The Aftermath

[freethinker]

Originally Posted by hopelessroman

I agree with what you had quote above...and several statements here. Wedding plans? Um....shouldn't she be thinking...."Let's see if we can beat the odds and make this relationship last past the six month mark"

One big reservation I've always had about DeAnna is that she seemed way too focused on getting engaged right now and having a wedding. I wonder how much thought she's put into the marriage that comes after the excitement of the engagement and wedding ceremony are all over.

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[lalou]

Originally Posted by chaslom4

If I remember correctly, in the last show, at one point Jason made the comment to the effect that he knew that he could get hurt but it was worth the risk to take the chance on being the one at the end. I think he fully understood what he was facing. Saying that, it doesn't make it any easier to watch someone get there heart broke regardless of the situation or who it is. I think maybe being on this show was a good thing for Jeremy and Jason both. Hopefully it was a healing process for both of them and they know now that they are both once again able to open there hearts to love. As far as Ty goes, he is a huge part of who Jason is. That was kind of a no win situation there. JMO

Plus, to be quite honest, don't you think that they are going to have ladies lining up to date them having seen who they are? Jeremy mentioned not having time to date with the hours of his work and Jason works and is a "single dad" part of the time. They aren't going to have to look too far for potential life partners from this point on.

I'm not going to be watching on Monday because I can't bear to see Jason get down on one knee and propose having shared that kiss (WTH was DeAnna thinking allowing either of those things to happen if she was going to say "no"). I agree that Jason knew there was a potential to get hurt, but some of the damage could have been more limited that it appears to have been. Trista at least headed Charlie off before he made a fool of himself by proposing or declaring his love for her. Was this part of an ego trip for De (see 2 guys want me even if Brad didn't) or was it just for the ratings once more? Either way I don't want to see it.

[hopelessroman]

The title for this thread....Aftermath....

Wow..it isn't "joyous celebration"

"after the final rose jubilation"

"engagement elation"

that...kinda says it all...doesn't it...how would you like the public's celebration of your engagement news to be...AFTERMATH

Actually, after the disasterous failed relationships on this show.....Ms. Froggy should indeed write a book, called AFTERMATH.....
she could interview all the failed final relationship couples and write the REAL scoop! You know? maybe now they would talk....since some's contracts have expired.

For Trist and Ryan....their book could be titled, ANOMALY

[Gothictemptress]

Originally Posted by Larel

Is that a JOKE?
Santorini, Greece is where Jason went & loved, that is truly disgusting of all places to give them a honeymoon they send them to the one place Jason mentioned on the show, ridiculous absolutely ridiculous!

Wait...She's GREEK. Portions of her family could be from Santorini, for all we know, and that to me, in itself, should be reason enough to send the happy couple there. The fact that these discussions always comes back to Jason is starting to baffle me. The fact that Jason mentioned it in his poem is secondary to the fact that she's Greek, and sending her there makes perfect sense. The Jason love is is exactly what the edit was counting on.

[annabanana2]

Originally Posted by MsFroggy

Jason is about as exciting as lukewarm dishwater so I can't blame DeAnna if she doesn't pick him. However, I don't feel sorry for him or any of them really. They all chose to whore themselves out on TV, Jason even did it to his son. He could have absolutely not signed the consent form to put his son on camera, but he did.

DeAnna has never struck me as too intelligent and I always felt she just wanted exposure and a way out of that bartending/real estate working-9-to-5 type of gig she has going. Of course, any of us could have told her that being on any number of fake reality dating shows would not enhance her credibility in Hollywood, but I doubt she would have listened. I really hope she will fade into the woodwork after the ATFR. I have no desire to see her in any capacity on my TV after the show. I got sick of her just like I got sick of Brad, Lorenzo, Andy, Travis etc. before her. I couldn't care less who she picks in the end but I find it funny that it's supposedly the joker of the bunch with the girlfriend, the sponsorship deal and the ugly mug. It's like she purposely picks the one person with whom it would be easiest to claim in a week's time that it didn't work out or the person who would be all for a fake relationship to keep the sponsors/network/whomever happy.

Besides, I agree that she wasn't even the star of the show per se. The audience of this show is mostly female and 25 shirtless men pretty much equal good entertainment right there. Their, er, "quest for love" on TV is incidental to the show, as far as I'm concerned, mainly because it's non-existent...

I think your observations are spot on. The only thing I take exception with is Jesse=ugly mug. We all have different opinions as to what constitutes good looking and tall dark and handsome doesn't usually do it for me, but that's what makes the world go round, eh? I'm more attracted to "different".

[StanleyCupCanes]

Secret said: Jesse's storyline has been that he's "rad" and full of the one-liners. He's talked about poo and farts and kicking people in the nuts. His edit is unlike any F1 I've ever seen before.

I was asking my DH about why on earth they would edit a guy who is the F1 in a romance show this way. His answer " Maybe that's the best they had to work with - they're not miracle workers." This matches up with what the guys in the house have said about Jesse, too.

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Originally Posted by Secret

I don't think the backlash will be monumentally worse specifically because he's a single father. I think it will be worse because the edit "made" us fall in love with not only Jason but also with his son. I think it will also be worse because they spent so much time focusing away from the "real" story that most of us don't feel connected with Jesse. We will feel like we watched a particular movie, then they spliced in the wrong ending.

Based on what Deanna has said in interviews, I think she sees the real story, but she was there. I don't think she's prepared for everyone to "love" the F2 so much. The Bachelor/ette tends to get a little defensive when everyone else isn't in love with their choice or is more in love with the other person (like the comments Lo made about Sadie in a few interviews when asked). I think that negative reaction has been written in neon for ABC, at this point.

I know not everyone agrees, but I have watched this show for years and I thought I knew better than to fall for the edit AGAIN. If I had to describe this season to someone, even with 2 hour episodes, it was the Graham and Jason and Deanna story, with a little Jeremy and Jesse mixed it. The edit focused more on Graham, F4 and Jason, F2, than it did on the F1. I know, they like to "hide" the story with the F1. In this case, though, it's so hidden as to be virtually non-existent, at least so far. Where is the little bread crumb trail?

Jesse's storyline has been that he's "rad" and full of the one-liners. He's talked about poo and farts and kicking people in the nuts. His edit is unlike any F1 I've ever seen before.

Contrast that with Jason. All along, we were (admittedly) manipulated to root for him over even Deanna. That he's this great guy, who got his heart broken and that his "heartbreak" really trumps Deanna being dumped by Brad. Not only did his marriage break up, but he's the sad, lonely single dad with the beautiful little boy, who still has a great outlook on life. As we were hit over the head, over and over and over again, it's "like something out of a movie." He talks about not wanting to be hurt again, but that he's willing to open up because it's worth it. Then, what happens? Like many a F2 before, he gets his heart ripped open AND he gets to propose and get rejected. That's just cruel, but that's this show...

They focus so much attention on him that everyone I know roots for Jason and call Jesse "the greasy one" or just "the snowboarder". I know that there is always some element of surprise to every season, but the fixation on the "a ha" moment will backfire again. I don't think Deanna sees it coming. I hope someone warns her.

I predict that she will be referred to as D***** at some point before too long. She will become the new SWSNBN. It's one thing for all of us to know what's going to happen, to have time to come to terms with it. I think these somewhat healing wounds will be ripped right back open tomorrow night and I don't plan on sticking around to watch. The backlash won't be pretty. I only hope the general public isn't as upset as we all were.

Wow, this post is amazingly spot on with how I feel! Thank you for posting.

Exactly, because I know just reading about Jason't heart breaking makes me dread actually seeing it. If I didn't know...it would be 10 times worse seeing it.

[chaslom4]

Originally Posted by lalou

Plus, to be quite honest, don't you think that they are going to have ladies lining up to date them having seen who they are? Jeremy mentioned not having time to date with the hours of his work and Jason works and is a "single dad" part of the time. They aren't going to have to look too far for potential life partners from this point on.

I'm not going to be watching on Monday because I can't bear to see Jason get down on one knee and propose having shared that kiss (WTH was DeAnna thinking allowing either of those things to happen if she was going to say "no"). I agree that Jason knew there was a potential to get hurt, but some of the damage could have been more limited that it appears to have been. Trista at least headed Charlie off before he made a fool of himself by proposing or declaring his love for her. Was this part of an ego trip for De (see 2 guys want me even if Brad didn't) or was it just for the ratings once more? Either way I don't want to see it.

I am hoping beyond hope that she stops him before he actually proposes. I agree that Jason isn't above anyone else getting hurt, but to let him or anyone else actually propose then reject them is crossing the line IMO. From what I have read, Jason doesn't even see it coming. I think Dee sent out to many mixed signals, when she should maybe at least have given a clue or something to give Jason a little heads up so he was maybe a little bit more prepared for what was coming. JMO

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Originally Posted by Secret

Contrast that with Jason. All along, we were (admittedly) manipulated to root for him over even Deanna. That he's this great guy, who got his heart broken and that his "heartbreak" really trumps Deanna being dumped by Brad. Not only did his marriage break up, but he's the sad, lonely single dad with the beautiful little boy, who still has a great outlook on life. As we were hit over the head, over and over and over again, it's "like something out of a movie." He talks about not wanting to be hurt again, but that he's willing to open up because it's worth it. Then, what happens? Like many a F2 before, he gets his heart ripped open AND he gets to propose and get rejected. That's just cruel, but that's this show....

That's really about it pertaining to this season. Fleiss knew he could pull the heart strings of the viewing audience. I get the impression he wants a "gotcha" ending and really couldn't care about the fate of Jason. He (Jason) just sealed himself endless dates in the "Sleepless In Seattle" column of match making so I'm not worrying too much about him.

Jason is a good guy but he is safe. DeAnna might think she wants safe but she really wants the more "bad" boy. She even admitted that Graham was like all the other guys she couldn't have. Why have safe? It's just not as fun.

[Gothictemptress]

Originally Posted by thethreej's

There is nothing wrong with lukewarm dishwater, at least you dont get burned!!!!!!!!

I'd much rather feel the pain of the burn then live in tepid water. Life is too short to play it safe all the time. A man that can bring her down a hill like that? I'd bet he's passionate about a lot of things, and they will have a very exciting life together. It may end in complete disaster, but I'd bet they have a blast along the way!