Bachelorette 5 Sleuthing Thread **SPOILERS**

[cfck2222]

Originally Posted by I'msotired

BUT, sdl said his info on no love connection stopped before Hawaii. He didn't say there was no love connection in the end. I'm holding onto that with both hands and with my feet anchored in cement.

That's fair but to be honest I wouldn't be convinced by any love connection that suddenly sprung up in the last week and a half of shooting. Sdl's sources were saying the season was a disaster with no love connection as of Hawaii so IMO the "best" that could happen is they'll force feed us with a "love story" that's more editing than deep feelings. It's possible that's what's going on with Ed's departure and return - that's the "love story" they're trying to use to redeem the season.

It's also possible that what production was really frustrated by is that it isn't a sexy love story that makes for good TV. More like one where there's a dating connection that Jillian and the F1 decide to explore in an incremental way and without a proposal.

At this point the only F1 that I wouldn't question would be Kip and even then IMO Jillian's got some emotional growth to do to make that relationship work. I enjoy watching Jillian and Reid most of all but the editing doesn't point to Reid being F1 IMO. The thing about both Kip and Reid is that they seem to be resisting moving at reality show speed, instead they want to move at normal real life speed. I applaud them both for that but that's not what production wants.

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[Capegal]

Originally Posted by Living

Is he also in the Texas clique??

Well............. he IS from Texas

[I'msotired]

Originally Posted by cfck2222

That's fair but to be honest I wouldn't be convinced by any love connection that suddenly sprung up in the last week and a half of shooting. Sdl's sources were saying the season was a disaster with no love connection as of Hawaii so IMO the "best" that could happen is they'll force feed us with a "love story" that's more editing than deep feelings. It's possible that's what's going on with Ed's departure and return - that's the "love story" they're trying to use to redeem the season.

It's also possible that what production was really frustrated by is that it isn't a sexy love story that makes for good TV. More like one where there's a dating connection that Jillian and the F1 decide to explore in an incremental way and without a proposal.

At this point the only F1 that I wouldn't question would be Kip and even then IMO Jillian's got some emotional growth to do to make that relationship work. I enjoy watching Jillian and Reid most of all but the editing doesn't point to Reid being F1 IMO. The thing about both Kip and Reid is that they seem to be resisting moving at reality show speed, instead they want to move at normal real life speed. I applaud them both for that but that's not what production wants.

I suspect there's a lot of truth in your theory.

[GuardianAngel]

Originally Posted by canigetawitness

OK, I've changed my mind a few times here between Ed and Reid, mostly because, even though information was pointing toward Ed, I'm biased, I love Reid and think he would be great for Jill.....or me.......whatever : ) However, all things considered, your sleuthing, Vancouver grapevine info, etc....I believe 100% now F1 is Ed.

Thanks for sharing! Anything else you have to offer, without putting your sources at risk is greatly appreciated.

I'm confident he is the F1. He hasn't surfaced anywhere. It's over a month now that they have completed shooting. How is it possible, no one has seen or heard anything about him. He's probably on some island somewhere. I have seen the love story develop between them, some people find him strange, I find him to be extremely uncomfortable in front of cameras. But when he talks to her, I can see the expression on his face and how he feels about her. This is just my opinion of course, I can eat crow later, if I have to.

Last season we had all sorts of rumours and sightings of Molly and Melissa.

[canigetawitness]

Originally Posted by GuardianAngel

Thanks for sharing! Anything else you have to offer, without putting your sources at risk is greatly appreciated.

I'm confident he is the F1. He hasn't surfaced anywhere. It's over a month now that they have completed shooting. How is it possible, no one has seen or heard anything about him. He's probably on some island somewhere. I have seen the love story develop between them, some people find him strange, I find him to be extremely uncomfortable in front of cameras. But when he talks to her, I can see the expression on his face and how he feels about her. This is just my opinion of course, I can eat crow later, if I have to.

Last season we had all sorts of rumours and sightings of Molly and Melissa.

Though I AM a Reid fan, I think you are correct.

[KashatheDiva]

Originally Posted by I'msotired

And last season we had the poor relative of Jason who was adamant he was still with Melissa. Even she hadn't been told what happened. Now THAT was sad. I felt really bad for her.

But at the same time, it showed Jason had some moral ties to his contract and feelings toward TPTB that no one should be a confidant of his F1.
This person you refer to was a close family member in relation to Ty. She is a lovely person and close to Jason, too.
Yet Jason chose to keep his change of mind and final decision to himself. Good for him! Shows some scruples after all.

[GuardianAngel]

Originally Posted by beth0419

did I miss something what is vancouver grapvine??

I think the poster was referring to the talk on the street, the people in the restaurant business, gossip, bits of information here and there from other people in Vancouver. He/She made it clear, its just information she's hearing, and its only her opinion.

[Topiary13]

There was a link at ju to the BT interview she did in June. I watched it again, and at the end she says this stuff--ends really brilliantly, suspense [emphasized], a roller coaster, bananas up until the last five minutes, the ending is awesome, better than she could ever expected. Then she gets a bit giddy, raises her shoulders and lets out a little squeak.

imo, she chose someone, and was probably proposed to, based on her words and demeanor. She seemed genuine and happy, excited. That's my takeat any rate.

[joliepaige]

Originally Posted by Arielflies

Did Jillian or her family break contract and talk? How else would a solid F1 pick hit the Vancouver restaurant scene grapevine? That is what bothers me about all the pre-disclosures of the rankings...unless they come from a production leak, which is what happened last year. Although, we could "see" Melissa was the F1 twirling figure accepting a ring in the first previews, it was a race to find the identity of Purple Dress Girl. The production leak last year had to do with Post-FRC activity...I don't know - I just have a hard time thinking contestants break contract even to their nearest and dearest.

Same goes for the post about a reliable person regarding Kiptyn being single and ready to mingle after the FRC. How did this reliable person come by their information? Did they get Kiptyn drunk and put on the thumbscrews?

Both of these postings may have truth to them, so I'm not dismissing them, but...

I find it odd too. I know in one interview when Jillian was asked..she said if you want to give me $5 million I'll tell you!!! So I really don't think Jillian would break that contract.

[GuardianAngel]

Originally Posted by joliepaige

I find it odd too. I know in one interview when Jillian was asked..she said if you want to give me $5 million I'll tell you!!! So I really don't think Jillian would break that contract.

I agree joliepaige. I'm sure she deals with client confidentiality and contracts all the time. She is not about to break a contract, but would rather wait till the end so everyone can be surprised.