The Aftermath

[beachgirl4]

Originally Posted by onlyme

Maybe Jason wasn't ready for marriage but more of a 'let's take it slow.' He might have fell in love with her, but that doesn't mean he wanted to run out right away and get married. Maybe Deanna and Fleiss wanted a marriage out of this show (well we know they did, they have a date set) and nothing less.

Deanna at the last minute might have changed her mind and went with Jesse. BUT I will say again TPTB knew the ending, and they didn't give us an edit that matches it.


ETA wait a minute just thought of something. jason did ask Deanna's dad for her hand in marriage so maybe Jason was ready to get married.

I wondered about Jesse telling Deanna that she better be ready for a proposal if she picks him - I think Deanna wanted to make sure she would get one at the end of this. Otherwise, I think she would've kept Graham around. I also wonder if Deanna knew Jason asked her dad's permission - maybe we'll at least find that out Monday.

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[jotiff1]

Just one more observation.........Look at how DeAnna is dressed during the previews of the last part of their FD. She is dressed in a spaghetti strap dress with Jessie and a long sleeved shirt with Jason

[Shannonm93]

Originally Posted by jotiff1

Just one more observation.........Look at how DeAnna is dressed during the previews of the last part of their FD. She is dressed in a spaghetti strap dress with Jessie and a long sleeved shirt with Jason

You mean the LCD. At the FD, she was dressed in a long sleeved shirt with Jesse and a halter type dress with Jason, so it really all balances out.

[Lisabear]

Originally Posted by Shannonm93

Heck Jason could sit there and read the yellow pages and I'd watch ... I'd watch anything with that man! But I'd really watch a wedding with him as the groom.

ITA. I'd watch his wedding as well...or I'd watch him become the next bachelor. That way we'd see even more of him!!

[tawneej]

Forgot to add in post #524:

At dinner during the FD, Jesse says, "When I asked you today about the living situation..." then they discuss Breckenridge, moving around, etc. This clearly shows another serious conversation we didn't get to see. But it's at least referenced, so we know this isn't the first time they talked about it.

[longhornalum]

Originally Posted by idoljunkie

I'm saddened to hear that Jason is going to be heartbroken on Monday night. But, relieved that he will not have to deal with princess DeAnna. I think it's best for her to end up with Jesse. She can chase the fame she clearly longs for, but likely won't get, and Jesse can continue getting endorsements. Hopefully they will last a while as I do think they have feelings for each other. But, Jason deserves better than DeAnna and I'm glad that he now will be able to find someone who isn't as into herself and is capable of showing real love to others. I hope she enjoys her life in LA and her new Maserati because her fame is going to be quite shortlived. Good luck to DeAnna, she is definitely going to need it.

I think Jesse is spunky, different, and fun. But, not ready for full on commitment. He will also see the truth about DeAnna in time. I wish him luck too, though I don't think he will need it, he seems to have a good head on his shoulders and will see the truth in time.

I used to like DeAnna and felt bad for her when Brad broke her heart (though I was happy that Brad chose neither and stayed true to himself). But, I don't like what DeAnna truly is. We didn't get to see as much of her true self during Brad's season. But it sure came out when she was in the driver's seat. I lost total respect for her throughout the course of the show. She needs to take a long hard look in the mirror because she is not as great as she thinks she is.

to FORT. I would like to second that welcome you receive earlier. We saw enough of Deanna's temper and arrogance during Brad's season, that I am not surprised at what has been shown during her own season. You have typed my thoughts very well indeed. She had such an excellent selection of bachelors to choose from that I hated seeing them emasculated, by both Deanna and Fleiss (curtainless shower). I was glad to see Aggieland-raised Brad not succumb to it. I'm actually not unhappy about the Jesse news. I believe he has the cojones to deal with her.

[KaraT]

Originally Posted by TVJunkie1963

Maybe this will help explain it.

We've watched all season, and MANY of us took a liking to the single dad with a precocious little boy and from all appearances, a loving, warm, supportive family. From what we saw in the edits, Dad seems to be a genuinely nice guy. The majority of us don't know him, and we weren't there, so we don't know what he's like on a day-to-day basis.

But he's a handsome , likeable, seemingly-sincere guy and a great father. Many of us women took to him because he is a great father and adores his son, and we admired and respected that because it doesn't always work that way.

We've been allowed to think a fairy tale was developing.

Then....we find out that basically it's not going to work out that way for "our" guy, and the "nice guy", who appears to possess almost every trait De claims to seek, will be painfully dumped on Monday night.

No, this doesn't affect any of us on a personal level.

But I strongly believe that those of us who are bothered, disappointed, and maybe angry over the ending are reacting out of sensitivity and compassion. Many of us (who are also nice people) have been dumped at some point in our lives by someone who did not appreciate the unique qualities and strengths we could bring to a relationship.

We know how it feels to have our hearts broken and are simply sympathizing and relating to what Jason may be feeling. So it would not be unusual for many of us to perhaps take the ending more personally than others because what Jason is going through hits close to home, and it makes us sad to see him hurt. In his case, it's not even private - he has millions watching.

Is that okay? Yep. You're entitled to your feelings. I'm entitled to mine.

Just my 2 cents.

Of course you're entitled to your feelings.

But there seems to be a lack of recognition that this story is repeated during every single season of The Bachelor/ette. As wonderful as Jason is (and I do believe he is) he isn't unique in being misled and then publicly dumped on national television on this show. That is the cruel nature of the show. The only thing that makes Jason different is that he happened to have an adorable son that the fans fell in love with as well.

I mean no disrespect toward Jason, because I like him, but honestly why is it more awful to mislead him and break his heart just because he is a single father? For those who have had their hearts broken at least once in their lives (which I feel pretty confident is all of us here), rejection is rejection, heartbreak is heartbreak, and pain is pain...regardless of your situation in life.

I feel for Jason, just as I felt for Jeremy and all the other contestants who have had to face the same rejection on this show. But Jason signed up for this show the same as the other men did, took his chances the same as them, and was aware of this own personal family situation when he agreed to take those risks.

When DeAnna let previous contestants go, most posters bemoaned the contestant's hurt and rejection, but assured each other in numerous posts here on this forum that DeAnna had not and would not lead any of these men on. According to many posts, DeAnna was "real" and "blunt" and "far more kind" than any other previous TB and she was beloved for it...it was as if her virtues were like a shining beacon of Bachelor/ette-dom to which all previous and subsequent TB's could only aspire. And that was true, as long as she was choosing the board favorite. Same thing happened to Matt last season, and other TB's in previous seasons.

Once it becomes known that TB may NOT be choosing the board favorite, the giddy "we're seeing a real love story" postings stop, the rose colored glasses come off, the tide of sentiment turns against him/her, and suddenly people claim to see TB for "who they really are" and the vilification begins.

The clues to who DeAnna "really is" were there all along, most just chose to ignore them. And had she chosen Jason instead of Jesse, she would still be that same person. My opinion of DeAnna has not changed because she did not choose my personal favorite...in fact, I was thankful she did not, as much as it hurt to see his pain. But if DeAnna and Jesse are happy with each other, then great. It was her choice, and everyone deserves to be happy. My opinion as to whether it will last is another story.

Sorry for the long post. And, as always, JMO.

[soccermama]

Originally Posted by sunnymicki

I don't think DeAnna was leading Jason on

People are mad that she would take Jason this far if she wasn't going to keep him. But how do you know she didn't think she was going to? She gave him the best fantasy suite, which is usually an indication of who the favorite is. She hadn't been on Jesse's FD yet, so it seems apparent to me that she was keeping Jason because she felt there was a strong chance he would be F1. And then Jesse's FD went really well, and things started to change. But that doesn't mean for sure that she knew she was going to pick Jesse. So the idea that she should have booted Jason earlier is a little silly to me.

That could be true that DeAnna did not know that Jesse was the one until her FD w/him, but if that was the case, then I personally feel that getting engaged just a week later was a little premature.

I do, however, feel that DeAnna led Jason on. Yes, Jason made the decision to go on a reality TV even though he had a child. But, he also made the decision to stay because he thought he had a connection w/DeAnna. It's not like he met her the first night and didn't like her, but stayed until the bitter end for the exposure...

In almost every season of this show, the bachelor or bachelorette looks conflicted up until the hour before the FRC and then all of the sudden has a moment of clarity and knows who they are going to choose. After the show we almost always hear that they knew way in the beginning who they were going to choose. I am sure that DeAnna is no different. In that case, she had to know at least before the HT dates that she would not choose Jason as her F1. Why even bring Jason on a HT down and drag his son into this show then? Yes, Jason initially went on the show, something that many other parents of young children have done on countless other reality shows over the years, but DeAnna also made the conscious decision to keep him around all the way until the F2 when she knew that she would not pick him. To me that seems like she did lead him on.

I really did like DeAnna during Brad's season, and after as well. I am just having trouble reconciling the DeAnna that I have seen on the screen this season with the DeAnna that I thought I knew.

[TVJunkie1963]

De is probably not the first bachelor/ette or contestant who's been interested in a Hollywood connection...but how many of them have actually accomplished it? Not many. The Bachelor/ette does not an actor make.

De should also realize that any successful Hollywood connection is only as successful as the fans make it. Few fans = Little Success. Little Success = Hello Bartending and Real Estate.

[julianna]

Originally Posted by hopelessroman

Anyone know if there is any truth to the twit and the brit being on the AFR show? Was that just talk? It would be another fake appearance do doubt!

The twit and the brit...rofl!

My menu listing on the DVR says that Shayne and Matt will definitely make an appearance on AFR.

However, yesterday's NY Daily News says they just broke up: (I can't post the url because I'm too new)

"The latest "Bachelor" couple, Matt Grant and Shayne Lamas, have split, according to In Touch. Wow. I never saw this coming. He's from London; she once asked if there were palm trees there. He works in business development; she works the cover of "Girls Gone Wild" magazine. It seemed so perfect."