The Aftermath

[Rags317]

Vet,


THANK YOU for being the voice of reason and reality during this whole whirlwind. You've pointed out some very important things and done so with a knowledge that others don't neccessarily have. THANK YOU for putting an end to the madness!!

xo,

Rags

Originally Posted by Vet_Tech

Ok this is going to be the last thread and the last post for this FORT that I add before Monday's episode.

I posted this in other threads but it seem like some of you still don't understand. First I want to say this on what I know about filming...I don't know much, but what I know is that my SO works for ABC here in Chicago. He did many internships in LA for 2 yrs and worked there for 3 yrs. So he knows the ins and outs for TV Shows, Reality Programs (since he worked for one that was filmed here in Chicago where he fell in love with the city), and films. Since we've been dating for 2 yrs you come to realize to views things differently on TV and Films and being told how directors, producers, and crew members work. On this note:

It's all about the AFTERMATH. Yes, there is a love story that is being for told but it's funny how we have Cape whom has been told by sources whom are paid audiences for AFTR show are saying Jesse is F1 and before that we had crew sources saying Jason is F1. Which to my SO speaks volumes. Yes there was a paid audience/extras at the AFTR show which indeed had to sign a contract as well, but we are not sure what was in that contract and what was told to them before the taping since they are a paid audience their contracts or maybe even what they were told before hand was stated to tell everyone that Jesse is F1. But what my SO also finds interesting is that at the MTA there was a normal audience which also had to sign a contract and it seems like none of them still aren't able to discuss what was said at the taping due to a $5 million fine.

All I can say is go back and watch Dee's interviews before the 6/4 cut episode. All those interviews speak volumes!!! We have the DTA, which was filmed after she has chosen her F1. And to me it seems that was taped after her BBQ "monster scene" episode was aired. In the DTA, we have her discussing to CH how she has watched every episode with her family and how it was difficult for her and her family to watch that scene, since she was upset. Unless Fleiss had requested that she add that statement in there.
Even during the DTA we have CH ask her about Jason and that smile speaks volumes!!! That smile is made clear when the camera is on her side panned out, but she hides it once the camera is in front of her. CH had also asked her if she was happy with what has been shown so far, and I believe she says that yes, she's extremely happy.

Let's see what has been shown to that point regarding the final 2 bach. Jason has been shown making that love connection with her that fairy tale ending. Jesse has only been shown as receiving the FIR, the NB concert, and as the Devil's Advocate. Remember Jesse didn't even kiss her even though she wanted him to, that was told to us after the DTA 6/4 cut episode.

Earlier interviews before the DTA, we have the Jimmy Kimmel show, where we have Dee wearing the same bracelets that she wore on the FD with Jason. We have the Ellen show which was taped 2 weeks after the she had picked her F1 and Jason was even brought up by Ellen, and that as well speaks volumes...

The answer is there, the love story is being told, but it's funny how once we reached our 2 bach. in all the interviews that were done by Dee on July 2nd even her Conference Call adds doubt on whom she chose for F1 which is exactly what Fleiss and Dee want to leave it a surprise. The only thing that caught my attention on that conference call is that her fiance wants to shout it to the world that they are engaged, go back and out of the final 2 bach that are left who fits that characteristic. Who is the one that is always excited to see her and isn't afraid to show it in public?

Go back to every interview that she has done before and after the show aired and there is only 1 line that she makes besides "I am happy how the show ended" There has to be a twist to everything, every TV Show, and Film. Even after we see their love journey unfold, there is always that one character that leaves a doubt in our minds to make us think differently.

The AFTERMATH which was shown to us before the show aired and during the 1 1/2 month of the show during her interviews speak volumes!!!

We say that Jesse is more daring and adventures for Dee b/c he does an Xtreme Sport. I would deeply disagree. We have Jason whom has gone back pack hiking in Europe even when his mom questioned it. He loves sports, even his mom makes that comment during their HTD in Seattle. He has a wild side which we see in the Bahamas and he is glad that Dee got to see that and emphasizes that yes he has a conservative side when it comes to TY b/c he is extremely important to him but that is only a part of him. And even puts his love for Dee at the same level as TY.

All I say is go back at look at the AFTERMATH!!!!

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[VelvetBex]

I'd like to add the 'pissed off audience member' is a perfect excuse to divulge a lie.

Abc: hey you in audience (pulls aside), tell folk its Jesse, stir it a little

actor: what shall i say?

abc: say you were pissed so you can tell sources a lie, ill pay you extra

actor: ok

You get my drift....

[cupcakes]

Originally Posted by VelvetBex

I'd like to add the 'pissed off audience member' is a perfect excuse to divulge a lie.

Abc: hey you in audience (pulls aside), tell folk its Jesse, stir it a little

actor: what shall i say?

abc: say you were pissed so you can tell sources a lie, ill pay you extra

actor: ok

You get my drift....

Paid actors were not the only ones in the audience. Fans of the show were allowed in as well.

[addison h.]

Originally Posted by cupcakes

Paid actors were not the only ones in the audience. Fans of the show were allowed in as well.

so why bother with the actors?

[IEEE1394]

In an interview Deanna mentioned she and her chosen one have a lot of fans supporting them. Looking at the comments here and other boards, she certainly isn't talking about Jesse. LOL

I still say it's Jason. They went too far trying to throw us off with Deanna's new car and if I'm wrong, oh well. Fortunately, I don't care who she chooses, but I've invested too much to stop watching now.

[VelvetBex]

Originally Posted by cupcakes

Paid actors were not the only ones in the audience. Fans of the show were allowed in as well.

Regardless of a mixed audience, my post was focused on one possible dialogue for an actor member of the audience.

I have actor friends, they kill for extra pay

In fact if the audience was mixed it gives even more fuel for 'paid' actors within the group to stir the pot.


Im pretty neutral on the Jesse/Jason thing btw, no bias at all, just a voice of reason. Its still up in the air for me.

[Ketol]

Originally Posted by Shannonm93

He is and his name is Fleiss!

On another note, I'm watching "Poseidon" on HBO or something and guess who one of the executive producers is??? None other than Mike Fleiss!

Mike Fleiss:

ETA link I got the photo from: FilmStew.com • Eli Roth's Evil Excursions

[SewCrazy]

Originally Posted by pattycake92

So they are sending the beautiful couple on a honeymoon to a place that JASON mentioned in his song? WTF????

WTF is right. That is just wrong. Maybe De and Jesse can name their firstborn Tyler too.

[VelvetBex]

Mike Fleiss:
http://images.filmstew.com/Features/13103/jv_fleiss.jpg

With looks like that, he should be the next Bach!

[Shannonm93]

Originally Posted by IEEE1394

In an interview Deanna mentioned she and her chosen one have a lot of fans supporting them. Looking at the comments here and other boards, she certainly isn't talking about Jesse. LOL

I still say it's Jason. They went too far trying to throw us off with Deanna's new car and if I'm wrong, oh well. Fortunately, I don't care who she chooses, but I've invested too much to stop watching now.

See this is one reason why this doesn't make any sense to me. If she really thinks that her & Jesse have that many fans then I'm sorry, but she's just daydreaming or something. This would not be true of her & Jesse, but would absolutely be true of her & Jason.