last night around 11 pm something to the effect of "What a night. Way to go Wes." First time he has been so direct about the show. He then posted 2 real estate things this am. Well at least we know he's still alive and he appears to be watching the show himself.

In his interview that was taken down pretty much after it was posted by a reality blog, he said he watched the show.

[Bloomers]

Originally Posted by SaffronSunrise

I just read "Jillian's" blog on People.com & she talks a little about the dates. Most of the blog is about Wes (of course) but she talks a little about each date.






Wes: "The thing is, for the last 10 years of my life, I have been surrounded with everything “urban,” my adult life has been all about my work and being in the city and I had this fantasy of being with someone that reminds me of where I came from, you know, camping, driving down the old dirt road, my guy working on the truck out in the driveway, listening to country music, cracking a beer on a Sunday evening on the old front porch … Scrreeeechhhh! What? Jilly! You have been listening to too many honky-tonk songs! Ha! Wes defined that fantasy to a tee, though. And the others were such city boys, I had such a hard time letting that long-time fantasy go."

Jillian's statement about Wes makes me think this is the guy who was right for her on paper & after the ordeal with him, she threw the paper away.

Nothing personal against the F3, but it sounds to me like in her heart, Jillian doesn't really want a city boy who has no country roots or experience with small town living at all. She appears to want someone who can at least identify with her in that way.

[Bonbonlover]

Originally Posted by anders332

what bothered me was that she kept saying that she and Ed lost so much time - they lost 1 group date and 1 HTD - it just sounds to me like she's justifying.

I agree the HTD is important, but she can't go back and have that with him, and spending time alone in the FD doesn't replace it.

ITA!!!

I also feel that she needs to put the "we lost so much time" mantra to rest. She should either move forward or cut him. But she isn't really giving him a chance if she constantly brings up "you are behind" bla bla bla. I just see it sucking the the zest out of him...

[seeker]

Originally Posted by Bloomers

Nothing personal against the F3, but it sounds to me like in her heart, Jillian doesn't really want a city boy who has no country roots or experience with small town living at all. She appears to want someone who can at least identify with her in that way.

She sounds like a messed up mama from her blogs. She is self-contradictory. She says she wants someone who will stand by her and yet she is so impressed by someone who left, changed his mind (or PTB changed it for him) and came back whether to really win her heart is questionable given "rumors" he was having a jolly good time with his gals in Chitown.

If she didn't learn a valuable lesson after her HTD and Spain date with Wes then she is not a good judge of character as she claims to be. She has replaced Wes with Ed now. She's is very needy and as long the guy is feeding her the right lines she is going to be trailing it. I hope she did have her head screwed on right in the end.

[atlMD]

Originally Posted by Bonbonlover

ITA!!!

I also feel that she needs to put the "we lost so much time" mantra to rest. She should either move forward or cut him. But she isn't really giving him a chance if she constantly brings up "you are behind" bla bla bla. I just see it sucking the the zest out of him...

Wonder whose fault that was? She's trying to make up for Ed's mistakes? Not good. Ed left, it was his choice, he came back let him start from where he left off, don't give me that crap about needing to spent more time to make up for lost time. Let him sweat for it - girl please.........that's exactly why some guys take girls for granted imo!

[atlMD]

Originally Posted by Bloomers

Nothing personal against the F3, but it sounds to me like in her heart, Jillian doesn't really want a city boy who has no country roots or experience with small town living at all. She appears to want someone who can at least identify with her in that way.

She needs to get out of her country fever and move on with the program.