The Aftermath

[sueb1961]

Originally Posted by nennie

I don't think that..she knew exactly what she was getting into. To me De was the same on this show as she was on B11. If Jesse is the last man standing and she is in love great...if not and this is a publicity stunt it won't be long till its over. I learned a few seasons back to not get invested in a favorite because the only person it will bother is me...

I agree nennieI see the same girl from B11. She was just as demanding and self centered back then. I did not she the sweet kind girl others did. Just the opposite actually. I never felt love was her only intention of doing the show either (nothing wrong with that if she truly did want to find love). She said herself in the interview from her fort fans after B11 that she wanted to be a host for E or a MTV VJ. She also said in the same interview or Q and A that her dream place to live was in LA. So no surprise there either if she does move there.

[Google]

 

[StanleyCupCanes]

Originally Posted by TVJunkie1963

De is probably not the first bachelor/ette or contestant who's been interested in a Hollywood connection...but how many of them have actually accomplished it? Not many. The Bachelor/ette does not an actor make.

De should also realize that any successful Hollywood connection is only as successful as the fans make it. Few fans = Little Success. Little Success = Hello Bartending and Real Estate.

LOL..good one. I have to say if she's as media minded as we seem to think, how could she not see what's coming on Monday? Fair or not, she's going to be seen as the heartbreaker of the sweet dad who took a second chance at love. If she had any doubts about him, she should have sent him home before Jeremy so we don't see him on bended knee ready to propose only to get crushed.

[girlsmom]

Originally Posted by grneyedgirl

But if she would have cut him sooner because of TY, people would have harped on her because she didn't give him a fair chance because he has a child. I think she was in a lose/lose situation.

And DeAnna didn't show Ty over and over again, that was Fleiss that did that.

YES grneyedgirl People were appalled and furious at the very idea that Jason having a child would make any difference in her thought process, now they're ready to crucify her for doing just that. She treated him like any other guy. Why couldn't she have fallen for Jason, but just not enough to commit him? How could she predict that she would ultimately not decide to choose him? Should she have not kept him if she wasn't SURE that he would f1? That would have outraged people. I'm not one to defend D, but just what was she supposed to do? Jason could have been CLOSE, but not quite there. It's Jason's fault for being away from his son, not Dee's. Now, if she purposely led him on, knowing he was not her f1, but was good press for the show, that's an entirely different thing. People say they saw her fall in love with Jason, so I would assume that's why she kept him, because she felt that he COULD be the one. In the end he wasn't. How is that her fault?.


Do you think that Jason had a particular guarantee that because he left his son for six weeks that he was guaranteed a good result? HE gambled and it appears he lost that gamble. I don't think he'll have the slightest problem getting a date though.

[onlyme]

Originally Posted by sueb1961

I agree nennieI see the same girl from B11. She was just as demanding and self centered back then. I did not she the sweet kind girl others did. Just the opposite actually. I never felt love was her only intention of doing the show either (nothing wrong with that if she truly did want to find love). She said herself in the interview from her fort fans after B11 that she wanted to be a host for E or a MTV VJ. She also said in the same interview or Q and A that her dream place to live was in LA. So no surprise there either if she does move there.

didn't Ellen have a lot to do with her being the Bachelorette?

[onlyme]

Originally Posted by julianna

The twit and the brit...rofl!

My menu listing on the DVR says that Shayne and Matt will definitely make an appearance on AFR.

However, yesterday's NY Daily News says they just broke up: (I can't post the url because I'm too new)

"The latest "Bachelor" couple, Matt Grant and Shayne Lamas, have split, according to In Touch. Wow. I never saw this coming. He's from London; she once asked if there were palm trees there. He works in business development; she works the cover of "Girls Gone Wild" magazine. It seemed so perfect."

Well maybe once they did the ATFR taping they weren't obligated to Fleiss anymore and ,voila, they broke up.

[sfhoneybear]

Originally Posted by StanleyCupCanes

LOL..good one. I have to say if she's as media minded as we seem to think, how could she not see what's coming on Monday? Fair or not, she's going to be seen as the heartbreaker of the sweet dad who took a second chance at love. If she had any doubts about him, she should have sent him home before Jeremy so we don't see him on bended knee ready to propose only to get crushed.

She won't see it because she can't ever find fault in herself. As someone else stated, she does think quite highly of herself and is never wrong.

I didn't care much for DeAnna on Brad's season, but I really started to appreciate her straight-shooting this season. I was really liking her until she (or the edit) started to show us another side. I think when everything is peachy, about her, she's in the driver's seat, and she's getting her way then she's happy and sweet. When the situation is difficult for her she loses her composure, compassion, temper, and filter (if she has one) though she wouldn't be able to see this in herself. I know I'm being harsh. But this is JMO that has evolved this season.

[StanleyCupCanes]

[quote=girlsmom;3106451;] YES grneyedgirl People were appalled and furious at the very idea that Jason having a child would make any difference in her thought process, now they're ready to crucify her for doing just that. She treated him like any other guy. Why couldn't she have fallen for Jason, but just not enough to commit him? How could she predict that she would ultimately not decide to choose him? Should she have not kept him if she wasn't SURE that he would f1? That would have outraged people. I'm not one to defend D, but just what was she supposed to do? Jason could have been CLOSE, but not quite there. It's Jason's fault for being away from his son, not Dee's. Now, if she purposely led him on, knowing he was not her f1, but was good press for the show, that's an entirely different thing. People say they saw her fall in love with Jason, so I would assume that's why she kept him, because she felt that he COULD be the one. In the end he wasn't. How is that her fault?.[/QUOTE]

If she has to be #1 which is what she herself says she loves (see her conf call regarding her description of why loves Jesse) he puts me first then she had to know that being the stepmom to a child wasn't going to work for her. Ergo, she should have sent Jason home sooner than later.

I won't comment further on how selfish I think that sounds and is totally contradictory with her statements of wanting "3 little people".

[gurlbrit]

Originally Posted by casualfan

I'm not really sure about the whole girlfriend scenario, but in recent days posters have come forward with information stating that the relationship between Jesse and the president of Zero Gloves, was not how it was presented by the one party that did the talking -- the "girlfriend".

I'm really trying to understand how impartial posters can be so upset? I know there are a certain amount of "fans" on this board, but also many that claim to be impartial. Being impartial lends to the assumption that it doesn't make too much difference who DeAnna picks. The shift in the impartial posters from liking DeAnna and just wanting to put the sluething puzzle together to what we are seeing today is extremely puzzling and I must say a bit upsetting.

The fact is many were fooled or "Fleissed". The edit was there, the screencaps were there, the storyline was there, the body language was there, but we were all too busy looking at a very sweet storyline between the star of the show and America's favorite single dad.

casualfan ITA. Hopelessromantic, said something like "rose colored glasses" clouded her view too. Those who are ticked at what appears to be transpiring are those who fell in love with a single dad and his 3 year old son. I can't say I blame them, Fleiss edited him to be a lovable man with a cute kid. One thing I am pondering here is whether this has not been a deliberate attempt by Fleiss to fool the sleuthers.

I am terrible cynic most of the time. My husband hates that part of me. Last night we were walking across football fields (at our local school) to watch fireworks put on by our township, he commented at home green the grass was (the school has been out almost a month), my immediate response was yep we pay for them!!!

So my cynical side says that Fleiss knowing how good the sleuthers are on this site decided to pull one over on them. He showed them a "love story" between Jason and Deanna, maybe even encouraged said love story. It could be there were two love stories running concurrently, but he chose to only air one of them.

Now we have Jason fans up in arms because their beloved single dad who has been edited, in their opinion, to be F1, has in fact turned out to be F2, unfortunately, due to some reliable sources that Cape, Jammie and 2Observe know.

This is just my opinion folks, and probably could be shot full of holes, but I wouldn't put in past Fleiss in a million years.

[julianna]

Originally Posted by soccermama

That could be true that DeAnna did not know that Jesse was the one until her FD w/him, but if that was the case, then I personally feel that getting engaged just a week later was a little premature.

Boy, I agree with that!

I realize it's darned easy to sit here and judge, and until you've been on that show in that spot (and apparently under the thumb of Fleiss) you can't really know what it's like.

But...I just can't imagine being "in love" enough with someone that you'd get engaged, while being in love with someone else in the same way. I also can't imagine bringing Jesse along because he's fun and everything, and then the night before, voila! Oh, surprise, I'm big time in love with him and have to marry him now.

Here's what I think in my head:

She had the hots for Graham, but didn't feel it back enough to take the chance. (And he did say in that interview that given more time, he would NOT have fallen in love with her...could be sour grapes, or not.) So she let him go.

Jeremy, she genuinely liked and wanted to fall for, because he was Mr. Perfect. But that spark just wasn't there for her. (How many times I've had a Mr. Perfect and *wanted* to fall for him, but it just wouldn't happen!)

So rather than take him to final two and hurt him even more, she let him go at 3.

Jesse isn't the one and he knows it, and as part of some deal, he's playing along. He's going to play the role of "so in love, totally crushed, boo hoo in the limo, by the way, buy my gear, as he cries into his gloves."

Jason is the one, and once she let go of Graham, she went full throttle into Jason. She brought Jesse to the final because somehow he knows he's not it, and he's okay with it. Maybe there was an official deal worked out behind the scenes, where she said "Look, you're fun and all, but you're not the one. Come along for the ride and play the fall guy so I don't really have to break a heart at the final rose."

Or...she genuinely had a good time with Jesse, but found out all of that stuff (the girlfriend, deal for the products - is all that true or not?) and then either decided to play with him as payback or TPTB said "Okay, you're a dick, but play along and in the end you can wear your gloves."

Bottom line Jason is the one, she got rid of Jeremy before so he wouldn't be as crushed as he would if he'd gone to F2. Jesse is a pawn, just for show, and he's going to act. They needed some drama, there wasn't much so they had to invent it.

And all of this inside sources, pissed off people from the final show taping, remarks from booted guys....all misinformation to create drama that isn't there. If anyone was getting bored in the last couple of weeks and reading here, they aren't bored now. So if it's all a setup, it's a success for Fleiss.

That's what my head says.

My heart says, gut feeling, Jesse. The editing usually points to one person and then that person gets kicked in the gut so you have kind of a surprise ending.

I'm literally counting the days until Monday.

[Capegal]

OOO boy - with the past 24 hours and who is F1 per the rumor mill and the scheduling of a show and then canceling it - and all the crazy rumors - and and and - oooo and the break up rumors for S&M - Fleiss probably needs some very strong - can't wait to see the damage control now ROFL ROFL ROFL