Reid **Spoilers**

[pajamasam]

I dont think that Brown Suit guy is Reid. The very long length of the shoes and the narrow tapered toe dont look like other shoes he has worn. In fact, they look more like Kip's . Have a look at these screencaps and compare:







Does anyone have more screencaps of Reid in dress shoes? Sneaker caps arent very helpful.

[cheekychook]

It does look like Reid's date mirror's Jillian's in B13. I don't think that is a concidence. I think its a plan. Reid also gets orchids, the others get roses. (Remember they threw out the rules.) Jillian thought she was going to get a rose on B13 and didn't, but this time the helicopeter date gets a rose. It's not an F3 date it's a F1 date. At least that is what I'm hoping and trying to reason.

There are always helicopter rides, picnics, tubs, etc---I guess I don't see the particular parallel here with Jillian's date. Is there some reason why this is such a red flag to everyone? The other way to look at the orchids is that Reid said the roses scare him, plus they're in Hawaii where orchids are not only prevalent but have romantic significance. Plus this is one of 3 dates, not one of the final 2 dates, based on location. I'm just having trouble wrapping my head around the number of overnights she's racking up on this season. No wonder she's confused.

[atem]

It does look like Reid's date mirror's Jillian's in B13. I don't think that is a concidence. I think its a plan. Reid also gets orchids, the others get roses. (Remember they threw out the rules.) Jillian thought she was going to get a rose on B13 and didn't, but this time the helicopeter date gets a rose. It's not an F3 date it's a F1 date. At least that is what I'm hoping and trying to reason.

That's an interesting take.

[sgjsnow]

There are always helicopter rides, picnics, tubs, etc---I guess I don't see the particular parallel here with Jillian's date. Is there some reason why this is such a red flag to everyone? The other way to look at the orchids is that Reid said the roses scare him, plus they're in Hawaii where orchids are not only prevalent but have romantic significance. Plus this is one of 3 dates, not one of the final 2 dates, based on location. I'm just having trouble wrapping my head around the number of overnights she's racking up on this season. No wonder she's confused.

ITA I think the confusion comes from maybe more (too much) alone time with the guys. Maybe how the previous seasons have gone with less "FD" time that it was easier.

[cynicgal]

That's what I said in another thread. Fleiss WILL go there, and I'm so disappointed in Jillian for going along. I'm not looking forward to the ending because I think they will embarrass Reid big time.

Who says it's Reid? The VO didn't say anything about what he was disappointed in himself about.

When CH and Jillian are talking it sounds as though it was a little less dramatic than everyone is assuming. I bet it is just a matter of one of the guys, sorry my bet is on Kip, just telling her he doesn't feel right moving forward at this time. A regretful I can't do this when I know there are other men still involved.

She also says that the one person she most wanted to be with in this setting....Who has she had the blatant lustful relationship so far????

[Jasmine305]

There are always helicopter rides, picnics, tubs, etc---I guess I don't see the particular parallel here with Jillian's date. Is there some reason why this is such a red flag to everyone? The other way to look at the orchids is that Reid said the roses scare him, plus they're in Hawaii where orchids are not only prevalent but have romantic significance. Plus this is one of 3 dates, not one of the final 2 dates, based on location. I'm just having trouble wrapping my head around the number of overnights she's racking up on this season. No wonder she's confused.

I guess I didn't make myself clear. I think Reid will get a rose. The helicoper date is not a red flag to me. I also think orchids means Reid is F1 because Jillian listened to him and she cares.

[jax_1]

I can't stop thinking that the 'twist' and her saying, don't want people mad at her....I really think she lets F3 go= to be Ed, and he pulls out all the stops, she considers it, but still lets him go. It is the only logical thing of why she doesn't want 'us' mad. Why would we all care if she let Reid go...assuming we were the average viewer....we haven't seen him. FORT has proved their connection far and beyond ABC showed. SO, why would we be upset??

The only true one we'd be upset would be Ed, because it shows him coming back to claim what is his...and prove to her his love! and what if she rejects that?? Then, we'd see the love story, but it was not her choice? Then, we'd be mad...presuming we were Ed supporters or fans looking for the love story?? Just my opinion

[xseannax]

There are always helicopter rides, picnics, tubs, etc---I guess I don't see the particular parallel here with Jillian's date. Is there some reason why this is such a red flag to everyone? The other way to look at the orchids is that Reid said the roses scare him, plus they're in Hawaii where orchids are not only prevalent but have romantic significance. Plus this is one of 3 dates, not one of the final 2 dates, based on location. I'm just having trouble wrapping my head around the number of overnights she's racking up on this season. No wonder she's confused.

Well as someone on another thread pointed out, they couldn't very well give Ed the helicopter date or ziplining date since he has already done both. And we can't give Reid the ziplining date because he would be pestering the ziplining company to make sure they had washed his strawberries . This way they could let Reid wash or supervise the picnic being packed for proper sanitary guidelines.

I think given the 2 dates that were available for Reid and Kiptyn, the ones given matched them very well.

[Capegal]

I think the discussion surrounding the FD that Jillian has - has more to do with 'romance' - which is mentioned in the conversation with CH as well - nothing to do with 'performance' - and she talks to the guy about it - and there is no way that I am going to assume that it is automatically Reid - seeing as the orchid tub shows a purdy nice kiss - but maybe more with the dead-bed guy.............. - but she talks to whom-ever it is regarding that - nothing more - just romancic intimacy - which sure does NOT mean sex - there is a difference

[Capegal]

I can't stop thinking that the 'twist' and her saying, don't want people mad at her....I really think she lets F3 go= to be Ed, and he pulls out all the stops, she considers it, but still lets him go. It is the only logical thing of why she doesn't want 'us' mad. Why would we all care if she let Reid go...assuming we were the average viewer....we haven't seen him. FORT has proved their connection far and beyond ABC showed. SO, why would we be upset??

The only true one we'd be upset would be Ed, because it shows him coming back to claim what is his...and prove to her his love! and what if she rejects that?? Then, we'd see the love story, but it was not her choice? Then, we'd be mad...presuming we were Ed supporters or fans looking for the love story?? Just my opinion

I agree - before the public even knows about him coming back - there is incredible 'Ed love' on all of the board - the public will eat this up and root for him - and it could/would be a shock at the end - if he is sent away and denied what fans expect to happen