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Old 07-04-2008, 04:09 PM   #161
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I had been hoping she would wind up with Jason because I think he is amazing. So now I hope she doesn't end up with Jason...for the same reason.
I came to the realization that I watched this season because of Jason. I loved him from the beginning, this board told me he'd be around (I came to check, because I wasn't going to watch if he wasn't). So yup, I was firmly on Jason's side, too.

My husband is "my" Jason - he is all those things to me that I think we saw Jason as for DeAnna. I snatched mine up because I knew what a good thing I had. So I imagine the right woman will do the same with Jason. And DeAnna will have fun driving her Mazerati.
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Old 07-04-2008, 04:11 PM   #162
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Thanks for the updates, Jammie!

After this season and the new levels of leakage and spoiling and inside information and posting directly from the contestants, I'm surprised that ABC hasn't tried to shut this board down for good. The best laid plans, and all of that.

Apparently, in order to keep anything a secret, he has to put every member of the audience under armed guard, until the show airs. He might try that next season, if there's a next season.

As for this outcome? I am VERY glad I know in advance. Just like I knew about Brad before I watched it. A small part of me hoped, beyond hope, that the information was wrong. I don't doubt it at all, this time. I really don't know if I can watch the finale. I can't even bring myself to watch the sneak peak of Jason's LCD. Can I watch for 2 hours, knowing that I'll stil think she should pick him and she picks Jesse? I really don't know.

I hope Deanna is very happy (I mean that). I may have to watch just to see if I can possibly see "it" with Jesse. I'm doubtful. I will be happily wrong if there's a wedding in May 09. May is a great month to get married.

As for Jason, who I find myself rooting for instead of Deanna - I hope Jason is healing but is hurting because watching it all unfold as the show airs keeps the wounds pretty fresh. He deserves every happiness in the world and I'm sure there are plenty of women in Seattle who are willing and waiting.

This season had so much promise, so much potential and it was bungled horribly from start to finish.

I think there will be plenty of women who will be willing to move to Seatlle for him!
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Old 07-04-2008, 04:14 PM   #163
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I have great respect for the information brought to us by people like Cape and Jammie. I just think that having a paid audience for AFTR speaks volumes: you are paying them to do something. Which is what? You're paying them to cast doubt so that we all become even more emotionally invested in the show, so much so that we start talking to all of our friends and co-workers about it.

This morning, on the Screencaps discussion thread, i posted what i believe is proof that it's Jason after all. Another poster added the pictures and some great edits to my post - it's about page 11 to 13 i think. Take a look and see if you still want to believe that it must be Jesse, based on sources.

And in the meantime, i welcome all the great posts from our insider friends - they make everything much more interesting. Although, i do have to get back to my life sometime soon!
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Old 07-04-2008, 04:14 PM   #164
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instead of showing us Jesse they show us Ty and Jason. Fleiss is a piece of crapola for doing this, he really is.
More evidence that he doesn't know how to edit the show that he has, he wants to make it into a mystery of some kind.

I don't want to be shocked or surprised. I want to have two to four plausible developing romances laid out for me. Okay, there was that with the other F4. But why hide F1 so much?

In a properly edited show, there shouldn't have been all these debates about Graham vs Jeremy vs Jason. The debates should have been about Graham vs Jeremy vs Jason vs Jesse. But while sure, you could see something developing there, the editing didn't support Jesse as a strong candidate, at least not strong enough to develop an ardent and passionate following like Graham, Jeremy, and Jason had.

Anyway, I am extremely grateful to Cape and others who clued us in. I come to the spoiler boards to avoid the tension of a huge surprise. I don't want to sit there with my jaw dropping. I want hints as to who to follow from the beginning, and I want to see storylines.

Yes, Jesse had a storyline. It wasn't big or bold enough for a F1, however, and that is really annoying to me as a viewer.
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And so she should Deanna needs to stop playing the victim and accept that responsibility. They were not all Fleiss actions .... she was in control of her words and her actions and who she kept and let go and how she treated the guys. The editors don't completely rewrite the story, the bend it to make it more dramatic, but Deanna has said she is shown as she is and she is satisfied with the edit.

I don't understand being angry at her choice, but I do understand being angry at her actions or words, the things she tells the guys, that is different. Or be confused that she could go from Graham to Jesse, but not choose Jason. But she has a reason for choosing Jesse and I am sure in the comng weeks we will learn more why.

Of course she's responsible for her own actions, I didn't mean to imply she wasn't......my point was more that she chooses Jesse and Fleiss decided to focus more on Graham, Jeremy and Jason than the person she actually chose.

As I stated above - I think she was really freaked out at the possibility of all that Jason is (Ty, Washington...etc) and picking Jesse was a good 'out'.....the 'out' Brad didn't have.

Jesse's reasons for doing the show were widely reported, and it's been said that Deanna was well aware of this fact - and I'm not saying they haven't fallen in love, but if there's a wedding I'll .........well,............mayb e I won't eat my desk......
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Old 07-04-2008, 04:15 PM   #166
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IA. If I was DeAnna or Jesse, and Jesse is her choice, I'd be furious at the way it all played on the show. How disappointing to have their love story turned into "What? She chose WHO?" commentary and shock.
She doesn't have anything to complain about -- we saw her love story with Graham, and then he left. After that, all bets were off on who she would choose. The game started over.

She chose Jesse, who probably thought he had been in the fairytale all along. If that's what he thought, HE may have a complaint that they didn't show their love story 'from the beginning' but SHE doesn't have room to gripe. She really only gave the show -- and Jesse -- two weeks for a fairytale to develop. (If it did.)
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Jason mentioned it in the rap he made up for DeAnna... something about going to Santorini.
Maybe that's where the Greecian branch of D's family is from and Jason knew that. Therefore it would really have nothing to do with Jason, just Dee. It would be beautiful place to visit.
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and THAT is the reason a lot of people are p!ssed off....

well, I said if she doesn't pick Jason I'd eat my desk, I better get a bigger knife.....


Anders will you please keep up your default pic until the end of the season?
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my point was more that she chooses Jesse and Fleiss decided to focus more on Graham, Jeremy and Jason than the person she actually chose.
Fleiss didn't have anything to focus on BUT Graham until Graham left!
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Anders will you please keep up your defaul pic until the end of the season?

Brian is definitely staying put - no worries.....
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