The Aftermath

[armywife]

Originally Posted by grneyedgirl

But if she would have cut him sooner because of TY, people would have harped on her because she didn't give him a fair chance because he has a child. I think she was in a lose/lose situation.

And DeAnna didn't show Ty over and over again, that was Fleiss that did that.

Exactly! That is what I was trying to say last night!

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[freethinker]

Originally Posted by helcat

I don't care how much everyone goes on and one this weekend, I'm not buying it until I see for my own eyes on Monday.

Yeay for you helcat! We may be in the minority, but I'm with you!!!

[julianna]

Originally Posted by freethinker

There are several pages of posts after this one, but just in case no one has mentioned it, Trista has the dubious distinction of being the very first person eliminated from Dancing With the Stars.

Oh yes, forgot about that one!

And Mary had a mug shot.

[Shannonm93]

Originally Posted by Phyllie

I think Jason always got the comforting friend edit. Her body language, her facial expressions, and her words always showed that...I mentioned it several times. Also, I think Twilley and Jason saw him as a contender, and discussed it at the pool in Palm Springs but the conversation was cryptic and maybe was misinterpreted by many...

This was posted by PiperMaru in the Behind the Edit thread... Even at this point, I think Jeremy and Graham were considered frontrunners, and Jesse. THey were trying to figure out the fourth, and speculating if it would be Jason...


The bolded is the BINGO. THey did consider Jesse a frontrunner...we just didn't because of the abundance of Jason screencaps, and the abundance of very vocal Jason cheerleaders.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm not sure that I believe that if they had asked any one of these guys who they thought the frontrunners were that they would've included themselves and IMO, if they did that would be kind of arrogant, because the bottom line is none of these guys knew for absolute certain what the other three guys had with her. Sure they may have all guessed and had good instincts but I don't believe that any of them could have ever known for sure. So I personally think if all of them had been asked their response would've been the same as Jason's, i.e., "I don't know if I'm the fourth". JMO. Thanks!

[sunnymicki]

Originally Posted by Shedee

And what about the "reliable sources" that maintain Jason is the F!?

But WHAT reliable sources? Who are they, where are they, and why aren't they speaking up right now??

From what I have read, it seems that the theory of Jason as F1 really came down to people picking apart screencaps in ways that may or may not have been accurate. Nothing solid.

Honestly, I am a Jesse fan, and see something developing between him and DeAnna, but I don't care enough about this show that I can't see both men in a positive light. If she picked Jason, I think that would be cool too. And I'd like to hear it if there is someone out there who definitively knows this. I just don't think there is.

[casualfan]

Originally Posted by Lellis819

If you are as outraged as I am after you read the blod that I post here well, join me in seeking the Truth from ABC, DeAnna and all involved! Make them admit we were lied to...Jason above all should be aware of this even if it's not true...he could decide if he wants to seek out the truth or not! I am LIVID and want them to be accountable....We need to send out a backlash that will slap these people back into reality! Trust me we can do it ABC cancelled the Engagement Party Show 3 hours after we broke the F1 news On Thursday...We have more power than you know! I for one am going to use it....Please read the blog!

The post says it's from an employee's blog:

"Fleiss laid a bunch of us off after taping ended. I can tell you he is a devious man who cast aside any concern for the welfare of others. DeAnna is a determined yet naive young woman who is being wooed by the promise of celebrity. She was set on Jason. He all but had it in the bag then Fleiss put doubt in her head about Jason's ex being a problem. He told her Jason said he would never leave Seattle (he didn't say that) He told her if she had children with Jason there would always be conflict with Ty. She had told all of us Jason was her soul mate. The chemistry was awesome between the two of them. Jesse was well liked by us as well. He is a very charming man, quick witted , FLIRTATIOUS as well as determined to win. Not saying he doesn't want Deanna in his life but he has alot of living to do before he gives into her desires. Fleiuss convinced her he was the one who truly had her best interests at heart. She has talked herself out of Jason and into being in love with Jesse. They had a load of fun but not the chemistry she had with Jason. Maybe either one would do. It happens.The last 24 hours of taping, no one went home. Fleiss kept us there on hold. She picked Jason. Fleiss picked Jesse. DeAnna comes across very strong willed but she wasn't a match for Fleiss's manipulations. I have seen it before. So much manipulation during Lorenzo's season, it was UNfrigging real. There is a reason Jennifer dropped off the face of the earth. She was a threat to his empire. She was not happy being coerced to pretend love existed. Lorenzo was a tool that Fleiss took advantage of. Last season was scripted. Meeps knows this as well as the others. Fleiss gives big incentives to be quiet. He is a power house in L.A. There is a reason it was a closed set even to production staff. Fleiss knew even we were pissed at how he manipulated. Ty was indeed a cutie pie. I think he will be OK. Happy viewing on Monday. It won't last 6 months."

I am sending to all my sources and getting them to send out to theirs...I am calm now a few hours ago, well you could have cooked an egg on me. If this disappears I hope you have copied the post to your documents and keep putting it out there, on all the boards and to anyone that can help find the truth.

Gosh, I'm so sorry for those huge fans of DeAnna that because she doesn't pick Jason changes their outlook on her.

I did read this post on aol message boards this morning. I don't think it's true for these reasons:

1. If this person was laid off, and they wanted to stay in the industry, there is NO way they would publicly post on a message board because it would greatly jeopardize their career
2. Doesn't the use of the term "Fleiss" throw anyone a curve ball? Most people would say "I was laid off by next entertainment". I also had heard somewhere that Fleiss has given some new producers a lot of control over the past two seasons, I highly doubt HE would be convincing DeAnna. It would be her assigned producer or handler
3. What in the world would be the motivation to choose Jesse over Jason?? TPTB are not stupid, they know Jason will be well received when the show is aired, they would much rather go for a Tessa (sweetheart) and Andy finale than a Shayne and Matt ending.
4. Why would this person post where they posted? A random AOL message board, filled with people who don't even know who "Fleiss" is, per the comments following the post.

I feel so badly for Jason and his fans, because it's going to be really awful to watch him hurt on Monday night. I only hope that all 3 of the last people involved in the show find their own happiness, wherever and whatever that may be.

Could it be possible that she actually saw forever with Jesse? And had to let go of a fantastic man. I guess the benefit to society is that he is still out there for the single ladies

[atem]

Originally Posted by Phyllie

I think Jason always got the comforting friend edit. Her body language, her facial expressions, and her words always showed that...I mentioned it several times. Also, I think Twilley and Jason saw Jesse as a contender, and discussed it at the pool in Palm Springs but the conversation was cryptic and maybe was misinterpreted by many...

This was posted by PiperMaru in the Behind the Edit thread... Even at this point, I think Jeremy and Graham were considered frontrunners, and Jesse. THey were trying to figure out the fourth, and speculating if it would be Jason...


The bolded is the BINGO. THey did consider Jesse a frontrunner...we just didn't because of the abundance of Jason screencaps, and the abundance of very vocal Jason cheerleaders.

Actually, I read in an interview that she said that her top 2 from the start ended up being cut...

[thethreej's]

I just want it to be over already. Even though I am glad I know ahead of time, I really think a week is too long to be able to dwell on this. I am shocked that Fleiss did the ATFRC taping so early before the finale. I always thought it was because of the 4th of July weekend, but if Fleiss says they work on Sunday, they work on Sunday. None of this season makes sense, and I dont think it will make anymore sense on Monday.

[kkbaker]

I am just curious why there would be such a positive edit for Jason as F1 if he wasn't?
Has that ever happend before? Maybe Shayne/Amanda? I have read somewhere on here ( in the millions of pages that I've been obsessing over) that there are new editors/and/or producers in the last few seasons... could that explain why Jason was so obvious and we didn't see Jesse coming?
I was right on every season until Brads, so I really thought I'd be right this time w/ Jason- b/c the backlash from Brad/Matt seasons were so negative.
I really wanted a love story- That is why I watch. I can't imagine that anyone (except for a precious few) saw Jesse as F1. Then, we get inside info on his promoting his "brand" and texting his g/f and we just KNEW it was Jason, then. Im so confused. I want to come to the realization of this so that either I:
A.) Can watch Mon knowing that Jason is heartbroken and am ok w/ that.
or
B.) Don't watch and just wait for it to be posted and am ok w/ that, too.
This shouldn't matter to me one bit... but it does

[cantstopwatchin]

Originally Posted by helcat

That reminds me to mention. It seems awful suspicious to me that we have all of this "insider" information about the ATFR but no mention from any source about Matt and Shayne.

I don't care how much everyone goes on and one this weekend, I'm not buying it until I see for my own eyes on Monday.

I heard that Matt & Shayne were cute though not on stage for very long. Also, they were not seen interacting at all though they stood next to each other while waiting to get up on stage.