Bachelorette 5**** Spoilers, episode 8 with screencaps

[ZG_Champion]

I wouldn't mind if they did show her date with Wes last and she decides to dump him right then and there (or maybe he bows out - he said it again last night that he would if he didn't want to be there).

No previews of an RC next week and only this cap that suggests there may be one - and that's not confirmed.

That black dress shot could be a promo shot, like Chris said the fake Spain FRC shot was --they appear to be in the same place. Since she's wearing her real FRC dress in the Spain promo FRC scene, and they wouldn't have her wear the same dress at both rose ceremonies, I'm thinking the black dress is a promo shot too and not a shot of her on the way to a real Spain rose ceremony.

I think regardless of the actual order they filmed the dates, they will show Kip's date first (Madrid), then Reid's and Ed's, and then Wes' last. If Wes and Jillian end it on their dinner date, there's no need for a FRC, the other three go on to Hawaii.

The black dress and promo FRC scene appear to be in the countryside, probably a private residence near Seville. Do we know what order the dates were actually filmed in?

[atem]

That black dress shot could be a promo shot, like Chris said the fake Spain FRC shot was --they appear to be in the same place. Since she's wearing her real FRC dress in the Spain promo FRC scene, and they wouldn't have her wear the same dress at both rose ceremonies, I'm thinking the black dress is a promo shot too and not a shot of her on the way to a real Spain rose ceremony.

I think regardless of the actual order they filmed the dates, they will show Kip's date first (Madrid), then Reid's and Ed's, and then Wes' last. If Wes and Jillian end it on their dinner date, there's no need for a FRC, the other three go on to Hawaii.

The black dress and promo FRC scene appear to be in the countryside, probably a private residence near Seville. Do we know what order the dates were actually filmed in?

I recall Wes was first, then Kiptyn's and then the 2 dates in Seville. I don't know which was first. Reid or Ed.

[chopstickchick]

That black dress shot could be a promo shot, like Chris said the fake Spain FRC shot was --they appear to be in the same place. Since she's wearing her real FRC dress in the Spain promo FRC scene, and they wouldn't have her wear the same dress at both rose ceremonies, I'm thinking the black dress is a promo shot too and not a shot of her on the way to a real Spain rose ceremony.

I think regardless of the actual order they filmed the dates, they will show Kip's date first (Madrid), then Reid's and Ed's, and then Wes' last. If Wes and Jillian end it on their dinner date, there's no need for a FRC, the other three go on to Hawaii.

The black dress and promo FRC scene appear to be in the countryside, probably a private residence near Seville. Do we know what order the dates were actually filmed in?

Since we now know 4 Spain dates were planned all along (if she hadn't brought Ed, she would have brought Michael or Jesse), wonder why there are 2 dates in Seville? Foreshadowing of the F2?

It would be great if Wes' date happened first and they ended it at dinner, that way when she went on the rest of the dates she could say "pressure's off, you're a go ahead to Hawaii, so lets just relax & enjoy this date"

[Jojo47]

That black dress shot could be a promo shot, like Chris said the fake Spain FRC shot was --they appear to be in the same place. Since she's wearing her real FRC dress in the Spain promo FRC scene, and they wouldn't have her wear the same dress at both rose ceremonies, I'm thinking the black dress is a promo shot too and not a shot of her on the way to a real Spain rose ceremony.

I think regardless of the actual order they filmed the dates, they will show Kip's date first (Madrid), then Reid's and Ed's, and then Wes' last. If Wes and Jillian end it on their dinner date, there's no need for a FRC, the other three go on to Hawaii.

The black dress and promo FRC scene appear to be in the countryside, probably a private residence near Seville. Do we know what order the dates were actually filmed in?

There may not be an actual RC per se in Spain, but there still could be the cocktail party where either CH or Jill explains that Wes has gone home so there is no need for the RC. Jill could be walking up the steps to the location where the RC was to be to meet with the rest of the guys.

[atem]

Since we now know 4 Spain dates were planned all along (if she hadn't brought Ed, she would have brought Michael or Jesse), wonder why there are 2 dates in Seville? Foreshadowing of the F2?

It would be great if Wes' date happened first and they ended it at dinner, that way when she went on the rest of the dates she could say "pressure's off, you're a go ahead to Hawaii, so lets just relax & enjoy this date"

That's what I believe, but that cap of Kiptyn and Jillian surfing messes that up. I still have that as my gut feeling...that Ed and Reid are the F2.

[Alexxxx]

TPTB will be flying in Ed's parents so that he's a viable contender for F1.

Is that confirmed or speculation?

I recall CH telling her that she will not be able to meet Ed's parents, and then she said something about how it would be hard to pick Ed without meeting or at least talking to his parents. I thought that set up another Jason/Melissa parents phone call at the 11th hour.

[ZG_Champion]

There may not be an actual RC per se in Spain, but there still could be the cocktail party where either CH or Jill explains that Wes has gone home so there is no need for the RC. Jill could be walking up the steps to the location where the RC was to be to meet with the rest of the guys.

Very well could be. They probably would want some shots of the final three together in Spain. And they can't preview them because then we'd know Wes isn't in them.

[chopstickchick]

That's what I believe, but that cap of Kiptyn and Jillian surfing messes that up. I still have that as my gut feeling...that Ed and Reid are the F2.

I still hang onto the possibility of Kip paddlesurfing is part of his FD. I posted a couple days ago that my sister just got back from Maui, and she went ziplining. So I grilled her this weekend. She said that it was definintely just a morning activity, travel & all factored in, she was back at her hotel by 1:00. She also confirmed it wasn't an exhausting activity, they were definitely up for more action that afternoon, & they are not very athletic people. I know the pebbles on the beach are more typical on Big Island, however it could be an unknown/more private beach on Maui. I could see them bringing a picnic to the beach and casually hanging out with the boards. Doesn't look like they did any intense surfing. And the way they look sad could play into the FD suite issue, etc.

[Bonbonlover]

Every time I see this picture I think of Tinkerbell in Black

[carolb57]

I don't think any of the remaining guys are in love with Jillian. Only Jake and Michael have expressed love for and wanting a future with Jillian and they are both GONE!