Bachelorette 5 Sleuthing Thread **SPOILERS**

[I'msotired]

Originally Posted by Bubbles245

Can anyone fill me in? I just got done watching the episodes online and I'm so out of the loop. From the little I read here people are speculating that Ed might get the final rose. How is that possible? He left! And, I find it hard to believe that Wes gets as far along as he does...he sounds like a real snake.

Anyway, do we have an idea yet about who the final 4 or even 2 are?

Well, you COULD always read back through the 80,000 posts, lol.

In a nutshell, we have NO idea who F1 is. The consensus is that the guys in Spain are Reid, Kip, Wes, Ed and possibly Jesse. The F3 in Hawaii are thought to be Kip, Ed and Reid, with my hopeful opinion that one is Jesse.

Picture of Ed on a boat in Maui, possible SC of Kip on a bridge and zipline.
Debated pic of Reid on a bed, but once again, my hope that Jesse is there, too.

Ed left, but he comes back - we think at the HTD RC but not sure.

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[joliepaige]

Originally Posted by Bloomers

I hate to burst everyone's bubble, but unfortunately Wes is the one who didn't really want to be there. That info comes from Kasha who told us it was well known to the crew and CH ( but not Jillian unfortunately) that Wes was there ( with acknowledgment of girlfriend) for the exposure. He was ready to go and record.
I can't begin to tell you what thread that was on, but it was only a few days ago. I wasn't clear how far Wes actually went before he bailed. The question will be how they make it look?
With Graham it was supposed to look like DeAnna rejected him, but of course that made absolutely no sense since he came prepared with the goodbye letter in his hand, and she carried on the way that she did.
It will be interesting to see exactly how it is handled, though.
The thing I did get out of that was that Jillian was not in on it with Wes and the producers.

BTW, for anyone reading ( and not familiar) who may be questioning, Kasha has gotten this kind of info for us before. She is reliable.

I don't understand why CH wouldn't at least try to steer Jillian in the right direction; but I guess it worked out well for the producers that she seemed to really like him. I wonder if she is aggravated with herself now?

[VelvetRed]

atem, I interpreted the magazine info to be a photo shoot with Jillian and F1, or even photo shoots with her and each of the F4-5(Ed coming back). IOW, why would a magazine photograph Jillian and a non-F1?

When I wondered about it, I recalled how we had the photos of Jason and Melissa on the yacht in NZ, early, which I guess falls into the category that Capegal mentions below?

Originally Posted by Capegal

They were supposedly photographed by a local photographer in Hawaii - and it was sold to Hello Mag in Canada - not an 'official' SC

Thanks!

I didn't see any details of it posted. I see now that if it was what I first mentioned above, this board would have exploded about knowing the F1 for sure! And no one would still be trying to figure it out.

[VelvetRed]

Originally Posted by seeker

With 20 guys staying after opening night and a 20% budget cut did Fleiss have to get creative with modes of transportation too? We have had Sasha on a bus, Dave and Juan in separate cabs , Mike on a gondola, Mark walking out with no vehicle in sight, Robby gets tossed out of a train in the middle of Canada, Jesse probably gets a car ride back to Carmel Valley and Tanner P, the foot fetish, by foot. All modes of transporation this season. We haven't seen a bike, motorbike, or boat yet. Maybe that will come in HI.

LOL, I am hearing Paul Simon's "50 Ways To Leave Your Lover" in my head now.

[bamabrain]

Originally Posted by Just LQQking

EXACTLY!!!! They can manipulate everything else but time....time is the one thing in life that you can't change.

Don't tell those aboard the Starship Enterprise--or the Fleiss fleet. Editing splicing and dicing of TPTB proves Einstein's relativity--if not in an Einsteinian manner.

[holly1959]

Originally Posted by nutty1

Thanks Bloomers - no surprise about Wes. What shocks me is that in so many interviews, she speaks so positively of him??

The only thing I can fathom about how she speaks of him is that when he was with her, he was, at all times, polite and gentlemanly to her. He never treated her badly, comforted her, was never rude to her and was basically just nice to her. Agenda aside, it was one of those two-sided things. What the other guys, crew, and we saw was one thing, but when he was with her he was different. Jillian also strikes me as someone who will find good in everyone and never speak ill of anyone. Not that she's phony, she just sees things on the positive side of life for herself and those around her. At work she probably gets along with the one person that drives everyone else up the wall, etc.. She's definitely a glass half full person.

[holly1959]

Originally Posted by Capegal

It is customary to walk the F3 and F2 - not the F4

But this season is so different....F4 is on a Fantasy type of date. Remember they said all the rules were thrown out the window. I am supposing it's becasue there were more men, more dates and the show is longer by a few weeks.

As I read the boards and see the PROS like you Capegal, and Bloomers, Cape, and others thrown for loops I don't feel so bad that I cannot figure anything out. Where has Lellis been this year...she was always so good too.

[holly1959]

Originally Posted by ZG_Champion

Someone suggested F3 might leave by canoe. Now, that would be funny, no?

Or zip line or kayak........

[kultainen]

Originally Posted by holly1959

Or zip line or kayak........

Well, if F3 is Kip and we are in Hawaii...why not by his surfboard, dude?

[justaham]

So if I were to buy what CH is selling….Ed – and only Ed – can save Microsoft from losing a major account? Microsoft, the global software industry leader, employing thousands of the brightest technical minds in the business has an account that can only be saved by Ed? Out of all the brilliant folks that work for the company, only Ed has the answers for this client – not anyone on his team, not even his boss, no one else in the company? And Microsoft allowed Ed to venture off for several weeks to a Reality Show with all this “knowledge” and without assigning a suitable replacement to satisfy client needs? Really? I guess Microsoft can operate without Bill Gates, but not Ed. This is just a really tough sell for me.

While I agree with your post, I partly believe that the "customer is demanding Ed" to come back and fix their problem. I have worked in the software industry for a number of years, especially with the Consulting Group. Once a consultant has handled the customer for a number of months (sometimes even years), that is the only person who can understand the software and architectural environment of the customer, especially if the customer solutions involved content management and customer relationship management. The customer may have other applications deployed that work with Microsoft applications that only Ed knows how the softwares work together. It is hard for another person to come in and invent the wheel again. Sofware deplyoment may look easy but not when you cross-function that with other manufacturers' applications. Reinventing the wheel may cost the customer hundreds of thousands of dollars and hundreds of man-hours which the customer may not be willing to do, especially if the MS application is the depth and breadth of their business.