Part 4: Spoilers & Screencap Analysis ONLY *SPOILERS* Bachelorette 4 - DeAnna

[HopePhoenix]

My take of Jesse's demeanor was that of someone who is scared ... fearful that the outcome will not be as hoped. This 'look' is consistent with the one shown of him inside the limo ... looking out while holding and twirling the ring absentmindedly. The one showing him hugging DeAnna and immediately turning his head sideways also validates the mood he was in prior this meeting. For me that look simply shows that he was not sure of the outcome and was afraid.

If you pull the pictures of the 'departed' you would see that they share a 'distinct' look with Jason's _ that 'wounded look'! I guess this conclusion will not be validated until that moment when that particular scene (Jason inside the Limo) is played. But I am 100% sure that at that particular moment when that shot was taken, Jason was dealing with the hurt ... He was in shock ...in disbelief ... and trying to deal with it, unfortunately for him, he had to go through the motions with those intrusive cameras intently recording his grief.

I agree with your take on Jesse. It's consistent with his demeanor overall during the season. He told his dad he was afraid of putting it out there since he might not get chosen. He expressed his fear to DeAnna about his feelings growing while someone getting cut at each rose ceremony. So I would imagine that on his way to the FRC and knowing you're either going to walk out engaged or never see her again (as Jeremy heartbreakingly said when he mentioned never again getting to hold her hand), that fear would be at the highest.

As for Jason, do we know for sure that one of the SC of the guys in the limo is on the way to the FRC and one is going from the FRC? As in, if Jesse's is on the way does that mean that by default Jason's is on the way out, or could they both be the somber and worried looks of someone going towards the FRC not knowing the outcome?

[TVJunkie1963]

momma... no worries... I know I read the posts without regard to who is posting because (a) I simply do not have a good enough memory to attach a particular post to a human when I can't see or hear that human speak... (b) there are far too many posts to keep track of who said what... So although you have a kind track record, I am not sure that everyone "knows" you (or me for that matter) so don't take it personally. Also, where I may have been aware of the recent Urban Slang, I am usually way behind and have to ask my kids what does that mean??? So I am sure it is an easy mistake...

momma..I agree with Bonbon. You sound like me - and it bothers me greatly when I think I've unintentionally offended someone. Let it go and don't worry about it anymore.

Bonbon - talking about Urban Slang - you should have seen my face the first time my teen-aged niece and nephew (14 and 15 yrs old) told me that their grandpa was "da bomb."

I nearly had a stroke because I thought I had two little terrorists on my hands.

Then they explained what it meant, and it just got worse from there, because I asked them if I, their adoring aunt, was da bomb...and THEY TOLD ME NO! Just PaPaw. WTF?


Little ingrates.

[Alanita]

Unfortunalty I just found this site and I wish I had found it weeks ago!

Alls I can say is JESSIE IS SEXY, HOT and I now have a new screen saver. He is funny and sweet - I only wish I was 10 years younger and single. I hope De picks him.

[FumaLover]

Unfortunalty I just found this site and I wish I had found it weeks ago!

Alls I can say is JESSIE IS SEXY, HOT and I now have a new screen saver. He is funny and sweet - I only wish I was 10 years younger and single. I hope De picks him.

to the FORT Alanita!

[Bonbonlover]

LOL...TVJunkie!!

I got a call home from my son's teacher because he wrote a paragraph which included a line about "getting together with all the homies". She was appalled and wondered where this child would get terms which were so derogatory towards gays. After doing a little questioning myself, I told her that it was actually a term of endearment for friends and family with whom you shared bonding experiences at home or in your hood.

[MrsGCG]

I would add also the huge smiles between De and Jason. How can you have a huge smile on her face when you know that the guy is going to propose and you are going to hurt him.

However, we saw a smaller smile on De's face when she greet Jesse.

As much as I want it to be Jason, this is what I saw. JESSE was the one that went in for the kiss on the cheek, not the lips. DeAnna seemed a little thrown off to me cause she looked back at him for a second. He I feel is just being cautious.

Then, when Jason and her shared a big hug and a kiss, he was just starting to get into it when she seemed to pull away from him. She ended it by backing away.

Did anyone else see this?

[Zinnia]

Several people on FORT have sources that were at the ATFR that say she chose Jesse. These posters are all long time FORTers and claim to have heard about this separately. The beginning of the "I guess a paid audience isn't the answer" thread they have some of the explanation from Cape. I guess she is a die hard Jason fan, but several independent sources told her that Jesse is F1.

On the other hand, there was some very good sleuthing done in the days after the last episode that had clues that pointed to Jason as F1. Here are some of those clues:

1. Looks like Jesse in rejection limo
2. Jesse is in two limos. We see him getting out of one limo with CH and then we see the shot of him with the ring inside a limo. The back window of this limo is different from the limo he got of in the shot with CH.
3. Jesse looks sad and dejected while twirling the ring in the limo. Who would do that before a proposal?
4. Deanna kisses Jason on the lips and Jesse on the cheek at FRC.
5. Deanna's hair is more wind blown when she sees Jason but is nicely fixed and when greeting Jesse. Her hair also looks neater when she is putting F2 in rejection limo. This would signify that Jason came later and that she put Jesse in the limo.
6. Some believe that the picture of Jason and Deanna kissing is after the proposal and TPTB photoshopped out the engagement ring and the rose on Jason's lapel.
7. Jason's clothes match Deanna's dress. (I'm not sold on this theory, but it is out there)

Okay, these are the ones I remember. Hope this helps to synthesize things. Others can add on....

Thanks for enumerating that.

Now I ask the Jesse supporters to do the same. Why Jesse?

Are the secret "sources" from the ATFR the only reasons? How is that sleuthing? How can you verify that?

On one of the press releases it says: THE HAPPILY ENGAGED COUPLE WILL TRACE THEIR LOVE STORY, AND DeANNA MUST ANSWER FOR HER ACTIONS WITH THE FINAL TWO MEN, ON "THE BACHELORETTE: AFTER THE FINAL ROSE,"

Hmmmm. Why would she have to answer to the both of them??

They always have both on, when they do an AFTR.

[Spence]

funny I didn't even think of drugs. I guess I missed that whole era when drugs were called "Dope" ... but I have heard of dope as describing something as really good. Man that car is dope!

I remember the drugs being called dope, my parents still say it but I hear the kids around hear saying dope when something is good. I've been told I'm really doping my house. The first time they said it I can only imagine the look I had on my face.

[amy4bama]

As much as I want it to be Jason, this is what I saw. JESSE was the one that went in for the kiss on the cheek, not the lips. DeAnna seemed a little thrown off to me cause she looked back at him for a second. He I feel is just being cautious.

Then, when Jason and her shared a big hug and a kiss, he was just starting to get into it when she seemed to pull away from him. She ended it by backing away.

Did anyone else see this?

I think with what we have to work with you certainly make good points. Tonight we'll see if what little we've been given really shows us the big picture.

[cherryyou]

I agree with your take on Jesse. It's consistent with his demeanor overall during the season. He told his dad he was afraid of putting it out there since he might not get chosen. He expressed his fear to DeAnna about his feelings growing while someone getting cut at each rose ceremony. So I would imagine that on his way to the FRC and knowing you're either going to walk out engaged or never see her again (as Jeremy heartbreakingly said when he mentioned never again getting to hold her hand), that fear would be at the highest.

As for Jason, do we know for sure that one of the SC of the guys in the limo is on the way to the FRC and one is going from the FRC? As in, if Jesse's is on the way does that mean that by default Jason's is on the way out, or could they both be the somber and worried looks of someone going towards the FRC not knowing the outcome?

One thing we can be sure of _ DeAnna in that limo shot suggests that she is saying goodbye to either Jason or Jesse. I am 100% sure of that _ she did that when she sent home Jeremy. She is apt to do the same with Jason (if he is F2) because she has bonded with him at a certain level _ a lot closer than the other 'departed' (LOL). To assume that she was there to greet someone would be to dismiss that scene of her standing in the RC podium and we know that we were shown pictures of both being greeted by her from that area. Also, Jesse is likely to be F1 based on that picture showing him presenting her the ring. Look at that picture again ... notice how her free hand is slightly extended ... as if she is expecting something she is hoping to happen. And the other picture showing both of them holding hands _ her face clearly beaming ... head up - that's the face of someone who is happy _ feeling giddy! Jesse is definitely the F1!!!