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Old 06-30-2009, 11:20 AM   #51
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June 30, 2009

Roseless: Jesse, Michael

Next up:
Ep.# 8 - July 6 - F4 Spain

Ed - SC/Previews
Kip - SC/Previews
Reid - SC/Previews
Wes - SC/Previews

Roseless: Wes (somewhat disputed)


Ep.#9 - July 13 – F3 Hawaii
Fantasy Dates (possibly: family meet & LCD)

Ed - Picture Hello! Magazine - (Photo taken May 16 per Photographer)
Kip - SC surfboard/paddle, bridge SC (somewhat disputed),
Reid - SC bathtub (somewhat disputed), lava outcrop (somewhat disputed)

Roseless: ? - (no cuts or F3 to F2.)


Ep.#10 – July 20 - F2 or 3 Hawaii
MTA (and possibly LCD, Meet the Family)

Definitive proof of "residency" at Mauna Kea or Fairmont Orchid on Big Island: none yet

F3 = ?

F1 and 2 = ?


Ep.#11 – July 27 - F2/1 Hawaii
FRC (possibly LCD, Meet the Family)

Person who returns to propose = ?

F3 = ? (Brokenhearted but not broke)

F2 = ? (The next Bachelor )

F1 = ? (Mr. Invisible)


Ep. #12 - July 28 - Hawaii
AFRC

Agreed to date IRW = ?
Already broken up = ?
Engaged = ?
Date set? = ?


SLEUTHING INFO

ED Swiderski - Latest SC: Hawaii
……F3, home April 12, left show Ep #5 returns Ep #7 / still absent from Twitter and website)

JESSE Kovacs Latest SC - HTD -ELIMINATED EP # 7
…… surfaced May 14 in interview

KIPTYN Locke - Latest SC: Hawaii
……F3, surfaced May 28

MICHAEL Stagliano - Latest SC/Preview HTD
……ELIMINATED Ep#7 (Post HTD), no surfacing info

REID Rosenthal - Latest SC: Spain, disputed HI
……F3/4, surfaced May 28 on Twitter;

WES Hayden - Latest SC: Spain
……ELIMINATED EP# 8 (Post Spain?), studio video posted May 18; surfaced May 22
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Old 07-01-2009, 11:48 PM   #52
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July 1, 2009


Roseless: Jesse, Michael


Next up:

Ep.# 8 - July 6 - F4 Spain

Ed - SC/Previews
Kip - SC/Previews
Reid - SC/Previews
Wes - SC/Previews

Roseless: Wes (somewhat disputed - some discussion of possible HI hotel room SCs, unconfirmed)


Ep.#9 - July 13 – F3 Hawaii

Fantasy Dates (possibly: family meet & LCD)

Ed - Picture Hello! Magazine - (Photo taken May 16 per Photographer)
Kip - SC surfboard/paddle, bridge SC (somewhat disputed),
Reid - SC bathtub (somewhat disputed), lava outcrop (somewhat disputed)

Roseless: ? - (no cuts or F3 to F2.)


Ep.#10 – July 20 - F2 or 3 Hawaii

MTA (and possibly LCD, Meet the Family)

Definitive proof of "residency" at Mauna Kea or Fairmont Orchid on Big Island: none yet

F3 = ?

F1 and 2 = ?


Ep.#11 – July 27 - F2/1 Hawaii
FRC (possibly LCD, Meet the Family)

Person who returns to propose = ?

F3 = ? (Brokenhearted but not broke)

F2 = ? (The next Bachelor )

F1 = ? (Mr. Invisible)


Ep. #12 - July 28 - Hawaii
AFRC

Agreed to date IRW = ?
Already broken up = ?
Engaged = ?
Date set? = ?


SLEUTHING INFO

ED Swiderski - Latest SC: Hawaii
……F3, home April 12, left show Ep #5 returns Ep #7 / possible Windows Live activity May 8still absent from Twitter and website)

JESSE Kovacs Latest SC - HTD -ELIMINATED EP # 7
…… surfaced May 14 in interview

KIPTYN Locke - Latest SC: Hawaii
……F3, surfaced May 28

MICHAEL Stagliano - Latest SC/Preview HTD
……ELIMINATED Ep#7 (Post HTD), no surfacing info

REID Rosenthal - Latest SC: Spain, disputed HI
……F3/4, surfaced May 28 on Twitter;

WES Hayden - Latest SC: Spain
……ELIMINATED EP# 8 (Post Spain?), studio video posted May 18; surfaced May 22
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Old 07-07-2009, 01:29 PM   #53
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July 7, 2009


Roseless: Wes

Ep.#9 - July 13 – F3 Hawaii
Fantasy Dates II (possibly: family meets & LCD)

Ed - Picture Hello! Magazine - (Clicked May16 according to Photog)
Kip - SC surfboard/paddle, bridge SC (somewhat disputed),
Reid - SC bathtub (somewhat disputed), {Preview} lava outcrop Reid in volcano

F3 to F2 here???


Ep.#10 – July 20 - F2 or 3 Hawaii
MTA (and possibly LCD, Meet the Families-if Ed's folks are present)

No definitive proof of "residency" at Big Island's Mauna Kea or Fairmont Orchid!

Roseless F3:

Ep.#11 – July 27 - F2/1 Hawaii
FRC (possibly LCD, Meet the Families- if Ed's folks are present)

The returning ring 'bearer' = ?

F3 = ? (Brokenhearted but not broke)

F2 = ? (The next Bachelor )

F1 = ? (Mr. Invisible)

MTA-where are you?! 3 bachelors confirmed so far-who are they? Sleuthers do your stuff!


Ep. #12 - July 28 - Hawaii
AFRC

Agreed to date IRW = ?
Already broken up = ?
Engaged = ?
Date set? = ?


SLEUTHING INFO

ED Latest SC: Hawaii
……F3, home April 12, left show Ep #5 returns Ep #7 / possible Windows Live activity May 8 still absent from Twitter and website)

KIP Latest SC: Hawaii
……F3, surfaced May 28

REID no SC for Hawaii but there's a preview!
……F3/4, surfaced May 28 on Twitter;

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Old 07-14-2009, 01:13 PM   #54
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July 14, 2009

Roseless F3: Reid
Next up:
Ep.#10 – July 20 -MTA
Plus Ryan & Trista and Former Bachs & B'ettes Vegas Party

Ep.#11 – July 27 - F2 Hawaii's Big Island's Mauna Kea or Fairmont Orchid

F2/1 LCD, Meet the Family

The returning 'proposer'=

F2 = The next Bachelor

F1 =


Ep. #12 - Tuesday July 28 - Hawaii AFRC
note: airs for 1 hour only


Already broken up?
Dating in real world?
Engaged?
Date set?
If set, is wedding over 2 years from now?
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Old 07-17-2009, 04:26 PM   #55
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July 17, 2009

"Eliminated" July 14 - Reid
F1/2 = Kip, Ed


Next up:

Ep.#10 –July 20 -MTA
Plus Ryan & Trista and Former Bachs & B'ettes Vegas Party

Ep.#11– July 27 - F2 Hawaii's Big Island

F2/1 LCD, Meet the Family

Guys: Mauna Kea
Jillian: Fairmont Orchid
FRC: The Bluffs at Hana

FRC SC Order of arrival: Kip (1:18 Hawaii time)
.............................. ....Ed (3:45 Hawaii time)

The returning 'proposer'= Reid (per FoRTers) No SCs, No previews

F2 = The next Bachelor ?

F1 =


Ep. #12 - Tuesday July 28 - Hawaii AFRC
note: airs for 1 hour only
"Two spurned bachelors"

Final result:
Already broken up?
Dating in real world?
Engaged?
Date set?
If set, is wedding over 2 years from now?
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Old 07-17-2009, 05:09 PM   #56
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July 17, 2009

"Eliminated" July 14 - Reid
F1/2 = Kip, Ed (IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER)

Next up:

Ep.#10 –July 20 -MTA
Plus Ryan & Trista and Former Bachs & B'ettes Vegas Party

Ep.#11– July 27 - F2 Hawaii's Big Island

F2/1 LCD, Meet the Family

Guys: Mauna Kea
Jillian: Fairmont Orchid
FRC: The Bluffs at Hana

FRC SC Order of arrival: Kip (1:18 Hawaii time)
.............................. ....Ed (3:45 Hawaii time)

The returning 'proposer'= Reid (per FoRTers) No SCs, No previews

F2 = The next Bachelor ?

F1 =


Ep. #12 - Tuesday July 28 - Hawaii AFRC
note: airs for 1 hour only
"Two spurned bachelors"

Final result:
Already broken up?
Dating in real world?
Engaged?
Date set?
If set, is wedding over 2 years from now?
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Old 07-17-2009, 07:29 PM   #57
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July 17, 2009 ***most recent edit: see note in blue below re: FRC SC times***

"Eliminated" July 14 - Reid
F1/2 = Kip, Ed (IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER)

Next up:

Ep.#10 –July 20 -MTA
Plus Ryan & Trista and Former Bachs & B'ettes Vegas Party

Ep.#11– July 27 - F2 Hawaii's Big Island

F2/1 LCD, Meet the Family

Guys: Mauna Kea
Jillian: Fairmont Orchid
FRC: The Bluffs at Hana

FRC SC Order of arrival: Kip (1:18 Hawaii time)**
.............................. ....Ed (3:45 Hawaii time)**

.............**assumes camera "clocks" were set with HI's time zone

The returning 'proposer'= Reid (per FoRTers) No SCs, No previews

F2 = The next Bachelor ?

F1 =


Ep. #12 - Tuesday July 28 - Hawaii AFRC
note: airs for 1 hour only
"Two spurned bachelors"

Final result:
Already broken up?
Dating in real world?
Engaged?
Date set?
If set, is wedding over 2 years from now?
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Old 07-18-2009, 04:23 AM   #58
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***most recent edit: FURTHER clarification of note in blue below re: FRC SC times***


"Eliminated" July 14 - Reid
F1/2 = Kip, Ed (IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER)

Next up:

Ep.#10 –July 20 -MTA
Plus Ryan & Trista and Former Bachs & B'ettes Vegas Party

Ep.#11– July 27 - F2 Hawaii's Big Island

F2/1 LCD, Meet the Family

Guys: Mauna Kea
Jillian: Fairmont Orchid
FRC: The Bluffs at Hana

FRC SC Order of arrival: Kip (1:18 Hawaii time)**
.............................. ....Ed (3:45 Hawaii time)**

.............**assumes camera "clocks" were set with HI's time zone
.............If clocks were set to California time (PDT), add 3 hours, making Kip 4:18 and Ed 6:45 in Hawaii.
............No way to tell which time zone was used for the camera's internal clocks - yet.


The returning 'proposer'= Reid (per FoRTers) No SCs, No previews

F2 = The next Bachelor ?

F1 =


Ep. #12 - Tuesday July 28 - Hawaii AFRC
note: airs for 1 hour only
"Two spurned bachelors"

Final result:
Already broken up?
Dating in real world?
Engaged?
Date set?
If set, is wedding over 2 years from now?
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:33 AM   #59
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The Mister List for July 20th 2009

Next up:

Ep.#11– July 27 - F2 Hawaii's Big Island
F1-2-3 LCD, Meet the Harrises , FRC

Hotel accommodations provided by:
The Mauna Kea for Ed and Kip
Fairmont Orchid for Jillian / Reid?

FRC: The Bluffs at Hana

FRC SC Order of arrival: Kip ~1:18 pm HI / 4:18pm CA
Ed ~ 3:45 pm HI / 6:45pm CA
Reid ~

F3~
F2~
F1~


The next Bachelor:

Ep. #12 - Tuesday July 28 - Hawaii AFRC (1 hour show)
Two spurned bachelors

The Final results~
Already broken up?
Dating in real world?
Engaged?
Date set?
If set, is wedding over two years from now?
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Old 07-25-2009, 06:00 AM   #60
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Update as of July 24

Per cupcakes, F1 is Ed.
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