Bachelorette 5 Sleuthing Thread **SPOILERS** - Page 881

StanleyCupCanes · 07-04-2009, 11:32 AM

Ok, thanks. I'm glad to hear it as that would be taking the script way too far.

I have always thought that the ending is that she opts for the guy that just wants to date over the guy that proposes as this would be a new ending.

However, the clip where she says that she woke up and knew she'd be engaged, etc. suggests otherwise. Maybe the strength of her feelings about the guy that proposes makes her realize that she needs to slow things down with the one she keeps and just date in the real world instead of getting engaged?

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MiniDiva · 07-04-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Arielflies

Unknown, of course, because while I can't read the future, I also can't read a hinted at past.

Speculation would be similar to the Jeremy situation, possibly, where the limo of tears also contained persons of influence who egged him on. Other speculation would be that the act of being rejected, brings the F2 into the light and, in his moment of clarity, knows he will regret it if he doesn't get the chance to put it all on the line. But, that speculation sounds more like Reid or even Ed, than Kiptyn.
My Proposer scenario is just that. From Jillian's words during the preview we know that someone returns to ask her to marry him, and that she gives his request consideration. Beyond that, we have a few screencaps and speculation based on edit.

So of the 3 guys left in Hawaii, you think the guys most likely to propose are Reid or Ed? Based on the Spain preview/SC's she treats Ed, Reid and Kiptyn equally and I can see all of them believing she would consider their marraige proposal, IMO. Possible exception is Ed as he may be pushing the relationship to the next level to make up for his absence.

I am torn between seeing the "love story" they want us to see (and I want to believe), vs. the one I don't see and the surprise ending. I wonder if she is so attracted to all 3 guys, that she chose no one so that she is free to see any of them after the final show airs -- after the contractual "no dating period" is over if that exists.

Alexxxx · 07-04-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by joliepaige

I'm not sure it will happen, but if the F3 could return why couldn't the F2?

Of course it could happen - anything could happen. It could even be crazy naked Brian of the infamous pool jump for all we know. JK, but I just think it's much less likely to be the F2 returning than others, mostly because of timing. JMHO

fan*addict · 07-04-2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MiniDiva

I wonder if she is so attracted to all 3 guys, that she chose no one so that she is free to see any of them after the final show airs -- after the contractual "no dating period" is over if that exists.

I think that she is attracted (at this point-going into Spain) to all of the F3 guys aHawaii is where things change, this seems to tie in with her interviews and the timeline of "knowing" who that ONE person was...I am guessing that "the Twist" is when someone OTHER than one of the F2 proposes to her...(If it was one of F2---no big twist)...she has said that it will leave us wondering if she chose someone, but the ending will make sense (Damn where are those interviews when I need them

) Anywho...I believe that she DOES choose someone but it will be unexplained (if only for a few TV moments)...

OR...maybe...we will get a "Survior type ending where the F2 appraoch...(the votes are in)..and we see the "winner" posthaste at the ATFR ceremony...of course we will need that fade in...music...so that we go from FRC location to the studio !

StanleyCupCanes · 07-04-2009, 11:40 AM

Since they've set the precedent of letting Ed return and visit her in her room after leaving the show, I can see where the returning proposer, F2, F3 or unknown guy, fully believes that he has the right to do it, too.

Alexxxx · 07-04-2009, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by StanleyCupCanes

Ok, thanks. I'm glad to hear it as that would be taking the script way too far.

I have always thought that the ending is that she opts for the guy that just wants to date over the guy that proposes as this would be a new ending.

However, the clip where she says that she woke up and knew she'd be engaged, etc. suggests otherwise. Maybe the strength of her feelings about the guy that proposes makes her realize that she needs to slow things down with the one she keeps and just date in the real world instead of getting engaged?

Now THIS would be a brilliant ending!

dancerljb · 07-04-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Color_wheel

I was remembering Kip's VO "Hawaii is definitely the land of romance," and we know the "no romance" problem happens in Hawaii. So I am wondering if it is with him. Jillian says something like "the one person who had everything and the romance just wasn't there," with a little giggle. That would describe Kip, and I know it would describe others too, but the physical attraction between her and Kip has really been emphasized, more than with the other two.

First time poster (embarrassingly long time lurker)here. I don't know if this has been mentioned yet but in the extended preview on grapevine there is a PI of Kip. The lamp in the background matches the lamp in the "dismount guy" screencap. I think Kip is that guy and from the way he is positioned on the bed, I think it looks like he is not feeling well. That could be literally the problem in the bedroom and not at all what has been implied. Maybe that's the only reason for the no romance comment. On another note, I will truly be disappointed if it is not Reid as F1. Does anyone know where I can contact the 12 step program for this?

nd4reality · 07-04-2009, 12:09 PM

"The guy that was so hard to let go off got down on one knee and proposed".

ED - He was so hard to let go off .............In Canada

I don't believe that the proposer is one of the guys she rejects at the F3/F2 Rose Ceremony, rather it is Ed who she found hard to let go off PREVIOUSLY.
That is why she wanted to think/reconsider her pick carefully.

My flag is planted on this one.

I also believe that she asked her F1 for more time to consider her options at which time he "told her things that were hard for her to hear". It is probably also the hugging guy. That scene was NOT a goodbye scene, she would have looked way more distraught in that. Rather she looked upset because she had asked for more time and he questioned her.

Thoughts ???????

realist 2 · 07-04-2009, 12:12 PM

Just my opinion, of course, but I think she has a great group of guys for her F3. They all seem very attentive to her and having a great time dating. Although I have been rooting for Ed, I don't think she could go wrong with Reid or Kip either. I think Kip is her "safe" #2 as he wouldn't take it as hard being let go as the other two. Even though he is interested in her, I could really see him getting cold feet at the end, and pulling back. He even talked to his sister about not doing anything rash. In the past I have sometimes thought F3 was let go because they were so crazy about the Bachelor/Bachelorette they would have the hardest time being rejected at the final rose ceremony. In any case, it is Jillian's decision, and I hope she picks someone that she will be happy with for the long haul.

Flori da · 07-04-2009, 12:21 PM

I can see it being either the F3 or the F2 returning to propose and especially after what happened last season with the balcony scene and Jason ending up with the F2. I'm sure TBTB allowed the guy to come back to propose for that reason and also for the ratings. I've never been one to think that TBTB don't care about a relationship coming from this show. Look how they proudly parade Trista and Ryan on every season of this show. That's not to say that exploitation doesn't happen on this show. If you give them the material they will run with it.

07-04-2009, 11:32 AM	#8801
StanleyCupCanes Lovely Lilly! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,747	Re: Bachelorette 5 Sleuthing Thread SPOILERS Ok, thanks. I'm glad to hear it as that would be taking the script way too far. I have always thought that the ending is that she opts for the guy that just wants to date over the guy that proposes as this would be a new ending. However, the clip where she says that she woke up and knew she'd be engaged, etc. suggests otherwise. Maybe the strength of her feelings about the guy that proposes makes her realize that she needs to slow things down with the one she keeps and just date in the real world instead of getting engaged?

07-04-2009, 11:40 AM	#8805
StanleyCupCanes Lovely Lilly! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,747	Re: Bachelorette 5 Sleuthing Thread SPOILERS Since they've set the precedent of letting Ed return and visit her in her room after leaving the show, I can see where the returning proposer, F2, F3 or unknown guy, fully believes that he has the right to do it, too.

07-04-2009, 12:09 PM	#8808
nd4reality FORT Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 439	Re: Bachelorette 5 Sleuthing Thread SPOILERS "The guy that was so hard to let go off got down on one knee and proposed". ED - He was so hard to let go off .............In Canada I don't believe that the proposer is one of the guys she rejects at the F3/F2 Rose Ceremony, rather it is Ed who she found hard to let go off PREVIOUSLY. That is why she wanted to think/reconsider her pick carefully. My flag is planted on this one. I also believe that she asked her F1 for more time to consider her options at which time he "told her things that were hard for her to hear". It is probably also the hugging guy. That scene was NOT a goodbye scene, she would have looked way more distraught in that. Rather she looked upset because she had asked for more time and he questioned her. Thoughts ??????? __________________ On the Kiptyn Surfboard ..........till and if he gets knocked off by the wave of rejection.

07-04-2009, 12:12 PM	#8809
realist 2 FORT Newbie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 22	Re: Bachelorette 5 Sleuthing Thread SPOILERS Just my opinion, of course, but I think she has a great group of guys for her F3. They all seem very attentive to her and having a great time dating. Although I have been rooting for Ed, I don't think she could go wrong with Reid or Kip either. I think Kip is her "safe" #2 as he wouldn't take it as hard being let go as the other two. Even though he is interested in her, I could really see him getting cold feet at the end, and pulling back. He even talked to his sister about not doing anything rash. In the past I have sometimes thought F3 was let go because they were so crazy about the Bachelor/Bachelorette they would have the hardest time being rejected at the final rose ceremony. In any case, it is Jillian's decision, and I hope she picks someone that she will be happy with for the long haul.

07-04-2009, 12:21 PM	#8810
Flori da FORT Fanatic Join Date: May 2008 Location: south of da 'Burgh! Posts: 401	Re: Bachelorette 5 Sleuthing Thread SPOILERS I can see it being either the F3 or the F2 returning to propose and especially after what happened last season with the balcony scene and Jason ending up with the F2. I'm sure TBTB allowed the guy to come back to propose for that reason and also for the ratings. I've never been one to think that TBTB don't care about a relationship coming from this show. Look how they proudly parade Trista and Ryan on every season of this show. That's not to say that exploitation doesn't happen on this show. If you give them the material they will run with it.