The Aftermath

[TVJunkie1963]

Originally Posted by KaraT

Of course you're entitled to your feelings.

But there seems to be a lack of recognition that this story is repeated during every single season of The Bachelor/ette. As wonderful as Jason is (and I do believe he is) he isn't unique in being misled and then publicly dumped on national television on this show. That is the cruel nature of the show. The only thing that makes Jason different is that he happened to have an adorable son that the fans fell in love with as well.

I mean no disrespect toward Jason, because I like him, but honestly why is it more awful to mislead him and break his heart just because he is a single father? For those who have had their hearts broken at least once in their lives (which I feel pretty confident is all of us here), rejection is rejection, heartbreak is heartbreak, and pain is pain...regardless of your situation in life.

I feel for Jason, just as I felt for Jeremy and all the other contestants who have had to face the same rejection on this show. But Jason signed up for this show the same as the other men did, took his chances the same as them, and was aware of this own personal family situation when he agreed to take those risks.

When DeAnna let previous contestants go, most posters bemoaned the contestant's hurt and rejection, but assured each other in numerous posts here on this forum that DeAnna had not and would not lead any of these men on. According to many posts, DeAnna was "real" and "blunt" and "far more kind" than any other previous TB and she was beloved for it...it was as if her virtues were like a shining beacon of Bachelor/ette-dom to which all previous and subsequent TB's could only aspire. And that was true, as long as she was choosing the board favorite. Same thing happened to Matt last season, and other TB's in previous seasons.

Once it becomes known that TB may NOT be choosing the board favorite, the giddy "we're seeing a real love story" postings stop, the rose colored glasses come off, the tide of sentiment turns against him/her, and suddenly people claim to see TB for "who they really are" and the vilification begins.

The clues to who DeAnna "really is" were there all along, most just chose to ignore them. And had she chosen Jason instead of Jesse, she would still be that same person. My opinion of DeAnna has not changed because she did not choose my personal favorite...in fact, I was thankful she did not, as much as it hurt to see his pain. But if DeAnna and Jesse are happy with each other, then great. It was her choice, and everyone deserves to be happy. My opinion as to whether it will last is another story.

Sorry for the long post. And, as always, JMO.

From the tone of your response, I get the feeling that you totally missed the point of my post.

And I never implied that having a child should make him any less subject to being dumped--because I don't believe that way. Perhaps that part of your post wasn't directed at me, but since you quoted my post, it certainly appears so.

My point was that MANY viewers appreciated that he appears to be a great dad, and that trait just made Jason all the more endearing to them.

And I disagree with the part of your post in which you state that this story is repeated with every season of the show. Yes and no. Yes, there's always an F2 who gets his/her heart broken. This season, however, was different. The edits were not the same. In all previous seasons, we've seen the stories of both F1 and F2. Not so much this time. One got much more air time than the other. Sorry, that's not exactly the same.

Oh, and one other thing...I've NEVER bragged on DeAnna. I've NEVER posted that she was kind, beloved, or a shining beacon. Why? Because I've never thought that, even in the Brad season--I thought she was abrasive, brash, stubborn, strong-willed, and demanding. I've never posted that before because I know many FORTers do like her, so what purpose would it serve? That doesn't mean I don't wish her well.

This is "ridiculous."

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[julianna]

Originally Posted by TVJunkie1963

De is probably not the first bachelor/ette or contestant who's been interested in a Hollywood connection...but how many of them have actually accomplished it? Not many. The Bachelor/ette does not an actor make.

De should also realize that any successful Hollywood connection is only as successful as the fans make it. Few fans = Little Success. Little Success = Hello Bartending and Real Estate.

ROFLMAO!!!

Have there been ANY Bachelor/ette people that have gone on to anything?

That first guy, I called him rubber face, got a bit part on a sitcom and didn't he act as spokesman for Match.com or something?

And Bob married a soap opera lady.

Am I missing anyone?

[StanleyCupCanes]

Originally Posted by gurlbrit

casualfan ITA. Hopelessromantic, said something like "rose colored glasses" clouded her view too. Those who are ticked at what appears to be transpiring are those who fell in love with a single dad and his 3 year old son. I can't say I blame them, Fleiss edited him to be a lovable man with a cute kid. One thing I am pondering here is whether this has not been a deliberate attempt by Fleiss to fool the sleuthers.

I am terrible cynic most of the time. My husband hates that part of me. Last night we were walking across football fields (at our local school) to watch fireworks put on by our township, he commented at home green the grass was (the school has been out almost a month), my immediate response was yep we pay for them!!!

So my cynical side says that Fleiss knowing how good the sleuthers are on this site decided to pull one over on them. He showed them a "love story" between Jason and Deanna, maybe even encouraged said love story. It could be there were two love stories running concurrently, but he chose to only air one of them.

Now we have Jason fans up in arms because their beloved single dad who has been edited, in their opinion, to be F1, has in fact turned out to be F2, unfortunately, due to some reliable sources that Cape, Jammie and 2Observe know.

This is just my opinion folks, and probably could be shot full of holes, but I wouldn't put in past Fleiss in a million years.

Admitted Jason fan here and I think this sums our feelings quite nicely. I would add that I think Fleiss edited Jason so well that he stole the show from DeAnna. Thus, it kinda makes sense why we are so up in arms. He became the hero/Prince Charming main character - that we are rooting for to have a fairytale ending - much more so than DeAnna. No offense, but Jesse was a member of the supporting cast in this story.

[sfhoneybear]

Originally Posted by StanleyCupCanes

Admitted Jason fan here and I think this sums our feelings quite nicely. I would add that I think Fleiss edited Jason so well that he stole the show from DeAnna. Thus, it kinda makes sense why we are so up in arms. He became the hero/Prince Charming main character - that we are rooting for to have a fairytale ending - much more so than DeAnna. No offense, but Jesse was a member of the supporting cast in this story.

perfectly stated. jason did steal the show, ITA.

[azalea]

Originally Posted by chaslom4

after being on here so much since cape posted, i have myself convinced that I am ready for the show on Monday. Now what will happen is that the minute they show Jason, I am going to start bawling like a baby because I know what's coming. That will seem like the longest hour and a half till that RC. Geez, I just want Dee to do it and get it over with so I can go on to the AFRC and see her try to explain to Jason why she picked Jesse! I know Jason will be nothing but gracious and a class act, but my heart will still hurt for him.

I hope someone puts this up on youtube. I really do want to hear her face him and try to explain, but I can't and won't watch the debacle Monday night. Knowing is bad enough - living through it with him would near kill me. Thanks again Cape!

[ducky2]

Did anyone ever consider that maybe the reason for Jason's edit was in fact because of Ty? I know if I had a child involved, I would insist that my character be shown only in the best light. Maybe he had that added in his contract, to protect his reputation, and protect his son. (Or he's being set up to be a possible Bachelor.)

[nitagirl614]

Originally Posted by azalea

I hope someone puts this up on youtube. I really do want to hear her face him and try to explain, but I can't and won't watch the debacle Monday night. Knowing is bad enough - living through it with him would near kill me. Thanks again Cape!

Gawd, it's gonna be awful

[addison h.]

Originally Posted by julianna

ROFLMAO!!!

Have there been ANY Bachelor/ette people that have gone on to anything?

That first guy, I called him rubber face, got a bit part on a sitcom and didn't he act as spokesman for Match.com or something?

And Bob married a soap opera lady.

Am I missing anyone?

all true - and you know what I was thinking. if she did stay in real estate - and everyone still loved her she'd be a huge success! It's like being a big fish in a small pond. She should use her notoriety to help her be better at what she's already doing - I think it could only be a huge career boost for her.

[Capegal]

Originally Posted by ducky2

Did anyone ever consider that maybe the reason for Jason's edit was in fact because of Ty? I know if I had a child involved, I would insist that my character be shown only in the best light. Maybe he had that added in his contract, to protect his reputation, and protect his son. (Or he's being set up to be a possible Bachelor.)

I think that Jason has had a wonderful edit - and I have not doubt that that was part of his contract - because of his son - and possibly seeing it - now or sometime in the future - it certainly would protect his reputation - and his son as well.

I doubt that he would do the Bachelor/Fleiss show again - it would take him away from his son for an even longer time...............

[StanleyCupCanes]

Originally Posted by ducky2

Did anyone ever consider that maybe the reason for Jason's edit was in fact because of Ty? I know if I had a child involved, I would insist that my character be shown only in the best light. Maybe he had that added in his contract, to protect his reputation, and protect his son. (Or he's being set up to be a possible Bachelor.)

All of the guys that have exited the show stated that Jason is a genuine person and a great person - that to quote Jeremy "love the guy to death". I believe DeAnna calls him a beautiful person in her interviews. So, I don't think there was a lot of negativity to work with in that regard. I think the most they did was show some of his insecurities re: Graham and his vulnerablity of getting hurt again. Both of which endeared him even more to me.