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Old 07-04-2008, 02:10 PM   #121
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Thanks for the updates, Jammie!

After this season and the new levels of leakage and spoiling and inside information and posting directly from the contestants, I'm surprised that ABC hasn't tried to shut this board down for good. The best laid plans, and all of that.

Apparently, in order to keep anything a secret, he has to put every member of the audience under armed guard, until the show airs. He might try that next season, if there's a next season.

As for this outcome? I am VERY glad I know in advance. Just like I knew about Brad before I watched it. A small part of me hoped, beyond hope, that the information was wrong. I don't doubt it at all, this time. I really don't know if I can watch the finale. I can't even bring myself to watch the sneak peak of Jason's LCD. Can I watch for 2 hours, knowing that I'll stil think she should pick him and she picks Jesse? I really don't know.

I hope Deanna is very happy (I mean that). I may have to watch just to see if I can possibly see "it" with Jesse. I'm doubtful. I will be happily wrong if there's a wedding in May 09. May is a great month to get married.

As for Jason, who I find myself rooting for instead of Deanna - I hope Jason is healing but is hurting because watching it all unfold as the show airs keeps the wounds pretty fresh. He deserves every happiness in the world and I'm sure there are plenty of women in Seattle who are willing and waiting.

This season had so much promise, so much potential and it was bungled horribly from start to finish.
Secret, I agree with every word of your post! This is exactly how I feel as well. After Cape's 2nd post yesterday, where she said she was even more sure than when she started the thread, I was certain it was true because she's been such an extremely reliable source. I am so glad I know now - I will watch Jason's portion, and decide if I continue watching. Jesse's a cutie - I don't really have anything against him (without knowing the truth behind the rumors), but I just didn't connect with DeAnna and Jesse as a couple. Jason, obviously, has won alot of hearts - I think he would've even without Ty, but then when you put the package together, its more than many of us can resist. This show has seriously become a rollercoaster ride (even before Amanda's Americana date) the last few seasons - I keep vowing not to choose a favorite, but I just don't think I'm wired that way. I actually liked most of the guys this season - but the 'Sleepless In Seattle' story with Jason, the shared heartache with Jeremy, and heck, even the tortured Graham 'I don't know if I can fall in love' storyline all worked on me. One thing I have to admit, last season I complained that we didn't see enough of the other women even if they weren't F1 - at least I can't make that complaint this season. I'd rather be excited with the ending, but DeAnna could only choose one (darn it! ), so I was going to be heartbroken for someone no matter what. I admit I've enjoyed these guys overall, so despite the ending, I guess I'd say I've still enjoyed it. Thanks to Cape and all those who've confirmed what she was brave enough to report, I am able to come to that conclusion before Monday night - I mean that sincerely, I really do appreciate it, ladies. As always, the FORT is the best!
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Old 07-04-2008, 02:15 PM   #122
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Jesse is more than snowboarding. He started a foundation, which offers poor children who want to learn to snowboard financial help. I have heard from more than one person that he has such a great spirit that when you are around him it is as though he fills you up with energy and life. He pushes himself to always do better. He IS a neat freak, which I love. He's funny, charming, determined, ambitious, fun and smart.

Jesse has the support of two parents that flat out love their boy who not only tried for years to have him but are still together and that goes a long way with stability. His parents named him Jesse because the name means 'gift from God'. His father seems to have such a tender, kind soul. I see a lot of him in Jesse, which will only show more as he gets older.

Perfect? Well, no. Can't say that I've met one of those kind of people. But he does have some really wonderful attributes.
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Jesse is more than snowboarding. He started a foundation, which helps poor children who want to learn to snowboard financial help. I have heard from more than one person that he has such a great spirit that when you are around him it is as though he fills you up with energy and life. He pushes himself to always do better. He IS a neat freak, which I love. He's funny, charming, determined, ambitious, fun and smart.

Jesse has the support of two parents that flat out love their boy who not only tried for years to have him but are still together and that goes a long way with stability. His parents named him Jesse because the name means 'gift from God'. His father seems to have such a tender, kind soul. I see a lot of him in Jesse, which will only show more as he gets older.

Perfect? Well, no. Can't say that I've met one of those kind of people. But he does have some really wonderful attributes.

Yeah, and they should have shown us this more instead of cramming Jason and Ty down our throats. It also doesn't negate the fact that he came on the show for publicity and that he is no where near ready for what Deanna supposedly wants. She was full of it anyway so.......
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Old 07-04-2008, 02:22 PM   #124
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Totally different thought here - I remember DeAnna saying early on something to the effect that TPTB had been really good to her (my impression) in the sense that they did things a little differently for her in order to make the process more effective. Perhaps they didn't show much of what was going on at the mansion at DeAnna's request - maybe she asked for the mansion set-up so that she could spend more time in smaller groups with the guys she thought she was really interested in, and requested that setting to be a little more private. I'm sure they'd reserve the right to film things there, and if there was anything significant, that they would show it, but maybe it didn't seem very TV-worthy to them. Total speculation on my part - TPTB have not proven to show much respect to privacy (poor Chelsea!), but maybe if it was part of signing DeAnna, they conceded to it.
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Old 07-04-2008, 02:22 PM   #125
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Me either atem.

I don't wanna see Jason's heart crushed. If I could feel happy for Jesse & Dee in contrast I would, but since I was never shown that love story, I can't.

I also wanna send a message to the idiot aka Fleiss. Show me a love story dammit, this is a reality tv show, not Punked.
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Old 07-04-2008, 02:29 PM   #126
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First, until Monday none of us know for sure. That being said, no matter who she chose I wish them happy.

Now that I've got that out of the way I have a few things to vent about:

People who are judging Jason for having a son and the audicity to participate in the Bachlorette....Um single parents deserve a chance at happiness too you know. Saying that he shouldn't have brought his son into it ? well let's look at that. If Jason had not allowed ABC to show his son how would he have explained it when the sleuthers found out? About the same way that it was explained that Jesse explained away a gf that he had when he started the show. I'd rather someone be honest and show us who they really are, rather then sell themself like a threadbare tire off the back of a truck.

For those who think its sour grapes of Jason fans to be pissed now because it looks like she's picking Jesse, and think that we should be happy for her:
Yes everyone should be happy for her and whoever she chose. BUT, SHE is the one that was played last season, she is the one that was attacked for being plainspoken and unwilling to play games. She is the one that said that she wouldn't lead any of the guys on, and she is the one that said that if it wasn't there, she wouldn't keep Jason from his son. If she did choose Jesse, then she did play Jason, she did play games (we already know this from the mech. bull episode, but I digress) she did lead Jason on, and she should have sent him home to be with his son. I have always spoken up for her in the past, but if she did this, then I can't speak up for her again, and I won't later on when the wedding date comes and goes and she isn't married.

As for Fleiss and his minions of misreprentation: this is what they do, it's what they've done and they'll do it again if we keep watching this trainwreck that always with the exception of ONE TIME ends badly. We keep watching because we are romantic and we hope against hope that we will see a happy ending- despite knowing that Fleiss only cares about collecting money, and not about happy endings. We hope and we get powned again and again by this guy. So why watch again? I don't know about you, but I am pulling myself out of the cycle of helping Fliess make more money off my viewing time. I'm done. You can't continue to do the same thing (watch this show) and expect a different outcome, (a loving real relationship) and then be surprised (Brad, Lorenzo, Jen, et al) each time it doesn't happen.
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I'm still trying to wrap my mind around this reshoot theory and that she did pick Jason but things fell apart ATFR? Or I just totally missed the Jesse love story because it was on when I was up grabbing a diet pepsi from the fridge?
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Old 07-04-2008, 02:32 PM   #128
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Me either atem.

I don't wanna see Jason's heart crushed. If I could feel happy for Jesse & Dee in contrast I would, but since I was never shown that love story, I can't.

I also wanna send a message to the idiot aka Fleiss. Show me a love story dammit, this is a reality tv show, not Punked.

You are cracking me up!!
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Now Lellis819, I'm LMAO, yep that's just the kind of thing those folks over at ABC would do. Talk about Knee Jerk reaction, instead of allowing it to run its course and be hacked at by the idiots over on the alphabet board, they pull it so everyone over there starts going hmmmm, gotta be something in this rumor ......

For crying out loud, who hires these people??? Mickey Mouse - oops forgot Disney owns ABC doesn't it? I've got tears rolling down my face right now.
Maybe Mickey Mouse is in charge.
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If even those paid people were 'shocked' with the outcome and they hadn't even been following the show, it tells me that the finale isn't going to answer many questions. Don't you think?
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