Originally Posted by just logic;3462634;
Originally Posted by just logic;3462634;
I get all what you are saying :) and I agree with it when you look at it in editing....but I still don't see how we know that Kip is the short term guy....LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Bloomers;3462621;
I think they will edit Kip in a way that showcases him in the best light so fans will want him as the next bachelor, and they're hoping Jillian doesn't pick him so they can do exactly that! ;) I really don't want to think it was all arranged ahead of time.
Another possibility is that he has already been let go as F3, so they're free to build him up (and manipulate the audience to love him most) in the editing room.
Originally Posted by i<3realitytv;3462737;
she didnt say she knew - this is the rest of that thought
Originally Posted by Parasolpink
Bloomers, I can't for the life of me figure out why Fleece allowed the info about the girlfriends when it exposes his show for the sham that it is... Unless he had no choice...
One thing I caught: Jilly says in the promo that she has rejected her tall dark and handsome rule. But that could be a red herring- she may choose just that. ie not Reid but Kip.
She goes on to says she wants to pick someone who will love her in the long run not just who loves her now. That sounds like Kip is the short term Reid long term right? Yet if it's Reid saying he loves her more than anything in the world in the voice overs, Kip could indeed be the long-term guy. The whole mr invisible schtik sounds like Reid since we have not heard from him. And Kip is everywhere. Maybe that's his ruse-he knows we won't be looking for the obvious and he thinks he can fool us with it being the obvious guy-for once!
I know, I was just wondering how it sounded like Kip was the short term guy...would it be because of what Jillian says about wanting someone to love her more than just right now?Quote:
Originally Posted by anders332;3462761;
You're right! We only heard the convos that they chose out of all of those hours of the cocktail party to let us hear.Quote:
Originally Posted by chopstickchick;3462728;
Why didn't we hear the conversation between Reid and her? We know from screencaps that he is really goes far in this process, so why didn't we see that?
Everything shown in the edit is carefully selected for a purpose - to point the way to the final end result. Sometimes the edit isn't even exactly what happened the way that it happened, but it is telling the story that they want to tell.
We saw a physical connection made between her and Kip ( Enough physical attraction that she gave him a rose despite the fact that he out and out told her he was a ketsup guy)
We saw a physical, probably emotional connection made between her and Mike when he dried her feet off ( an intimate and humble gesture)
We didn't hear anything from Reid although we saw it. Is it because he didn't say anything worth hearing? If so, why did she give him a rose and look pleased to do it? Or are they trying to hide him for some reason and bring him on very slowly, stealthily?
What if Kip and Reid are the F2 guys and she hasn't picked yet. Why do you they think they showed tons of Kip yet nothing of Reid? OR Do you think that maybe Kip was eliminated before the show Monday therefore they could show whatever they wanted with him? Mike wasn't shown too much so maybe he is the other F2 guy with Reid....? :wowQuote:
Originally Posted by Bloomers;3462771;
I love this thread Bloomers!!!! It is such a big help.
The most telling edits are the red flags - like with Melissa there were so many red flags it was impossible for me to see that she was F1.....bad comparison, but whenever there is a serious red flag it will definitely mean that person is a goner. Right off the top, Foot fetish guy will have to leave, as will Country Music guy.
Under this idea we could have Reid as almost the complete stealth F1 who almost comes out from nowhere. Has anybody located his 1-1 date before the Hts? If he is the F1, everyone will be saying, "Gee, where did he come from?"Quote:
Originally Posted by i<3realitytv;3462781;
If Kip is let go at F3 ( suspicion because of email to office?), then he might be slated to be one of what I call "those wonderful F3s" everybody loves.
Like Jillian, Jeremy, and Amanda his rejection might bring such a sad poignancy that the editors deliberately add that kind of element in.
There was a connection shown between Mike and Jillian with the foot drying. That could be an F2 connection.
It used to be that there was always some kind of at least a small edited connection made between the Bachelor/ette and the F3or F4 at the M&G. Last season with Melissa was the first time ever that there was a deviation from that.
If Reid is F1, then the editors will have to at least start showing him a little on the next episode. If he doesn't go on a date, we will need to see a little 1-1 talk time between them.
Originally Posted by Bloomers;3462864;
A guess would be that Reid gets the ziplining date in Canada followed by evening with hot tub. Hopefully he'll also get to pull her aside on some of the group dates and have valuable time alone with her!