The Aftermath - Page 51

Vincenza · 07-05-2008, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Shannonm93

Maybe next go around you'll actually like the F1 best!

Isn't it funny how we viewers have favorites? With Trista I thought she liked Ryan best and I wanted Charlie for me

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As for predictions, before I started with spoilers several seasons ago, I was very sure of Mere-Ian, Byron-Mary, Andrew-Jen, and Charlie-Sarah, but the others I wasn't so sure -- maybe it wasn't a coincidence that I wasn't sure about the others and they didn't last more than a couple months

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onlyme · 07-05-2008, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sunnymicki

Ok, I don't think I can post the link, but her post can be found in the "thoughts and comments #3" thread - it is post #2997. Here is the text of what she posted:

sunnymickithank you so much for bringing that quote over here. I don't have the time or patience right now to 'dig' for anything. I appreciate it. The internet makes it so hard to figure out what to believe these days and the way our 'characters' are presented on this show, it makes it even harder to tell truth from fiction sometimes.

beachgirl4 · 07-05-2008, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Shannonm93

Maybe next go around you'll actually like the F1 best!

I have in several seasons, but after the last 3 seasons I'm just not sure there will be a next go around for me. If there is, it will most likely be because of FORT - that, or there's really nothing else on TV and I don't have a good romance novel handy.

beachgirl4 · 07-05-2008, 03:04 PM

, idoljunkie! Great first post!

tawneej · 07-05-2008, 03:05 PM

Let me preface this by saying that while I was typing the following, the thread jumped four pages ahead. I apologize in advance if I'm being redundant at all.

I know I'm in the minority, but I totally see a Jesse/De love story in the edit. It built slower, and IMO, more like a real life love story. Sure, she went into this looking for the fairy tale, and he didn't go into it expecting to find love at all, but maybe they ended up with a little more reality than we usually see in a reality TV show. Unfortunately, TPTB did leave some of it out, but the basis of it is there.

From the beginning, she was a bit intrigued and didn't want to dismiss him. Maybe she even kept him around to show us all how open minded she is. But then he stayed in the house and she made him pancakes (see interview below). You've seen how he reacts to her (actually the producers) doing wonderful things for their dates. He is overjoyed, appreciative, and expressive. But this was real, not producer-driven. Unfortunately, we didn't see it. But De did.

And she continues to see how nice, sweet, funny, caring he is, as he's always by her side. She says in MTA, "In every shot, What two people do you always see sitting next to me? Jeremy and Jesse. Always." And we wonder why the other guys (reportedly) didn't like Jesse? I think it's clear, and it's the same reason they didn't like Jeremy.

Look back at their poolside chat, where he's holding hands with her under the table. This is where we see him really start to fall. And he wants to kiss her, but he doesn't want it to be in front of all the other guys, so he waits 'til the time is right and they're alone. And this made DeAnna want him more, because our girl wants what she can't have.

On the HTD, she finally sees him in his element, and it's downright sexy and exciting to her. The man's got skills. He may not have a three-year-old, but she definitely saw what a great dad he could be when he was teaching her to snowboard. No doubt they talked about how he makes a living coaching kids, his non-profit foundation, and how his competitive snowboarding years are nearly behind him. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if this is where they talked about his endorsement/promotion deals and where she saw the shrewd businessman in him. De's got the media bug herself, and she can see how alike they are.

I'd kick someone in the n#$^% five times to see what we missed on this date, because methinks it was GOOD. Look at the picture in the book Jesse gives her on the LCD. He's in his swim trunks and she's wearing a white bikini under her snowboarding "onezee." Looks like a romantic dip in the hottub surrounded by snowy mountains to me. Wow! I hope they'll show that on Monday. Also in the book is the "late night talks over fondue" comment. Again, more that we didn't get to see.

And of course, during the HTD he kisses her in the carriage. If you watch it again, he says something to her between kisses, while they're still lil-to-lip. <sigh> I wonder why we didn't get to hear it? Too obvious, maybe?

Now look back at her FD with Jesse. Their touching is very intimate, very comfortable, very loving. When they're sitting by the fire, he has his arms around her and he's stroking the back of her thigh. I don't know about y'all, but just because I kiss a guy, doesn't mean I'm gonna let him touch me like that. I also remember a shot from either FD or LCD preview, where they're in the water, and she's standing behind him, with her arms around him. Again, big sigh! There's more there too, in the water, on the sand. Watch it with an open mind, maybe even without the voiceovers. It's there, and I think this is why she chooses another secluded beach date for their LCD. This is THEM, TOGETHER.

If you're still reading, I also submit for your review the following commentary from Ron, Twilley, and De herself. Enjoy!

Ron's post on June 10, after viewing De and Jesse's one-on-one Natasha Beddingfield date:
I really liked her edit though... and thought she was very personable on her date with Jesse, she sort of changed into this person that was inspiring to watch. That relationship is beginning to intrigue me.

Twilley, during his June 19 conference call:
Twilley added Jesse is the only remaining suitor he really sees as having a chance at a working relationship with Pappas.

"I know that might seem strange, but I just feel like they have a really unusual connection," he told Reality TV World. "It's going to be unexpected and I think it will happen during the fantasy dates. I think the more she'll get to know him the more she'll like him. Of the four left, I think they're the best fit."

The reason why Twilley singling out Jesse seems "strange" is because the 25-year-old professional snowboarder from Breckenridge, CO seems to lack a romantic connection with Pappas, at least to home viewers.

"I know what Jesse's whole plan for his first kiss is. I don't want to go into that, but I just think that there's a lot of stuff you just see behind the edit. Jesse's the guy that she always kind of went over and was talking to anytime she had a chance," Twilley told reporters during the call. "I just see a lot of sparks between them, that's all."

Deanna on July 2 conference call:
You know especially with the guys living in the house, there's a lot of conversations that you didn't see. Actually, the very first week of filming, when the first three guys lived in the house, it was Jeremy, Richard, and Jesse. It was actually Jesse's birthday, and we threw him a little surprise birthday party and decorated and I woke the guys up that morning and made them pancakes for Jesse's birthday. But it didn't make television, so nobody got to see it, but it was actually really special.

TEAM CSINCSAK!!

ETA: See post #536 for one more note that I forgot to include here.

TVJunkie1963 · 07-05-2008, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by thethreej's

I am beginning to wonder if keeping it well hidden wasn't a little bit of DeAnna's doing. She has always said she wants the audience and her family to be surprised. Well guess what, we are surprised that is for sure. If this is the case, it might have just backfired on her.

Maybe De hasn't learned yet that there are GOOD surprises and BAD surprises!!

onlyme · 07-05-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by beachgirl4

Normally, I wouldn't give any weight to a post like this, but I have to say the wording and the content actually seem to fit in alot of ways. The only thing that doesn't make sense is why Fleiss wouldn't want the fan favorite Jason to win, and would try to steer DeAnna to Jesse. My thought on that would be that Jason would not be as willing to do all of the press and promotion, and maybe they didn't think he'd be willing to go along with a televised wedding (possibly because of Ty). I still wouldn't take this post as gospel, but it sure does make you go hmmmm ....

Maybe Jason wasn't ready for marriage but more of a 'let's take it slow.' He might have fell in love with her, but that doesn't mean he wanted to run out right away and get married. Maybe Deanna and Fleiss wanted a marriage out of this show (well we know they did, they have a date set) and nothing less.

Deanna at the last minute might have changed her mind and went with Jesse. BUT I will say again TPTB knew the ending, and they didn't give us an edit that matches it.

ETA wait a minute just thought of something. jason did ask Deanna's dad for her hand in marriage so maybe Jason was ready to get married.

Shannonm93 · 07-05-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by beachgirl4

ITA - I know this is Bachelor blasphemy, but I didn't watch Trista and Ryan's wedding. If Jason has a wedding on TV - I would definitely watch! Heck, I would watch even if its with someone who writes to him as a result of his appearance on the bachelor. Hear that Fleiss?!?

Heck Jason could sit there and read the yellow pages and I'd watch ... I'd watch anything with that man! But I'd really watch a wedding with him as the groom.

atem · 07-05-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Shannonm93

Heck Jason could sit there and read the yellow pages and I'd watch ... I'd watch anything with that man! But I'd really watch a wedding with him as the groom.

: I'd watch just about anything with him too.

natashapierre · 07-05-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TVJunkie1963

Maybe De hasn't learned yet that there are GOOD surprises and BAD surprises!!

You mean she didn't learn that after Brad called her second-out-of-the-limo-but-I'm-dumping-you-anyway?

07-05-2008, 03:04 PM	#504
beachgirl4 vB Tetris Champion Join Date: May 2007 Location: FL Posts: 1,318	Re: The Aftermath , idoljunkie! Great first post!

07-05-2008, 03:05 PM	#505
tawneej TEAM CSINCSAK Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Eastern NC Posts: 93	Re: The Aftermath Let me preface this by saying that while I was typing the following, the thread jumped four pages ahead. I apologize in advance if I'm being redundant at all. I know I'm in the minority, but I totally see a Jesse/De love story in the edit. It built slower, and IMO, more like a real life love story. Sure, she went into this looking for the fairy tale, and he didn't go into it expecting to find love at all, but maybe they ended up with a little more reality than we usually see in a reality TV show. Unfortunately, TPTB did leave some of it out, but the basis of it is there. From the beginning, she was a bit intrigued and didn't want to dismiss him. Maybe she even kept him around to show us all how open minded she is. But then he stayed in the house and she made him pancakes (see interview below). You've seen how he reacts to her (actually the producers) doing wonderful things for their dates. He is overjoyed, appreciative, and expressive. But this was real, not producer-driven. Unfortunately, we didn't see it. But De did. And she continues to see how nice, sweet, funny, caring he is, as he's always by her side. She says in MTA, "In every shot, What two people do you always see sitting next to me? Jeremy and Jesse. Always." And we wonder why the other guys (reportedly) didn't like Jesse? I think it's clear, and it's the same reason they didn't like Jeremy. Look back at their poolside chat, where he's holding hands with her under the table. This is where we see him really start to fall. And he wants to kiss her, but he doesn't want it to be in front of all the other guys, so he waits 'til the time is right and they're alone. And this made DeAnna want him more, because our girl wants what she can't have. On the HTD, she finally sees him in his element, and it's downright sexy and exciting to her. The man's got skills. He may not have a three-year-old, but she definitely saw what a great dad he could be when he was teaching her to snowboard. No doubt they talked about how he makes a living coaching kids, his non-profit foundation, and how his competitive snowboarding years are nearly behind him. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if this is where they talked about his endorsement/promotion deals and where she saw the shrewd businessman in him. De's got the media bug herself, and she can see how alike they are. I'd kick someone in the n#$^% five times to see what we missed on this date, because methinks it was GOOD. Look at the picture in the book Jesse gives her on the LCD. He's in his swim trunks and she's wearing a white bikini under her snowboarding "onezee." Looks like a romantic dip in the hottub surrounded by snowy mountains to me. Wow! I hope they'll show that on Monday. Also in the book is the "late night talks over fondue" comment. Again, more that we didn't get to see. And of course, during the HTD he kisses her in the carriage. If you watch it again, he says something to her between kisses, while they're still lil-to-lip. <sigh> I wonder why we didn't get to hear it? Too obvious, maybe? Now look back at her FD with Jesse. Their touching is very intimate, very comfortable, very loving. When they're sitting by the fire, he has his arms around her and he's stroking the back of her thigh. I don't know about y'all, but just because I kiss a guy, doesn't mean I'm gonna let him touch me like that. I also remember a shot from either FD or LCD preview, where they're in the water, and she's standing behind him, with her arms around him. Again, big sigh! There's more there too, in the water, on the sand. Watch it with an open mind, maybe even without the voiceovers. It's there, and I think this is why she chooses another secluded beach date for their LCD. This is THEM, TOGETHER. If you're still reading, I also submit for your review the following commentary from Ron, Twilley, and De herself. Enjoy! Ron's post on June 10, after viewing De and Jesse's one-on-one Natasha Beddingfield date: I really liked her edit though... and thought she was very personable on her date with Jesse, she sort of changed into this person that was inspiring to watch. That relationship is beginning to intrigue me. Twilley, during his June 19 conference call: Twilley added Jesse is the only remaining suitor he really sees as having a chance at a working relationship with Pappas. "I know that might seem strange, but I just feel like they have a really unusual connection," he told Reality TV World. "It's going to be unexpected and I think it will happen during the fantasy dates. I think the more she'll get to know him the more she'll like him. Of the four left, I think they're the best fit." The reason why Twilley singling out Jesse seems "strange" is because the 25-year-old professional snowboarder from Breckenridge, CO seems to lack a romantic connection with Pappas, at least to home viewers. "I know what Jesse's whole plan for his first kiss is. I don't want to go into that, but I just think that there's a lot of stuff you just see behind the edit. Jesse's the guy that she always kind of went over and was talking to anytime she had a chance," Twilley told reporters during the call. "I just see a lot of sparks between them, that's all." Deanna on July 2 conference call: You know especially with the guys living in the house, there's a lot of conversations that you didn't see. Actually, the very first week of filming, when the first three guys lived in the house, it was Jeremy, Richard, and Jesse. It was actually Jesse's birthday, and we threw him a little surprise birthday party and decorated and I woke the guys up that morning and made them pancakes for Jesse's birthday. But it didn't make television, so nobody got to see it, but it was actually really special. TEAM CSINCSAK!! ETA: See post #536 for one more note that I forgot to include here. Last edited by tawneej; 07-05-2008 at 03:27 PM.