The Aftermath

Vet_Tech · 07-04-2008, 10:44 AM

Ok this is going to be the last thread and the last post for this FORT that I add before Monday's episode.

I posted this in other threads but it seem like some of you still don't understand. First I want to say this on what I know about filming...I don't know much, but what I know is that my SO works for ABC here in Chicago. He did many internships in LA for 2 yrs and worked there for 3 yrs. So he knows the ins and outs for TV Shows, Reality Programs (since he worked for one that was filmed here in Chicago where he fell in love with the city), and films. Since we've been dating for 2 yrs you come to realize to views things differently on TV and Films and being told how directors, producers, and crew members work. On this note:

It's all about the AFTERMATH. Yes, there is a love story that is being for told but it's funny how we have Cape whom has been told by sources whom are paid audiences for AFTR show are saying Jesse is F1 and before that we had crew sources saying Jason is F1. Which to my SO speaks volumes. Yes there was a paid audience/extras at the AFTR show which indeed had to sign a contract as well, but we are not sure what was in that contract and what was told to them before the taping since they are a paid audience their contracts or maybe even what they were told before hand was stated to tell everyone that Jesse is F1. But what my SO also finds interesting is that at the MTA there was a normal audience which also had to sign a contract and it seems like none of them still aren't able to discuss what was said at the taping due to a $5 million fine.

All I can say is go back and watch Dee's interviews before the 6/4 cut episode. All those interviews speak volumes!!! We have the DTA, which was filmed after she has chosen her F1. And to me it seems that was taped after her BBQ "monster scene" episode was aired. In the DTA, we have her discussing to CH how she has watched every episode with her family and how it was difficult for her and her family to watch that scene, since she was upset. Unless Fleiss had requested that she add that statement in there.
Even during the DTA we have CH ask her about Jason and that smile speaks volumes!!! That smile is made clear when the camera is on her side panned out, but she hides it once the camera is in front of her. CH had also asked her if she was happy with what has been shown so far, and I believe she says that yes, she's extremely happy.

Let's see what has been shown to that point regarding the final 2 bach. Jason has been shown making that love connection with her that fairy tale ending. Jesse has only been shown as receiving the FIR, the NB concert, and as the Devil's Advocate. Remember Jesse didn't even kiss her even though she wanted him to, that was told to us after the DTA 6/4 cut episode.

Earlier interviews before the DTA, we have the Jimmy Kimmel show, where we have Dee wearing the same bracelets that she wore on the FD with Jason. We have the Ellen show which was taped 2 weeks after the she had picked her F1 and Jason was even brought up by Ellen, and that as well speaks volumes...

The answer is there, the love story is being told, but it's funny how once we reached our 2 bach. in all the interviews that were done by Dee on July 2nd even her Conference Call adds doubt on whom she chose for F1 which is exactly what Fleiss and Dee want to leave it a surprise. The only thing that caught my attention on that conference call is that her fiance wants to shout it to the world that they are engaged, go back and out of the final 2 bach that are left who fits that characteristic. Who is the one that is always excited to see her and isn't afraid to show it in public?

Go back to every interview that she has done before and after the show aired and there is only 1 line that she makes besides "I am happy how the show ended" There has to be a twist to everything, every TV Show, and Film. Even after we see their love journey unfold, there is always that one character that leaves a doubt in our minds to make us think differently.

The AFTERMATH which was shown to us before the show aired and during the 1 1/2 month of the show during her interviews speak volumes!!!

We say that Jesse is more daring and adventures for Dee b/c he does an Xtreme Sport. I would deeply disagree. We have Jason whom has gone back pack hiking in Europe even when his mom questioned it. He loves sports, even his mom makes that comment during their HTD in Seattle. He has a wild side which we see in the Bahamas and he is glad that Dee got to see that and emphasizes that yes he has a conservative side when it comes to TY b/c he is extremely important to him but that is only a part of him. And even puts his love for Dee at the same level as TY.

All I say is go back at look at the AFTERMATH!!!!

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coltinfan · 07-04-2008, 11:00 AM

i will say you are so spot on everything people are seeing,jason cannot be
smiling any larger without saying i am it i am the one to be the prince charming
of this whole series,however i am scared to death what has came out
the last 2days(i diffently need a life)as saying jesse is the one finally
wins out. but now it is saying on a b c media net dot com that the
engagement show is off. i do no i alway kinda laugh at people i am
not going to watch this show if i don't get my fairy tale ending now
i am one of them.so sad

girlsmom · 07-04-2008, 11:04 AM

The bottom line is that the filmed Engagement Party has been put on hold and replaced with a repeat of Where are They Now. They claim there are some additions, but this was never on the horizon before. So: Why would they cancel the celebration party for a popular couple including the adorable son? There is no reason other than that is NOT the ending. I can't believe that Fleiss and ABC would allow the couple to break off their engagement overnight, so my only guess is that the backlash is such that they fear that the ratings for the filmed show would be in the dumper. I can only imagine the phone calls. I suppose that the Engagement Party could have been such a dud that the execs saw it and gave it a no go, but either way it's conceivable to me that Jason was the chosen one at the Engagement Party.No way, but that's just my thinking.

Shannonm93 · 07-04-2008, 11:18 AM

Even though I have a theory about what happened and I think that by the time everything is said and done (i.e., when the ATFR was taped) that she chooses Jesse (although per my theory I'm not too sure it started out that way) I will be watching on Monday to see if a miracle does happen and she does choose Jason.

Jammie · 07-04-2008, 11:20 AM

Come Monday you are going to owe cape a big apology.

LAlady · 07-04-2008, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vet_Tech

Ok this is going to be the last thread and the last post for this FORT that I add before Monday's episode.

I posted this in other threads but it seem like some of you still don't understand. First I want to say this on what I know about filming...I don't know much, but what I know is that my SO works for ABC here in Chicago. He did many internships in LA for 2 yrs and worked there for 3 yrs. So he knows the ins and outs for TV Shows, Reality Programs (since he worked for one that was filmed here in Chicago where he fell in love with the city), and films. Since we've been dating for 2 yrs you come to realize to views things differently on TV and Films and being told how directors, producers, and crew members work. On this note:

It's all about the AFTERMATH. Yes, there is a love story that is being for told but it's funny how we have Cape whom has been told by sources whom are paid audiences for AFTR show are saying Jesse is F1 and before that we had crew sources saying Jason is F1. Which to my SO speaks volumes. Yes there was a paid audience/extras at the AFTR show which indeed had to sign a contract as well, but we are not sure what was in that contract and what was told to them before the taping since they are a paid audience their contracts or maybe even what they were told before hand was stated to tell everyone that Jesse is F1. But what my SO also finds interesting is that at the MTA there was a normal audience which also had to sign a contract and it seems like none of them still aren't able to discuss what was said at the taping due to a $5 million fine.

All I can say is go back and watch Dee's interviews before the 6/4 cut episode. All those interviews speak volumes!!! We have the DTA, which was filmed after she has chosen her F1. And to me it seems that was taped after her BBQ "monster scene" episode was aired. In the DTA, we have her discussing to CH how she has watched every episode with her family and how it was difficult for her and her family to watch that scene, since she was upset. Unless Fleiss had requested that she add that statement in there.
Even during the DTA we have CH ask her about Jason and that smile speaks volumes!!! That smile is made clear when the camera is on her side panned out, but she hides it once the camera is in front of her. CH had also asked her if she was happy with what has been shown so far, and I believe she says that yes, she's extremely happy.

Let's see what has been shown to that point regarding the final 2 bach. Jason has been shown making that love connection with her that fairy tale ending. Jesse has only been shown as receiving the FIR, the NB concert, and as the Devil's Advocate. Remember Jesse didn't even kiss her even though she wanted him to, that was told to us after the DTA 6/4 cut episode.

Earlier interviews before the DTA, we have the Jimmy Kimmel show, where we have Dee wearing the same bracelets that she wore on the FD with Jason. We have the Ellen show which was taped 2 weeks after the she had picked her F1 and Jason was even brought up by Ellen, and that as well speaks volumes...

The answer is there, the love story is being told, but it's funny how once we reached our 2 bach. in all the interviews that were done by Dee on July 2nd even her Conference Call adds doubt on whom she chose for F1 which is exactly what Fleiss and Dee want to leave it a surprise. The only thing that caught my attention on that conference call is that her fiance wants to shout it to the world that they are engaged, go back and out of the final 2 bach that are left who fits that characteristic. Who is the one that is always excited to see her and isn't afraid to show it in public?

Go back to every interview that she has done before and after the show aired and there is only 1 line that she makes besides "I am happy how the show ended" There has to be a twist to everything, every TV Show, and Film. Even after we see their love journey unfold, there is always that one character that leaves a doubt in our minds to make us think differently.

The AFTERMATH which was shown to us before the show aired and during the 1 1/2 month of the show during her interviews speak volumes!!!

We say that Jesse is more daring and adventures for Dee b/c he does an Xtreme Sport. I would deeply disagree. We have Jason whom has gone back pack hiking in Europe even when his mom questioned it. He loves sports, even his mom makes that comment during their HTD in Seattle. He has a wild side which we see in the Bahamas and he is glad that Dee got to see that and emphasizes that yes he has a conservative side when it comes to TY b/c he is extremely important to him but that is only a part of him. And even puts his love for Dee at the same level as TY.

All I say is go back at look at the AFTERMATH!!!!

You are sooo right ON!!!! Thanks for taking the time to post this amazing view of what many of us all see!!

Jammie · 07-04-2008, 11:29 AM

BTW, De had to say she was 'happy with how the show ended' because that is what she was coached to say. They did not wanting her giving away the big reveal too early in the season. That's always been a given.

coltinfan · 07-04-2008, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jammie

Come Monday you are going to owe cape a big apology.

jammie you have come to other side too, i think people just want so
bad for jason and deanna they absolutely look like they were made
for each other, oh well

LAlady · 07-04-2008, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coltinfan

jammie you have come to other side too, i think people just want so
bad for jason and deanna they absolutely look like they were made
for each other, oh well

I don't think they look like they were made for each other, but we were given an edit to make it look thay way!!! That's what all the fuss is about!!!

sushifan · 07-04-2008, 11:36 AM

I have to say, Vet Tech, your green thread confused me and this one does too.

Are you saying your SO thinks Jason wins? I have several family members who work in the TV arena -- unfortunately all of them could care less about this show and think I'm insane

-- but I couldn't possibly extrapolate the winner from their generalized knowledge of TV. Cape, on the other hand, is a long-time poster here and has known the outcome of several of the previous seasons before they aired. If, after careful consideration and vetting of sources, she comes on here and posts information, I'm inclined to believe it.

07-04-2008, 10:44 AM	#1
Vet_Tech FORT Fan Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 176	The Aftermath Ok this is going to be the last thread and the last post for this FORT that I add before Monday's episode. I posted this in other threads but it seem like some of you still don't understand. First I want to say this on what I know about filming...I don't know much, but what I know is that my SO works for ABC here in Chicago. He did many internships in LA for 2 yrs and worked there for 3 yrs. So he knows the ins and outs for TV Shows, Reality Programs (since he worked for one that was filmed here in Chicago where he fell in love with the city), and films. Since we've been dating for 2 yrs you come to realize to views things differently on TV and Films and being told how directors, producers, and crew members work. On this note: It's all about the AFTERMATH. Yes, there is a love story that is being for told but it's funny how we have Cape whom has been told by sources whom are paid audiences for AFTR show are saying Jesse is F1 and before that we had crew sources saying Jason is F1. Which to my SO speaks volumes. Yes there was a paid audience/extras at the AFTR show which indeed had to sign a contract as well, but we are not sure what was in that contract and what was told to them before the taping since they are a paid audience their contracts or maybe even what they were told before hand was stated to tell everyone that Jesse is F1. But what my SO also finds interesting is that at the MTA there was a normal audience which also had to sign a contract and it seems like none of them still aren't able to discuss what was said at the taping due to a $5 million fine. All I can say is go back and watch Dee's interviews before the 6/4 cut episode. All those interviews speak volumes!!! We have the DTA, which was filmed after she has chosen her F1. And to me it seems that was taped after her BBQ "monster scene" episode was aired. In the DTA, we have her discussing to CH how she has watched every episode with her family and how it was difficult for her and her family to watch that scene, since she was upset. Unless Fleiss had requested that she add that statement in there. Even during the DTA we have CH ask her about Jason and that smile speaks volumes!!! That smile is made clear when the camera is on her side panned out, but she hides it once the camera is in front of her. CH had also asked her if she was happy with what has been shown so far, and I believe she says that yes, she's extremely happy. Let's see what has been shown to that point regarding the final 2 bach. Jason has been shown making that love connection with her that fairy tale ending. Jesse has only been shown as receiving the FIR, the NB concert, and as the Devil's Advocate. Remember Jesse didn't even kiss her even though she wanted him to, that was told to us after the DTA 6/4 cut episode. Earlier interviews before the DTA, we have the Jimmy Kimmel show, where we have Dee wearing the same bracelets that she wore on the FD with Jason. We have the Ellen show which was taped 2 weeks after the she had picked her F1 and Jason was even brought up by Ellen, and that as well speaks volumes... The answer is there, the love story is being told, but it's funny how once we reached our 2 bach. in all the interviews that were done by Dee on July 2nd even her Conference Call adds doubt on whom she chose for F1 which is exactly what Fleiss and Dee want to leave it a surprise. The only thing that caught my attention on that conference call is that her fiance wants to shout it to the world that they are engaged, go back and out of the final 2 bach that are left who fits that characteristic. Who is the one that is always excited to see her and isn't afraid to show it in public? Go back to every interview that she has done before and after the show aired and there is only 1 line that she makes besides "I am happy how the show ended" There has to be a twist to everything, every TV Show, and Film. Even after we see their love journey unfold, there is always that one character that leaves a doubt in our minds to make us think differently. The AFTERMATH which was shown to us before the show aired and during the 1 1/2 month of the show during her interviews speak volumes!!! We say that Jesse is more daring and adventures for Dee b/c he does an Xtreme Sport. I would deeply disagree. We have Jason whom has gone back pack hiking in Europe even when his mom questioned it. He loves sports, even his mom makes that comment during their HTD in Seattle. He has a wild side which we see in the Bahamas and he is glad that Dee got to see that and emphasizes that yes he has a conservative side when it comes to TY b/c he is extremely important to him but that is only a part of him. And even puts his love for Dee at the same level as TY. All I say is go back at look at the AFTERMATH!!!!

07-04-2008, 11:00 AM	#2
coltinfan FORT Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 123	Re: The Aftermath i will say you are so spot on everything people are seeing,jason cannot be smiling any larger without saying i am it i am the one to be the prince charming of this whole series,however i am scared to death what has came out the last 2days(i diffently need a life)as saying jesse is the one finally wins out. but now it is saying on a b c media net dot com that the engagement show is off. i do no i alway kinda laugh at people i am not going to watch this show if i don't get my fairy tale ending now i am one of them.so sad

07-04-2008, 11:04 AM	#3
girlsmom FORT Fogey Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,411	Re: The Aftermath The bottom line is that the filmed Engagement Party has been put on hold and replaced with a repeat of Where are They Now. They claim there are some additions, but this was never on the horizon before. So: Why would they cancel the celebration party for a popular couple including the adorable son? There is no reason other than that is NOT the ending. I can't believe that Fleiss and ABC would allow the couple to break off their engagement overnight, so my only guess is that the backlash is such that they fear that the ratings for the filmed show would be in the dumper. I can only imagine the phone calls. I suppose that the Engagement Party could have been such a dud that the execs saw it and gave it a no go, but either way it's conceivable to me that Jason was the chosen one at the Engagement Party.No way, but that's just my thinking.

07-04-2008, 11:18 AM	#4
Shannonm93 Jason, Ty and FORT Fan! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Atlanta/Roswell, GA Posts: 2,179	Re: The Aftermath Even though I have a theory about what happened and I think that by the time everything is said and done (i.e., when the ATFR was taped) that she chooses Jesse (although per my theory I'm not too sure it started out that way) I will be watching on Monday to see if a miracle does happen and she does choose Jason.

07-04-2008, 11:20 AM	#5
Jammie I LOVE LAMP Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: MO, USA Posts: 942 Blog Entries: 3	Re: The Aftermath Come Monday you are going to owe cape a big apology.

07-04-2008, 11:29 AM	#7
Jammie I LOVE LAMP Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: MO, USA Posts: 942 Blog Entries: 3	Re: The Aftermath BTW, De had to say she was 'happy with how the show ended' because that is what she was coached to say. They did not wanting her giving away the big reveal too early in the season. That's always been a given.

07-04-2008, 11:36 AM	#10
sushifan FORT Fan Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 350	Re: The Aftermath I have to say, Vet Tech, your green thread confused me and this one does too. Are you saying your SO thinks Jason wins? I have several family members who work in the TV arena -- unfortunately all of them could care less about this show and think I'm insane -- but I couldn't possibly extrapolate the winner from their generalized knowledge of TV. Cape, on the other hand, is a long-time poster here and has known the outcome of several of the previous seasons before they aired. If, after careful consideration and vetting of sources, she comes on here and posts information, I'm inclined to believe it.