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Old 07-04-2009, 12:29 PM   #8811
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First time poster (embarrassingly long time lurker)here. I don't know if this has been mentioned yet but in the extended preview on grapevine there is a PI of Kip. The lamp in the background matches the lamp in the "dismount guy" screencap. I think Kip is that guy and from the way he is positioned on the bed, I think it looks like he is not feeling well. That could be literally the problem in the bedroom and not at all what has been implied. Maybe that's the only reason for the no romance comment. On another note, I will truly be disappointed if it is not Reid as F1. Does anyone know where I can contact the 12 step program for this?
. Nice catch there. We have pretty much narrowed down that Ed and Kip will be in the same hotel in Maui, which would explain the lamps.

We narrowed it down to Ed on the bed because of this:
-The guy on the bed and the guy closing the shutters are 2 different room types, which means 2 different guys
-The shutter guy clip was show in the premiere episode on May 18th
-Ed's FD wasn't until the 16th, so that would be a fast turnaround to get footage of his date in, thus eliminating him as the shutter guy
-Reid is seen in a bathtub with Jillian that has been matched to a different hotel meaning he is not shutter or bed guy
-Process of elimination put Ed as bed guy
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"The guy that was so hard to let go off got down on one knee and proposed".


ED - He was so hard to let go off .............In Canada

I don't believe that the proposer is one of the guys she rejects at the F3/F2 Rose Ceremony, rather it is Ed who she found hard to let go off PREVIOUSLY.
That is why she wanted to think/reconsider her pick carefully.

My flag is planted on this one.



I also believe that she asked her F1 for more time to consider her options at which time he "told her things that were hard for her to hear". It is probably also the hugging guy. That scene was NOT a goodbye scene, she would have looked way more distraught in that. Rather she looked upset because she had asked for more time and he questioned her.

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Those are just my thoughts exactly
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Old 07-04-2009, 12:39 PM   #8813
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I also believe that she asked her F1 for more time to consider her options at which time he "told her things that were hard for her to hear". It is probably also the hugging guy. That scene was NOT a goodbye scene, she would have looked way more distraught in that. Rather she looked upset because she had asked for more time and he questioned her.

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Are you saying then that she tells her F1 this after she lets the F2 go or before? Then it's thought that it's Ed who proposes because he was the one who was hard to let go in Canada and at what point does that happen? Just trying to put what you've said into perspective.

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First time poster (embarrassingly long time lurker)here. I don't know if this has been mentioned yet but in the extended preview on grapevine there is a PI of Kip. The lamp in the background matches the lamp in the "dismount guy" screencap. I think Kip is that guy and from the way he is positioned on the bed, I think it looks like he is not feeling well. That could be literally the problem in the bedroom and not at all what has been implied. Maybe that's the only reason for the no romance comment. On another note, I will truly be disappointed if it is not Reid as F1. Does anyone know where I can contact the 12 step program for this?
Good catch but it doesn't mean Kip is the dismount guy because he and Ed are staying at the same hotel and this PI looks like it's in the living room area of the suite and has different curtains from the dismount guy SC.
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. Nice catch there. We have pretty much narrowed down that Ed and Kip will be in the same hotel in Maui, which would explain the lamps.

We narrowed it down to Ed on the bed because of this:
-The guy on the bed and the guy closing the shutters are 2 different room types, which means 2 different guys
-The shutter guy clip was show in the premiere episode on May 18th
-Ed's FD wasn't until the 16th, so that would be a fast turnaround to get footage of his date in, thus eliminating him as the shutter guy
-Reid is seen in a bathtub with Jillian that has been matched to a different hotel meaning he is not shutter or bed guy
-Process of elimination put Ed as bed guy
Thank you for the welcome! How do we know Ed's date was the 16th? I am confused. I think it looks like Kip on the bed wearing the same cargo shorts from the bridge and zip line date. It does make sense that they are two different rooms from the same hotel. Is there any way Ed could be shutter guy?
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Thank you for the welcome! How do we know Ed's date was the 16th? I am confused. I think it looks like Kip on the bed wearing the same cargo shorts from the bridge and zip line date. It does make sense that they are two different rooms from the same hotel. Is there any way Ed could be shutter guy?
We know that Ed's date was on the 16th because of the magazine photo of Ed & Jillian on the boat that was in a Canadian magazine. Someone here emailed the photographer and he said the photo was taken on May 16th which was only 2 days before the season premier was aired. When you watch the other video of the massage guy you can see the shorts are long cargo shorts that look just like Ed's shorts in that photo from the magazine.
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Thank you for the welcome! How do we know Ed's date was the 16th? I am confused. I think it looks like Kip on the bed wearing the same cargo shorts from the bridge and zip line date. It does make sense that they are two different rooms from the same hotel. Is there any way Ed could be shutter guy?
There was a photo taken in Maui by a photographer that appeared in a Canadian mag. That photo was taken May 16th and was of Ed and Jillian's FD. We have matched the boat in the photo to the boat they are jumping off of in the previews. So we know Ed's date was the 16th which would essentially eliminate him as the shutter guy because that footage of the shutter guy was in the first episode which aired on the 18th. Not enough time to get footage from Ed into the premiere episode.
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We know that Ed's date was on the 16th because of the magazine photo of Ed & Jillian on the boat that was in a Canadian magazine. Someone here emailed the photographer and he said the photo was taken on May 16th which was only 2 days before the season premier was aired. When you watch the other video of the massage guy you can see the shorts are long cargo shorts that look just like Ed's shorts in that photo from the magazine.
Thank you! I defer to all of your expert sleuthing. Thought I was on to something... oh well.
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Thank you! I defer to all of your expert sleuthing. Thought I was on to something... oh well.
Don't let that stop you. I'm no expert and I certainly miss things. You may see something the rest of us miss.
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Thank you! I defer to all of your expert sleuthing. Thought I was on to something... oh well.
albean is right. Don't stop sleuthing.
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