The Aftermath

[BachNoFoolMe]

Originally Posted by Specialized

A large number of viewers are "stunned" every time one of these shows airs. The editing is done in order to have a surprise ending. I have been surprised a few times in the past, but my feeling is that the "Bachelor or Bachelorette" should pick the one that is best for them. After the show, I usually can see why they made the choice that they did.
Do you really think it should be a popularity contest, and the audience gets to make the selection, instead of those who are personally involved? If so, who would you allow to choose a mate for you? Think of that for a moment...

I never said it should be a popularity contest. I'm stating a fact that the ending will be overshadowed by the letting go of 3 popular bachelors. (certaintly more popular than Jesse). It's not the viewers fault that the producers chose to edit the season to reflect the somber side of the drama that pulls on heartstrings....

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[StanleyCupCanes]

Originally Posted by Specialized

A large number of viewers are "stunned" every time one of these shows airs. The editing is done in order to have a surprise ending. I have been surprised a few times in the past, but my feeling is that the "Bachelor or Bachelorette" should pick the one that is best for them. After the show, I usually can see why they made the choice that they did.
Do you really think it should be a popularity contest, and the audience gets to make the selection, instead of those who are personally involved? If so, who would you allow to choose a mate for you? Think of that for a moment...

I don't believe anyone is saying that but this show did promote a fairy tale ending and pointed to it as coming from a certain pairing. The editors used the men, especially Jason, to build up the ratings and following. Now, those same viewers are going to get Punked. What Fleiss seemed to underestimate is that the fanbases of the men now far exceeds DeAnna's. I would say her Q score is taking a nose dive. So, when she chooses Jesse people are going to be shocked or disinterested because they were not led to believe he was her fairytale ending. TPTB know it thus the PR spin cycle that's been running.

As someone else pointed out, this is 3 disappointing endings for the average viewer. At some point, people realize the show has jumped the shark and abandon it. The irony in this situation is rich to me. Fleiss creates a ratings winner via Jason and the other men yet can't deliver the goods at the end because he presented a false story. This will hurt his next show's ratings. Everyone knows the chances of these pairings actually working out is slim, we still want to see a romance.

[girlsmom]

Originally Posted by valley54

I think this is what is great about this forum, we all have different views that we can share. But, I will say if Jesse wins, TPTB did a sucky job editing this season. They could have edited Ty out and not involved a child. THE AFTERMATH will be UGLY if she chooses Jesse.

Jason was the one responsible for showing Ty, he would have had to have signed a release. Jason is the one at fault for using Ty. I also thought Jason fans thought that it was o.k. to show Ty. How is it a bad thing to show Ty just because his daddy is not F1?

[Lisabear]

I just had a thought, and I am sorry in advance if this has been posted before. Do you remember in the HTD episode when they were showing previews for De going to meet Jason's family? Well didn't Ty say something about how he really liked DeAnna? But that never aired...fishy if you ask me...do you think that could have something to do with the finale??

[GaBB7fan]

Originally Posted by thethreej's

ABC geared the whole show towards, Graham, Jeremy, and now Jason. If they wanted us to fall in love with the final one, they should have showed us more of the love story between Jesse and DeAnna. They used Graham, Jeremy, and Jason to get ratings, because they knew the "real" love story would be deemed boring by most viewers. At this point I could care less if she picks Jesse, or the wolf man, because I think Graham, Jeremy and Jason are the three that stole the show away from DeAnna.

I feel sick that Jason is going to get hurt. I hate that a lot of DeAnna's fans have begun to question her motives. I really feel sorry for Jesse being the F1 and what seems to be a random sampling across several boards, is the least favorite of the majority of four men left standing. I can't possibly imagine how that must feel for the two of them. She was so sure that her/his fans would support them. They had an engagement pary planned which has now been put on the back burner.

Why?? Dice and Splice special at the Fleismeister's ABC kitchen. I'm pretty opened minded about these shows and if ABC had of given more camera time to Jesse even without DeAnna, so we could see who he was, I think things would be much different. The one thing that sticks out to me in the edit of Jesse is the instigator. He seemed to be the central person in most of the antics.

[SugarMagnolia]

If De is expecting to parlay her "celebrity" into something I think she's in for a huge disappointment. The best part of this show has been the bachelors. And after her making Graham feel like there's something wrong with him because he didn't fall in love with her, breaking Jeremey's heart and then being rude to him on the MTA, and now, leading Jason on only to break his heart, I never want to see her on my TV screen again. She didn't have to keep telling Jason, "Everything happens for a reason." What was that about?
So whatever in the future she's promoting, I'm not watching, and whatever she's selling, I'm not buying.

[dodie430]

Originally Posted by casualfan

I just wonder that if everyone still thought the F1 was Jason if people would be saying it's "too soon" to make wedding plans?

I can't speak for everyone, but personally I guess I felt Jason was mature enough to know what he wanted and having been married before, would have known what marriage entails - good and bad. If DeAnna had chosen Jason, I would have liked to think that she had thought long and hard about what marriage and step-parenting would be like - and weighed the seriousness of that step. So had they announced marriage plans - I guess it would have set a more serious tone than with Jesse.

I wouldn't want to see Jesse and De get married tomorrow, because from what we've been shown - he's just not ready for that. That's not to say he won't be ready in a year, or that there aren't many successful marriages between people who don't outwardly "seem" ready at the time. I think that they are young, and from Jesse's edit - they should give themselves time. There's alot to be worked out with them, more so than with Jason imo. By De's own admission she wants a family fairly quickly, and how do you move around the country [Atlanta, a few months in "Breck", summer PR engagements etc] with kids in tow?

Just my opinion on your question.

[valley54]

Originally Posted by girlsmom

Jason was the one responsible for showing Ty, he would have had to have signed a release. Jason is the one at fault for using Ty. I also thought Jason fans thought that it was o.k. to show Ty. How is it a bad thing to show Ty just because his daddy is not F1?

What I am saying is, the show was done taping before it started airing, they knew who F1 was. Jason had nothing to do with the editing. TPTB had to have seen a backlash coming if they edited a child in and the father gets hurt.

[StanleyCupCanes]

Originally Posted by girlsmom

Jason was the one responsible for showing Ty, he would have had to have signed a release. Jason is the one at fault for using Ty. I also thought Jason fans thought that it was o.k. to show Ty. How is it a bad thing to show Ty just because his daddy is not F1?

Ty is a part of Jason's life and when we saw them together we saw how much a part. I think it could have been downplayed in the editing. I believe he had to be shown on the HTD but he was also used in outtakes and the PI of the child saying he likes DeAnna, etc that didn't need to be shown. Fleiss leaves in numerous references to him from DeAnna. Fleiss, not Jason, is the person airing the footage and does so to pull on the heartstrings. He's the one setting DeAnna up to look bad in the end. It may not be fair but that's what's coming her way.

[casualfan]

Originally Posted by dodie430

I can't speak for everyone, but personally I guess I felt Jason was mature enough to know what he wanted and having been married before, would have known what marriage entails - good and bad. If DeAnna had chosen Jason, I would have liked to think that she had thought long and hard about what marriage and step-parenting would be like - and weighed the seriousness of that step. So had they announced marriage plans - I guess it would have set a more serious tone than with Jesse.

I wouldn't want to see Jesse and De get married tomorrow, because from what we've been shown - he's just not ready for that. That's not to say he won't be ready in a year, or that there aren't many successful marriages between people who don't outwardly "seem" ready at the time. I think that they are young, and from Jesse's edit - they should give themselves time. There's alot to be worked out with them, more so than with Jason imo. By De's own admission she wants a family fairly quickly, and how do you move around the country [Atlanta, a few months in "Breck", summer PR engagements etc] with kids in tow?

Just my opinion on your question.

Thanks for responding so honestly Dodie I understand your disappointment that Jason was kind of sold to us as the new American fairytale and yes, at 31 and divorced with a child he probably has a serious outlook on marriage and a realistic view of what it takes to make a marriage work. He'll marry his soulmate someday and will bring that fairy tale to some other lucky lady.

The one thing I would point out with Jesse's edit is that yes, he is shown to be a professional snowboarder who lives the life of one. But he's also the only one of Jason or Jesse that has discussed marriage with DeAnna. They are young, they are both at the same point in life and they seem to have great families that will hopefully be good role models on how to makea marriage work and last. If they do make a go of it then they will obviously have to have more serious discussions about where to live, etc.