The Aftermath

[chaslom4]

Originally Posted by valley54

There is a part of Jason I believe we are not seeing. He said the first night he spent three months twice in Greece backpacking. There is more to Jason we are not seeing.

True. I think all we really got to see was the conservative Dad side of him. Which is probably where the "Jason is boring" comes in.

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[rozzie17]

Originally Posted by drdelta

Hello everyone. Although I've read the boards for a long time, this is the first time I have posted, so hope I am posting this thought in the right place. If not, I have no doubt someone will direct me to the right thread!

Last night I was wondering why ABC would cancel the Engagement Party episode. It dawned on me that maybe DeAnna announced her engagement at the MTA to prove a point (that she was over Graham and Co.) even though ABC didn't want her to. Once the cat was out of the bag, ABC decided to pull the plug on the EP episode since the announcement had been made. Maybe there is some bad blood between DeAnna and ABC now. Any thoughts?

JMO - There are 2 possibilities:

1. There never was an engagement show planned. It was put on the schedule as a red herring.

2. There is a show planned (or finished). It was put on the schedule but when sleuthers got wind of it, everyone assumed that meant Jason was the F1 so they temporarily changed the schedule. They replaced it with a repeat of 'Where are they now' - they could just as easily change it back, couldn't they?

[chaslom4]

Originally Posted by librarylady

Really yall, Jason deserves much, much better than her and he will find "Ms Right" and maybe we can even help him along with that. Not me personally, I've been married for longer than Jason has been on this earth.
I meant email abc suggesting him as The Bachelor or you younger single gals might write him a sympathy note and send a photo of yourself along with it.

As much as I would love the privilege of seeing Jason every week on the Bachelor (and it might be the only thing that would get me to watch again), I hope he stays as far away from this show and its manipulation as he can. Run Jason, run! There are plenty of wonderful potential wives out there--you are too good for this show![/quote]

great post! thank you!

[gurlbrit]

Originally Posted by Salijo

Obviously well enough to get engaged! LOL

I don't know, its been two months since the end of filming, and Deanna did not confirm that she was engaged until the MTA which was filmed on June 24, I believe. (filming ended May 9, 2008).

[HopePhoenix]

Originally Posted by gurlbrit

casualfan you took the words right out of my mouth. The Jason we have seen is an edited version of who Jason actually is. He may or may not be who we see IRL.

Totally agree. The thing is, people are picking on Jesse for his choice of slang, for his bathroom humor or whatever else but some of those things come across much more "real life" and will require less of an adjustment than someone who has been painted as so incredibly angelic.

I'm sorry, Jason may be a VERY nice guy and a great catch, but he is nowhere near as perfect as the editing shows and the fans seem to believe. He has a 3 year old child and a broken marriage behind him. Does anyone truly believe that the ending of his marriage is solely his ex-wife's fault and he did nothing wrong at all? That is not the way it goes in most cases. I am sure that Jason has his flaws as well. A lot of people in a dating situation, especially on TV, put on the absolute best front that they can in the initial weeks then the cracks start to show. I'm sure Jason has his bad moods and quirks and selfish, insensitive moments just like everyone else does. I can definitely see some of those flaws and some things that may make him not right for her, but I will not post them here as that is not my point ATM.

In the end, it's DeAnna's choice. And whatever editing or producer tricks went on were not DeAnna's fault, Jesse's fault, Jason's fault. They all went in knowing the rules. Jason too. He even said to Twilley on screen that he knew who 3 of the F4 were, that no one had the same connection as Graham/De did, and he didn't even know IF he would get that 4th spot. That doesn't sound like someone who is so sure he's going to win it all that he has no problem opening up his home, his life, his son to the cameras only to have DeAnna rip it all up at the last minute.

He took a shot like everyone else there did. Just because he was edited as perfection and half the board wants to date him doesn't mean that he is exciting to HER, that he has that chemistry for HER, that his home situation is right for HER.

People are so mad at getting Fleissed and so they should really look at things again. WHY was Jason edited this way? To paint DeAnna and/or Jesse as the villain and cause controversy? To bring viewers and ratings? To make people talk about the show? To blame De for falling in love with the person who wasn't the one the producers may have wanted? We will never know for sure, but they are ALL victims.

Everyone who is so angry at who actually wins this thing needs to remember that all DeAnna did was to follow her heart, and Jason reassured her that he wanted to be there and take a chance regardless of the ending. It was his responsibility to decide how long to be away from Ty when he knew he very well might not win.

DeAnna deserved to choose whoever she wanted, and whoever she ended up falling in love with and whoever she felt was the best fit. And she did that. She deserves to be happy. Jesse deserves to be happy. I am sure the rest of the guys, Jason included, will be just fine.

Be mad at the editing but having a huge backlash about DeAnna choosing Jesse and refusing to accept or support their happiness BECAUSE of the editing or because she didn't choose your favorite is SO unfair. If their love story wasn't shown, as so many have said, then they were done as big of a disservice as well and deserve to have the support for THEM become a bigger thing than the outrage at TPTB who clearly had ulterior motives.

[freethinker]

Originally Posted by gurlbrit

I'm sure you are right, however, what we are seeing is an edited version. The guys in the house knew him for what six weeks? Actually the Bachelorette was shot for 5 weeks and 5 days; the last two weeks or so all the F4 were separated, so I'm guessing that these guys spent no more than 4 weeks together in total.

How well do you know anyone after 4 weeks? Just a question. Not digging at anyone. Just a simple question?

When you think about it, the guys spent a lot more total time together than DeAnna spent with any of them, so I'd say the other guys are probably in a much better position to get a feel for what a person is like.

If we can believe two people could actually know they're in love and ready to commit to a marriage after spending random amounts of time together spread out over only 5 weeks and 5 days - why couldn't guys who lived together almost constantly for 4 weeks know whether or not somebody seems like a decent guy?

[girlsmom]

Originally Posted by hopelessroman

Sounds like this honeymoon was originally planned for Jason!! LMAO wow...pathetic and ...tragic!

I would assume that the trip was planned for DeAnna Pappas, since she's GREEK. That's is why Jason talked about going there, because he knew that Dee was Greek and would enjoy it. Why should Dee and Jesse--if against all odds they ever got married--not be able to go to Greece? I think that Jason could handle it, if not he's in real trouble.

[ilovemick]

I was shocked to come to FORT yesterday and see this thread and all the posts. It has taken me forever to catch up and that is with skipping some posts. I will preface this by saying I love Graham. He is the only one I see/saw her really falling for. When he went home I really believed who ever she chose would be by default. I never saw the chemistry with Jason, although way over 50% of ya'll did. I did think if she was truly looking for someone to settle down with, marry and have children, of the two left he was her man. Her choice of Jesse is interesting, on their final date I did see there was some chemistry between them. I do not believe she is "in love" with him. I do think he is someone she can be friends with, have a lot of fun with. She is a tomboy and loves to 4-wheel, race cars and probably snow board eventually. At the end maybe she did not find her fairy tale ending, but found someone to have fun with until her real prince (Graham?) comes along again!

[natashapierre]

I think that, ironically, DeAnna may have actually compounded the perception problem with a Jesse ending by her repeated insistence on not "leading men on." When you apply that to Jason and Jesse, you can't help but think of Jason saying how terrible it was to be away from Ty and how he didn't know if he could handle it if it were for the whole six weeks. ...

So if she dumps him as the Final Two the audience is either going to have to figure that she really didn't fall for Jesse for sure until the very last minute (which could cast some doubt on the strength of her feelings there) or that she knew earlier but held onto *Jason* rather than the other guys, despite their being a child and father-child feelings involved. Neither of those possibilities makes for a really happy and satisfied-feeling ending, seems to me.

[librarylady]

Originally Posted by cherryyou

I wonder if someone has heard this interview with Robyn Kass casting director for the Bachelorette franchise. She spoke about how crazily in love DeAnna is and is busy preparing for her wedding. She said:

"It's two fantastic guys...two very different guys, different paths, both really, really good guys. All I can say is DeAnna is just gushing in love ... crazy, crazy - so happy, making wedding plans, and I think she made the right decision."

It's still the beginning stages, but wow, they really are cute together...very happy."

Here's the link for that interview:

Big Brother 10: Casting Director Robyn Kass Discusses The New Season

This could all be true, but would anyone really expect the casting director to say anything else? Spin, spin, spin!!!